Gresham Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 I've always thought this but it doesn't seem to be too important for some fans judging by replies I've had in the past. Does to me though and it used to irritate me at Coventry when certain riders used to win a race and then go straight back to the pits. Money earned and that's it ~ no interaction with the fans at all. Well, sorry but it's all part of the match to me and I'd like to feel they are pleased to have won the race for their team and appreciate the fans. At least at Leicester the winning rider gets a flag shoved into his hand and does a victory lap so it all adds to the 'feel good' factor. Agreed...and although the cynical amongst us may look through it, as when a footballer kisses the badge after scoring, it does however make for a better atmosphere. I can only judge this from what I witness when a rider makes the effort. The cynic in me thought last night...'is this something Lawson has learnt at Glasgow, or does he actually mean it.' Either way...it worked. Tbh...at Somerset, although it has a naturally 'respectful' crowd, when the racing is good, it creates a natural reaction of jubilance and applause. When trying to create 'war cries' etc, it often ends up on deaf ears and no participation. The action on the track creates the atmosphere. Rider participation with the crowd also helps. I did have to laugh though last night...the 'DJ' was playing some rather good Indie Rock music, that leant itself well to the racing...Stereophonics, Kings of Leon...that type of thing. An old Plymouth Devils fan was complaining the whole time about the music. Then the 'DJ' did a Simon Bates moment, and read out a 'love request' to the music of 'Our Tune'...soothing, calming and Romantic to say the least...his exclamation...'that's more like it'...you can't win lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 'Drink up thy zider, drink up thy zider, For tonight we'll merry be....(merry be) We're going down to Wimborne, to turn the Pirates over And there's still more Zider in the jar'... ;-) 'Hello hello...we are the Rebels boys, Hello hello...we are the Rebels boys, And if you are a Pirates fan, surrender or you die, We all follow the Rebels'... 'Yer sister is yer mother, Yer uncle is yer brother, You only s*ag each other, The Pirates family'... 'Flying high up in the sky, We'll keep the rebs flag flying high, Cider heads until we die, We'll keep the rebs flag flying high'... 'We all follow the Rebels, Over land and sea, (and Pirates), We all follow the Rebels, Onto victory.... (repeated) 'My Ol man, said be a Pirates fan...I said '**** off, B*****X...youre a........ ' hahahaha ;-) Can just hear it now from the banks of the Oaktree lol In all seriousness though, it does need a little more input from the riders as well as the fans imo. I noticed last night, Richard Lawson fist pumping to the Somerset fans after his great rides. Took a lap after the race doing it...such a simple gesture, but it led to applause, increased the atmosphere and led to a better 'feeling' amongst the crowd. A simple gesture, that made a difference imo. Is that what the Brizzle City fans sing to the Rovers Pirates? If I had the wings of a Robin if I had the Arse of a crow i'd fly over Poole/Oxford/Bristol/Burnham-on-Sea tomorrow and poo on the buses below. We hate Woverhampton we hate Belle Vue too and Leicester we hate Poole Pirates but Swindon we love you. We all live in a Rosco wonderland...repeated 20 times while leaping around wildly waving a programme board and flask over your head. We are the Robins and we are the best we are the Robins so feck all the rest, feck em all feck em all Poole Pirates Belle Vue and Wolves. Good old Swindon we're proud to say that name while we sing this song you'll win the game Doyley Doyley born is the king of Blunsdon Abbey. I'd rather be a Moonie than a Knob...(from Wiltshire rather than Dorset) Whoaoaoa Bellego whoaoaoa Bellego. Morra Morra Morra oi oi oi Rosco there's only one Rosco 2468 who do we appreciate...ROBINS. Edited May 20, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Is that what the Brizzle City fans sing to the Rovers Pirates? If I had the wings of a Robin if I had the Arse of a crow i'd fly over Poole/Oxford/Bristol/Burnham-on-Sea tomorrow and poo on the buses below. We hate Woverhampton we hate Belle Vue too and Leicester we hate Poole Pirates but Swindon we love you. We all live in a Rosco wonderland...repeated 20 times while leaping around wildly We are the Robins and we are the best we are the Robins so feck all the rest, feck em all feck em all Poole Pirates Belle Vue and Wolves. Good old Swindon we're proud to say that name while we sing this song you'll win the game Doyley Doyley born is the king of Blunsdon Abbey. Indeed they do...and a few more less 'savoury' songs. Not my thing tbh...I leave that to the section 82 lads. I sit in with the old boys in the Dolman quietly moaning about everything lol ;-) as we do... Used to like playing against Swindon. However...I'll be able to watch you next season with my second team. FGR's in the mighty League 2. Mr Cooper coming back to haunt you ;-) Now if only the electric speedway boys had thought of contacting Dale Vince and his Ecotricity empire that is FGR's, and getting a track around the outside of his new proposed Wooden Stadium near Stroud. