Gavan Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Because he's clearly our best hope for future honours, while an Australian gets a place. Which I think is ridiculous, whichever license he happens to have. I get that but he didnt ride in the semi finals so even if Schlein wasnt in it then still it shouldnt be Lambert. A certain Tai Woffinden asked to be seeded in 2016 as the semi finals were at the same time as gp's and he was refused. Same rules should apply here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Tickets are now on sale over on bellevueaces.co My tickets are purchased now. Can't wait. Just need robert lambert to be sneaked in. He needs to be in British final whatever you think Why? Had the chance to qualify, and didn't Only his fault he wasn't there in time to ride Those who did, and rode and qualified, deserve to be in the final, without any intruders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Look out Lambert ( R ) the knives are out for you now! Any young British rider who looks set to "make it" gets plenty of detractors early doors, as they say. Par for the course. As for Schlein if he is in, ( for the reason he has been included) then he should ride for GB in the World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN 333 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Tickets are now on sale over on bellevueaces.co My tickets are purchased now. Can't wait. Just need robert lambert to be sneaked in. He needs to be in British final whatever you think Robert Lambert , could be sneaked in by the retirement of Josh Auty now, do you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 For those who keep banging on about it, Rory Schlein is a British citizen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Look out Lambert ( R ) the knives are out for you now! Any young British rider who looks set to "make it" gets plenty of detractors early doors, as they say. Par for the course. As for Schlein if he is in, ( for the reason he has been included) then he should ride for GB in the World Cup. From the remarks said on here - I cant agree with you. IMO if Robert had got to the meeting and had a couple engine failures then maybe he could have been slotted in but as it was he missed a meeting, unfortunate as that is, its the way it goes. I cant say anybody is against RL as a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 I get that but he didnt ride in the semi finals so even if Schlein wasnt in it then still it shouldnt be Lambert. A certain Tai Woffinden asked to be seeded in 2016 as the semi finals were at the same time as gp's and he was refused. Same rules should apply here The same rule you stated on numerous occasions was wrong. Now a different rider is the subject the rule should apply. You either agree with the rule or you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 The same rule you stated on numerous occasions was wrong. Now a different rider is the subject the rule should apply. You either agree with the rule or you don't. Im confused by what you mean Robert Lambert didnt ride in the semi finals Tai Woffinden (in 2016) didnt ride in the semi finals Tai Woffinden asked to be seeded...he wasnt allowed If Robert Lambert is seeded then again it shouldnt be allowed. What rule am i supposed to be agreeing with here? Im stating that if you dont ride in the semi finals, no matter what the reason, then you shouldnt be seeded. Look out Lambert ( R ) the knives are out for you now! Any young British rider who looks set to "make it" gets plenty of detractors early doors, as they say. Par for the course. As for Schlein if he is in, ( for the reason he has been included) then he should ride for GB in the World Cup. What is that all about? Nobody has the knives out for Lambert!! Its a shame he isnt in the final but he didnt qualify simple as. Carl Wilkinson rode in the semi and therefore as next qualifier he should move into the meeting instead of Auty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 For those who keep banging on about it, Rory Schlein is a British citizen As he is now a British citizen has he been asked to ride for GB in the World Cup or is it as reported that he has refused to ride for GB? You surely can't cherry pick the benefits of British citizenship? Or is it just convenient to be British for the licence / visa and be an Aussie in your heart? Confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 As he is now a British citizen has he been asked to ride for GB in the World Cup or is it as reported that he has refused to ride for GB? You surely can't cherry pick the benefits of British citizenship? Or is it just convenient to be British for the licence / visa and be an Aussie in your heart? Confusing. Rory is on record as saying he has no intention of riding for GB in the World Cup, its his right and choice to decide that. Other British riders have made that decision in the past and no doubt will do so again. It is what it is, but not making himself available to ride in the WTC does smack of convenience to me i must admit.