waytogo28 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 No young rider can be "too good" or "have too high an average" to be a reserve in the British Final! Ridiculous? Can't be true - can it? Why are we never told the truth? I heard it said but it must be Fake News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 It was said in the BT coverage apparently I don't know if it said who had stopped him, but they did state it was due to being of too higher standard! If you then think this logic through yet again it doesn't make sense - by stating rider is too good it implies that the powers don't want a rider who is likely to take points off the main riders - why not? Yesterday Howarth got excluded, would he have beaten one of the other three - by putting a novice in is that unfair to the other 12 riders? Also it means you are going to have an uncompetitive rider (although Smith looked good) so depriving the fans of entertainment (remember us the ones who pay!!!). You could argue meeting reserves should be the next highest qualifiers from semi finals - but if rest of field are worried about facing Bewley then don't deserve to be in the field in the first place!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 It was said in the BT coverage apparently It was Kelv said it during commentary last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thought was a dam good meeting from what I saw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thought was a dam good meeting from what I saw... From what you saw. What was you doing, hiding.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamfj Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) From what you saw. What was you doing, hiding.... Go and pollute another thread Edited June 20, 2017 by williamfj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thought was a dam good meeting from what I saw... so did i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Imagine if eight riders are seeded next year, how many arguments will there be on here about who's in and who's not! Two semi-finals featuring the top 32 riders gives almost all the decent Brits a chance of reaching the British Final - so WHY CHANGE IT? Robert Lambert had his chance this season, but failed to qualify - no need to mess around with changing the rules of fair competition, or introduce seedings or wildcards They ALL (32) have the same chance Whats wrong with simply taking the top 16 Brits in the Premiership averages? It should then ensure the best line-up (as long as they all turn-up on time ofc ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN 333 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Noticed in the programme notes penned by Buster Chapman, he did clearly indicate that next year Wildcards could be discussed by the BSPA in an attempt to avoid a similar situation from happening again, he went on to mention that only seven riders might qualify from the semi's, so I do believe that the BSPA have had a kick up the backside by this Robert Lambert situation, remember Robert is a Kings Lynn rider, and Buster is the Kings Lynn promoter, must have really cheesed Buster off when Robert was not there last night, but congrats to Cookie on his win, he did deserve it on the night, star of the night in my eyes was Ben Barker, that win in heat one was one of the best rides I've seen this year, do not know what happened to his bike on the wind down lap, but that's speedway, if its true about Dan Bewley, then Belle Vue should be foaming at the mouth and making their feelings known, it was a good meeting, excellent weather, a good race track was provided to race on, role on next year, if there was one minor discreation on the night for me, it was the presentation of the trophies, how on earth that announcer at Belle Vue got his job I do not know, how can you start calling the riders onto the podium like he did with Steve Worrall and Rory Schlein on the infield, when Cookie was still in the pits doing the TV interview with BT Sports, mind boggling, get rid of that presenter for god's sake, totally embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 so did i So was you hiding to with RPNYC. Ive already said it was a good meeting, clearly you only read what you want to read. And the best rider on the night won it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 how can you start calling the riders onto the podium like he did with Steve Worrall and Rory Schlein on the infield, when Cookie was still in the pits doing the TV interview with BT Sports, mind boggling, get rid of that presenter for god's sake, totally embarrassing. How would he know where the riders were? Surely the paying public deserve priority for trophy presentations than TV? Don't think you can blame the announcer for that. Whats wrong with simply taking the top 16 Brits in the Premiership averages? It should then ensure the best line-up (as long as they all turn-up on time ofc ) a) Not all British riders race in the UK. Doesn't offer up and coming talent outside the top flight from trying to qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Shame on the BSPA re stopping Dan Bewley from riding. BSPA considering wild cards for the British Final next year..... would this have happened if it was not for Lambert missing out? The BSPA will never give up their power to run the Sport and therefore will always be rules for the few and not all. I have been dismayed at the way the sport is run for a long time.... nothing changes !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 This was absolutely ludicrous. Chapman should hang his head in shame. How can Bewley (who was not even considered good enough to be put into the 32 for the British semi-finals) be "too good" to be a track reserve for the British Final? (incidentally Jack Parkinson-Blackburn - highest NL average, even above Bewley - was OK to be track reserve for the British semi-final). In any case, surely the point of having a track reserve is to replace an excluded/withdrawn rider and ensure that the remaining 3 riders are kept honest and not gifted a point without trying? If you only want a track reserve to be miles away at the back out of contention, then there's no point in having him at all. Is Chapman really telling us that he was worried that an 18-year-old with 1 season's experience, might score a point in the British Final and this would embarrass the sport? Yet he doesn't see that putting an Australian in the BRITISH Final and having him stood on the rostrum actually is embarrassing the sport in Britain?? The lunatics are running the asylum. Honestly was Bewley denied his chance because of his average surely not ? these people who are running the sport are a joke what annoys me is they are never accountable for there failings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Honestly was Bewley denied his chance because of his average surely not ? these people who are running the sport are a joke what annoys me is they are never accountable for there failings. Problem is sid the rest of the promoters will not stand up to them and say, NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 From what you saw. What was you doing, hiding.... Are you saying it wasnt a good meeting??? If so, I cant agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm a big Lambert fan..but no way should he have been in the meeting last night.. Imagine if a rider doesn't fancy a certain track so decides he will " break down " on the way...save the hassle of actually riding ..I'll get a wildcard anyway because I'm dead good !...it would make a mockery of qualifiers..let alone be totally unfair on those who rode and we're next in line.. I would have made a better meeting if Lambert had been there for sure..but it was 100% correct that he wasn't in this instance. TBH .I cant imagine Bewley .really being that bothered . Him along with the rest of British speedway know full well he will be IN the British final next year , and at the rate he's progressing In with a good chance of winning it I'll put money on him not winning it next year ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 It was Kelv said it during commentary last night SPOKE to Kelvin this afternoon and he didn't know anything about Chapman stopping Bewley from riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I AM quite aware of that, under exceptional circumstances and there were opportunities to put him in. If there is a will there is a way. Lost opportunity to help push forward the career of a bright young talent. Just an opinion. He won't get much change on the continent if he can't be arsed to get himself there on time, same as everybody else. Just as well he gets a sense of responsibility now. If you make special arrangements for Lambert then the same arrangement would have to be afforded to Cookeif he failed to qualify, then if Cooke and Lambert can be shoe horned in, why not the Worrals or Lawson. How by any measure can you waive the rules for Lambert and nobody else ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 'Can't be arsed' is harsh. It's on the interests of everyone that the field is as strong as possible, so there should be some kind of safety net for a break down, injury, engine trouble etc. Either that or seed the top half a dozen like they do in the U21's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 SPOKE to Kelvin this afternoon and he didn't know anything about Chapman stopping Bewley from riding. He quite litetally said he had been stopped because he was to good! Just watched it again aswell to make sure i wasnt going mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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