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Indeed they do...and a few more less 'savoury' songs. Not my thing tbh...I leave that to the section 82 lads. I sit in with the old boys in the Dolman quietly moaning about everything lol ;-) as we do... Used to like playing against Swindon. However...I'll be able to watch you next season with my second team. FGR's in the mighty League 2. Mr Cooper coming back to haunt you ;-) Now if only the electric speedway boys had thought of contacting Dale Vince and his Ecotricity empire that is FGR's, and getting a track around the outside of his new proposed Wooden Stadium near Stroud. :-) I like Forest Green also, those vegans from Nailsworth, although the players and fans regularly raid Greggs in Stroud.Veggie burgers for local rivals Swindon Chelts and Newport fans next season. Bad memories of Ashton Gate, police escort for us Gooners from Temple Meads in the rain, as The Arsenal lost their 12 match unbeaten run around 1976. Worked in Bedminster for a while, full of City fans. Edited May 20, 2017 by beefy keefy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Said this many times, speedway needs to follow the road taken by darts, snooker, boxing by getting riders to have nicknames - not the boring predictable type but put a bit of thought into it. Secondly, there arn't enough villains who can get the crowd fired up and booing. It's all got far too nice. I couldn't agree more. Where are the Jack Millens and Tony Childs of today? :sad: When Wolverhampton were a good side in the mid 90s they sued to bring a lot of fans to Belle Vue. Their number and collective noise created great banter and even keener support from both sets of supporters, and the matches seemed more evenly contested out on the track. I suppose that's why the old Wolves-Cradley matches were so intense. Perhaps encouraging away support by lowering admission for away fans would be worth a try - but it isn't my money and the promoters will have to consider this. I know this could be open to abuse, but there must be away to ensure that only away fans can pass the test. But, again with me, I have a negative. You have to give the fans from both sides a reason to support their teams... and this means riders they connect with. Otherwise it's a case of showing your passions for somebody that's going to leg it for the quickest door once they have chance. Once stung and all that. Crikey!!! I know Speedway needs more Supporters - but does this not seem a bit desperate from Belle Vue? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 When Wolverhampton were a good side in the mid 90s they sued to bring a lot of fans to Belle Vue. Their number and collective noise created great banter and even keener support from both sets of supporters, and the matches seemed more evenly contested out on the track. I suppose that's why the old Wolves-Cradley matches were so intense. Perhaps encouraging away support by lowering admission for away fans would be worth a try - but it isn't my money and the promoters will have to consider this. I know this could be open to abuse, but there must be away to ensure that only away fans can pass the test. But, again with me, I have a negative. You have to give the fans from both sides a reason to support their teams... and this means riders they connect with. Otherwise it's a case of showing your passions for somebody that's going to leg it for the quickest door once they have chance. Once stung and all that. I saw fighting at Wolves Cradley, never mind chanting! The lack of atmosphere on the terraces pretty much epitomises the decline of the sport here over the years. Monmore being a classic example. I've been in the stadium when it's been raucous, yet the mood now is so tame. The play off final last season shows what can be done when a decent atmosphere is generated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 I saw fighting at Wolves Cradley, never mind chanting! The lack of atmosphere on the terraces pretty much epitomises the decline of the sport here over the years. Monmore being a classic example. I've been in the stadium when it's been raucous, yet the mood now is so tame. The play off final last season shows what can be done when a decent atmosphere is generated. You can't have Play Offs every week though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 You can't have Play Offs every week though. You certainly can't. You can't have Cardiff every week. The important things are what keeps fans entertained weekly from March through October. And we haven't got that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 What's wrong with a little polite applause in between the sips of tea from our flasks and cucumber sandwich bites? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 You certainly can't. You can't have Cardiff every week. The important things are what keeps fans entertained weekly from March through October. And we haven't got that. The season gets even shorter, April to early September, sometimes a month with no home meeting (at The Abbey). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Are we talking July beefy as I think most teams do not ride much during this month because of the Pairs, Cardiff, Fours & Team World Cup. Planning!!!! Can't Organise A Pi$$ Up In A Brewery. Then they make a new rule when no more transfers are allowed after the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Are we talking July beefy as I think most teams do not ride much during this month because of the Pairs, Cardiff, Fours & Team World Cup. Planning!!!! Can't Organise A Pi$$ Up In A Brewery. Then they make a new rule when no more transfers are allowed after the end of the month. No this is recently...Thursday night was speedway night. Not enough teams in league to justify that now, and we dont need to go down the ice hockey route where they face some teams 3 times at home! One big league of 18 teams for me. Edited May 24, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I