STEPHEN 333 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Could be a close match, I'm going for a narrow Home win, Doyle will be up there in the big points for Swindon, All lot depends on if Max Fricke is riding, due in Terenzano for the Under 21's the following day, also Adam Ellis could be missing for Swindon, with the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Will see how we go on thurs and find out which riders we will have on friday as Berwick and Lakeside are riding. I would think our new reserve Dany will be at Berwick but not sure who Zach will be riding for. Edited May 17, 2017 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Will see how we go on thurs and find out which riders we will have on friday as Berwick and Lakeside are riding. I would think our new reserve Dany will be at Berwick but not sure who Zach will be riding for. Zach would be riding for Swindon as NL has no priority 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 It seems Steve Worrall is riding for Newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 It seems Steve Worrall is riding for Newcastle. Surely not as he's a Belle Vue asset?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I could be wrong here but technically Stevie Worrall is an asset of George Carswell and George has no input now at Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Give Richie a call, never know he might do it for a large fee..........if you grovel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I could be wrong here but technically Stevie Worrall is an asset of George Carswell and George has no input now at Belle Vue. He'll be on Belle Vue's retained list unless he's been sold.....so should be riding for Belle Vue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Could be a close match, I'm going for a narrow Home win, Doyle will be up there in the big points for Swindon, All lot depends on if Max Fricke is riding, due in Terenzano for the Under 21's the following day, also Adam Ellis could be missing for Swindon, with the same reason. Max is flying out of Manchester on Saturday morning . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 but presumably his best engines will already be on there way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Belle Vue have already won at Swindon, but the Robins are in a rich vein of form, and were the first team to win at the new stadium last year, even without Doyley. Will be close I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 but presumably his best engines will already be on there way. He will be using his Rybnik Polish kit in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 I could be wrong here but technically Stevie Worrall is an asset of George Carswell and George has no input now at Belle Vue. You are wrong. Clubs hold riders' registrations not individuals. (Individuals haven't been able to hold riders' registrations since the late 70s/ early 80s when it was rumoured that John Davis was an asset of John Davis). Steve Worrall is registered on the Belle Vue retained list, so should ride for Belle Vue (But don't underestimate the power of the BSPA to get their own rules wrong and insist he rides for Newcastle instead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 TBH with little or no home track advantage any team can fancy their chances at the NSS if they go for it. Should be another cracker. Any Swindon fans still undecided about supporting their team don't make the same mistake as the rebels fans and get up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 You are wrong. Clubs hold riders' registrations not individuals. (Individuals haven't been able to hold riders' registrations since the late 70s/ early 80s when it was rumoured that John Davis was an asset of John Davis). Steve Worrall is registered on the Belle Vue retained list, so should ride for Belle Vue (But don't underestimate the power of the BSPA to get their own rules wrong and insist he rides for Newcastle instead) Interestingly the ReadyPower owner "owned" the Peterborough assets when he teamed up with Poole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Interestingly the ReadyPower owner "owned" the Peterborough assets when he teamed up with Poole! And I am sure that other individuals in the past have owned certain riders contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Interestingly the ReadyPower owner "owned" the Peterborough assets when he teamed up with Poole!D Don't we still own all Peterborough assets?? They were transferred to Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Don't we still own all Peterborough assets?? They were transferred to Poole not sure if that is correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 He'll be on Belle Vue's retained list unless he's been sold.....so should be riding for Belle Vue He was a Belle Vue asset last season but when last year's promotion had their license annulled then ALL Belle Vue rider Assets transfer to the BSPA according to the regulations. Therefore when he signed for Newcastle he was a BSPA asset, NOT a Belle Vue asset. I don't know whether your current promotion have aquired the Belle Vue assets back or not, but even if they have the regulations state subsequent transfers within the current season period have no bearing on priority. The criteria for priority states that owning promotion come 1st (in this case BSPA) so that doesn't count, Last year's team/ promotion 2nd. He rode for Newcastle last year, and, yes while he did ride for Belle Vue, it was not with the current promotion company. Therefore Newcastle get priority this season. You are wrong. Clubs hold riders' registrations not individuals. (Individuals haven't been able to hold riders' registrations since the late 70s/ early 80s when it was rumoured that John Davis was an asset of John Davis). Steve Worrall is registered on the Belle Vue retained list, so should ride for Belle Vue (But don't underestimate the power of the BSPA to get their own rules wrong and insist he rides for Newcastle instead) Rider assets are owned by "promoting company's". A few year's ago the Sheffield promotion bought a whole load of rider assets from the BSPA following the folding of a club ( I can't for the life of me remember who it was), but they consequently had a huge asset base as a result. Most of them have probably retired now tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 He was a Belle Vue asset last season but when last year's promotion had their license annulled then ALL Belle Vue rider Assets transfer to the BSPA according to the regulations. Therefore when he signed for Newcastle he was a BSPA asset, NOT a Belle Vue asset. I don't know whether your current promotion have aquired the Belle Vue assets back or not, but even if they have the regulations state subsequent transfers within the current season period have no bearing on priority. The criteria for priority states that owning promotion come 1st (in this case BSPA) so that doesn't count, Last year's team/ promotion 2nd. He rode for Newcastle last year, and, yes while he did ride for Belle Vue, it was not with the current promotion company. Therefore Newcastle get priority this season. Rider assets are owned by "promoting company's". A few year's ago the Sheffield promotion bought a whole load of rider assets from the BSPA following the folding of a club ( I can't for the life of me remember who it was), but they consequently had a huge asset base as a result. Most of them have probably retired now tho. I remember the Sheffield guy who had a lot of assets but his name escapes me .Malcolm Wright?im sure Sheffield forum members could answer though.Thought David Walsh was one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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