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtree123 Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 I did say I wouldn't be returning to Bellvue but I am making an exception for this one. Truly looking forward to it. All who are competing have earned their place and deserve to be racing. While I am sorry to say R Lambert did not. If he is (sneaked in) it just makes a mockery of qualifying Yes I am aware his vehicle broke down, but it did not stop him riding abroad the next day It kind of makes one think " oh don't need to do qualifying I will get a place anyway ". And to add, While I think Rory is one my favourites he should not have been allowed in the Qualifying round British racers are NOT allowed in any Australian championships, the same should be applied here. He did not ride abroad the next day, he was riding at Wolves for Kings Lynn As much as I would like to see him in the British Final, I don't think he should be allowed, As for Rory good on him and I hope he wins it......But my money is on cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 I'd love to see Robert added to the line up, he had vehicle problems, he certainly did not intend to miss the meeting. He's a great racer and whether it's right or not, every fan wants to watch him, he would be a strong contender for the title. I admire Rory without a doubt, but hell I don't want him to win this meeting ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I'd love to see Robert added to the line up, he had vehicle problems, he certainly did not intend to miss the meeting. He's a great racer and whether it's right or not, every fan wants to watch him, he would be a strong contender for the title. ... Two things: He should have been professional enough to ensure that he could arrive in time for the meeting, even if something untoward occurred. Over the years I've seen the top men arriving mid-afternoon for an evening meeting - young Mr Lambert should learn a lesson from this. By every fan, who do you mean? Every speedway fan, or every Lambert fan? I think there's a difference there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Two things: He should have been professional enough to ensure that he could arrive in time for the meeting, even if something untoward occurred. Over the years I've seen the top men arriving mid-afternoon for an evening meeting - young Mr Lambert should learn a lesson from this. By every fan, who do you mean? Every speedway fan, or every Lambert fan? I think there's a difference there! I for one would love to see Lambert in the meeting, im sure every speedway fan does to. However the fact remains he hasnt qualified, irrelevant of the circumstances. Therefore he shouldnt get seeded 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Rory is on record as saying he has no intention of riding for GB in the World Cup, its his right and choice to decide that. Other British riders have made that decision in the past and no doubt will do so again. It is what it is, but not making himself available to ride in the WTC does smack of convenience to me i must admit.. If he has no plans to ride for teamgb, and absolutely no way should Rosco even consider him, then no way should he even be considered for the wild card if he wins the British Final. Hopefully Rosco would have told him this already so that Schlein won't get upset. British places for British riders only. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I guess it depends if Rory has totally switched to GB. If so then I don't see why he shouldn't be in the meeting and be available for TeamGB. If he is still considering himself an Aussie and riding internationally as an Australian then I don't think he should. Rory is on record as saying he has no intention of riding for GB in the World Cup, its his right and choice to decide that. Other British riders have made that decision in the past and no doubt will do so again. It is what it is, but not making himself available to ride in the WTC does smack of convenience to me i must admit.. Is that because he is still available for Australia or because he just doesn't want to ride for anyone internationally? He may have just decided to settle in the UK and ride here domestically. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I guess it depends if Rory has totally switched to GB. If so then I don't see why he shouldn't be in the meeting and be available for TeamGB. If he is still considering himself an Aussie and riding internationally as an Australian then I don't think he should. Is that because he is still available for Australia or because he just doesn't want to ride for anyone internationally? He may have just decided to settle in the UK and ride here domestically. I don't know. He has stated on record that he is very likely to reside in Australia when he retires, so his British passport seems to be convenient for him at the moment. If he wins the British Final and takes the Cardiff wildcard, i would imagine this forum will go into meltdown, and rightly so imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 He's said he doesn't want to ride for Team GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I just don't get why he wants to ride in it, what's he going to get out of it except moans from Brits if he does do well or even wins it. Seems no point to me even if he got to Cardiff. It's not as if he's starting out in his career and riding could help his career move forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) the BSPA website says....“I guess there's several factors to motivate the riders - the national title itself, World Cup places on the line and of course the wildcard slot at Cardiff. Doesn't actually say the winner of the meeting takes the wildcard. Maybe they should just create a new (unofficial) rule......best finishing rider excluding Rory takes the wildcard. Edited May 30, 2017 by eric i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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