don't mind chants, rattles etc. But Air Horns drive me mad, or used to when I went. Do you not go anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I don't mind chants, rattles etc. But Air Horns drive me mad, or used to when I went. Airhorns make for a very good atmosphere if used the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 And airhorns used in the wrong way do get up other people's noses ( and ears! ) and if used too close to other fans, are downright dangerous. Yes, the centre green presenter at KL does try to rouse a chant but by doing sections of the "crowd" it sounds so feeble. "on the back straight now" ******** Nowt. At least try "lets do a big one altogether now"! Not that I think that will sound very powerful either but.... Give us an S give us a T etc ( only five letters so it might work? It did at the end of the last century)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Surely 'Atmosphere' is generated by the racing and not superficial outside influences? It happens at many other sports too...people complain that football has become sterile and plastic in it's atmosphere as well. Loud music being played, a 'Presenter' shouting nonsense for the sake of it, and airhorns...do not make an 'atmosphere'...they just make a barrier of white noise. Also the age demograph of people at Speedway and football is a lot older now. They are less likely to chant...but they will cheer when the riding is good. In fact it's been discussed, that it's the outside influences, like music, and needless talk from a Presenter, that's killing the natural build up of a good atmosphere created by a crowd. Noise for the sake of it....is not an 'atmosphere'. You can feel tension and use all your other senses together, to enjoy a meeting. Sound and it being loud, doesn't mean it's been exciting. Just my opinion... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Surely 'Atmosphere' is generated by the racing and not superficial outside influences? It happens at many other sports too...people complain that football has become sterile and plastic in it's atmosphere as well. Loud music being played, a 'Presenter' shouting nonsense for the sake of it, and airhorns...do not make an 'atmosphere'...they just make a barrier of white noise. Also the age demograph of people at Speedway and football is a lot older now. They are less likely to chant...but they will cheer when the riding is good. In fact it's been discussed, that it's the outside influences, like music, and needless talk from a Presenter, that's killing the natural build up of a good atmosphere created by a crowd. Noise for the sake of it....is not an 'atmosphere'. You can feel tension and use all your other senses together, to enjoy a meeting. Sound and it being loud, doesn't mean it's been exciting. Just my opinion... Not in Poland, they just chant etc the whole meeting from beginning to end, would do my head in every week. They have so much pride for their teams .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Give us an S give us a T etc ( only five letters so it might work? It did at the end of the last century)! If that's as inventive as it gets maybe we really shouldn't bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Sadly. The current centre green presenter at KL is not even as inventive as that! Aha! people could record loud applause and cheering on their mobile phones and then play it back at the end of good race. At the same time as holding up their phone and waving it above their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Taken from the Shawn Mendes "There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back" [Verse 1]I wanna follow where they goI think about them and they know itI want the Stars to take control'Cause everytime that they get close, yeah [Pre-Chorus]They pull us in even if we have a guest inAnd I will shout when we finally go racin'Go racin', yeah [Chorus]Oh, I've been shakingI love it when we go crazyThey take all my inhibitionsFact, King's Lynn Stars are on the attackThey take us places and tear up others reputationsNever suffer exclusionsFact, King's Lynn Stars are on the attackKing's Lynn Stars are on the attackKing's Lynn Stars are on the attack [Verse 2]The King's Lynn Stars are never afraidThat's why the opposition's shakin'We're mostly first out the gateIf not we'll do the chasin' [Pre-Chorus]They pull us in even if we have a guest inAnd I will shout when we finally go racin'Go racin', yeah [Chorus]Oh, I've been shakingI love it when we go crazyThey take all my inhibitionsFact, King's Lynn Stars are on the attackThey take us places and tear up others reputationsNever suffer exclusionsFact, King's Lynn Stars are on the attackKing's Lynn Stars are on the attackKing's Lynn Stars are on the attack [bridge]'Cause when we win our meetings and we took it to the barI know we'd be alright, I know we would be alrightWith you there by my side as I stumble to a carI know we'd be alright, I know we would be alright'Cause when we win our meetings and we took it to the barI know we'd be alright, I know we would be alrightWith you there by my side as I stumble to a carI know we'd be alright, I know we would be alright [Chorus]Oh, I've been shakingI love it when we go crazyThey take all my inhibitionsFact, King's Lynn Stars are on the attackThey take us places and tear up others reputationsNever suffer exclusionsFact, King's Lynn Stars are on the attackKing's Lynn Stars are on the attackI feel so free when we are winnin', I say King's Lynn Stars are on the attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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