Gresham Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Not in Poland, they just chant etc the whole meeting from beginning to end, would do my head in every week. They have so much pride for their teams .... As my father used to say....'Empty vessels make most noise'. Pride or Vodka? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Do you not go anymore? No I don't as I suspect you know. Airhorns, however, would encourage me to stay away not bring me back. However, if that is the way Speedway wishes to go - good luck to it. By the way - the fact I no longer attend does not preclude me from having an opinion. If Double Points ended tomorrow I would be back. But Airhorns would only influence me against a return - they are horrible things. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 As my father used to say....'Empty vessels make most noise'. Pride or Vodka? ;-) Pride, vodka and beer definitely, plenty of drinking goes on before the walk down to their stadiums on a Sunday afternoon, seen first hand of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Pride, vodka and beer definitely, plenty of drinking goes on before the walk down to their stadiums on a Sunday afternoon, seen first hand of course. Agreed...from my travels to the likes of Poland, Slovenia, Slovakia, Hungary and other 'Eastern European' Countries, it's like you've gone back to the 70's when watching sport there. Drinking, chanting, singing, hostility. It's a proper throw back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Agreed...from my travels to the likes of Poland, Slovenia, Slovakia, Hungary and other 'Eastern European' Countries, it's like you've gone back to the 70's when watching sport there. Drinking, chanting, singing, hostility. It's a proper throw back. Just wait till they get Teletext! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just wait till they get Teletext! I know...next they'll all be coming over here on cheap flights...Oh hang on a minute lol In all seriousness though, it's that 70's thinking that allows the freedom they have. Less Rules and Regs...or if they have them, like most of Europe they choose to ignore them, or find ways around them. Common sense prevails there still it seems. Plus you don't seem to get the NIMBY syndrome like you do over here. Which I've never understood. People are so stupid. Live next to a Speedway track that's empty and quiet for the majority of the week, or next to more housing and more constant noise? No brainer imo. I always laugh at the Nimbys that complained about speedway at Eastville in Bristol. Now they have to deal with a massive Ikea in it's place lol Idiots... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Pride, vodka and beer definitely, plenty of drinking goes on before the walk down to their stadiums on a Sunday afternoon, seen first hand of course. Maybe if the social and enjoyment factors could be allowed to return to British Speedway, crowd numbers would increase here too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Not in Poland, they just chant etc the whole meeting from beginning to end, would do my head in every week. They have so much pride for their teams .... I was watching a second division meeting yesterday at rawisz , must of only been a couple of hundred there but they were chanting away for the whole meeting , looking like they were having a blast Maybe if the social and enjoyment factors could be allowed to return to British Speedway, crowd numbers would increase here too?i believe this is a huge factor missing from British speedway , it used to be such a social sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I was watching a second division meeting yesterday at rawisz , must of only been a couple of hundred there but they were chanting away for the whole meeting , looking like they were having a blast i believe this is a huge factor missing from British speedway , it used to be such a social sport It still is for the majority of us, there's just not enough of us. We don't have a drinking culture at our speedways which is pretty important for many people to be able to relax and give up their inhibitions because our meetings are on work nights on the whole and we generally do not live in walking distance of our clubs like most Poles do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Very difficult I would suggest to engender the emotional loyalty needed to passionately support 'your' team when it's very rarely all 'your' riders actually there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Very difficult I would suggest to engender the emotional loyalty needed to passionately support 'your' team when it's very rarely all 'your' riders actually there... Nonsense I'm a King's Lynn Stars fan not a Holder, Lambert, Batchelor, Porsing, Rose, Huckenbeck, Lambert fan. The 1-7 are a club collective and that's what the atmosphere should be about. Maybe consistent local lads (Robert Lambert, Lewis Rose) in the team may get their own tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Nonsense I'm a King's Lynn Stars fan not a Holder, Lambert, Batchelor, Porsing, Rose, Huckenbeck, Lambert fan. The 1-7 are a club collective and that's what the atmosphere should be about. Maybe consistent local lads (Robert Lambert, Lewis Rose) in the team may get their own tune. How often do a teams seven riders actually be in attendance? A Kings Lynn Select, Belle Vue Select, Wolverhampton Select etc etc simply cannot engender emotional loyalty.... Can anyone really get behind someone who a few weeks before rode against you and had led a defeat of your team? A 'club collective' in Speedway is often nothing more than 'a collective riding under a flag of convenience'... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 How often do a teams seven riders actually be in attendance? A Kings Lynn Select, Belle Vue Select, Wolverhampton Select etc etc simply cannot engender emotional loyalty.... Can anyone really get behind someone who a few weeks before rode against you and had led a defeat of your team? A 'club collective' in Speedway is often nothing more than 'a collective riding under a flag of convenience'... I'm a Stars fan and I will support any rider (even supported Pedersen a little OMG!) who turns out in Lynn colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 How often do a teams seven riders actually be in attendance? A Kings Lynn Select, Belle Vue Select, Wolverhampton Select etc etc simply cannot engender emotional loyalty.... Can anyone really get behind someone who a few weeks before rode against you and had led a defeat of your team? A 'club collective' in Speedway is often nothing more than 'a collective riding under a flag of convenience'... A club collective. It's about the Stars v anybody, the 1-7's irrelevant. The issue is people get to hooked up on rider's rather than support their clubs themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 https://www.facebook.com/dean.felton.39/posts/1447783815242330 This is falubas fans away at gorgow at the weekend , just wants to make you be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Each to their own. I wouldn't want to be caged in like an animal and I'd hate Speedway in the UK to be as partisan as this. I know I can stand next to visiting fans and have a nice friendly chat throughout a match so Polish style doesn't impress me one bit I'm afraid but I know there are others who would love it. Just not for me. I wouldn't go anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Each to their own. I wouldn't want to be caged in like an animal and I'd hate Speedway in the UK to be as partisan as this. I know I can stand next to visiting fans and have a nice friendly chat throughout a match so Polish style doesn't impress me one bit I'm afraid but I know there are others who would love it. Just not for me. I wouldn't go anymore. Add to that the others "of a certain generation" with their "don't wave that flag by me", "don't make a noise by me", "don't blow that whistle by me" and "don't blow that air horn by me" attitudes and you can see why watching speedway in Britain is as dull as dishwater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Add to that the others "of a certain generation" with their "don't wave that flag by me", "don't make a noise by me", "don't blow that whistle by me" and "don't blow that air horn by me" attitudes and you can see why watching speedway in Britain is as dull as dishwater.when our group at Foxhall starting making all sorts of noise I think we did literally wake a few up - one poor old dear almost dropped a stitch in her knitting too 😆 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Add to that the others "of a certain generation" with their "don't wave that flag by me", "don't make a noise by me", "don't blow that whistle by me" and "don't blow that air horn by me" attitudes and you can see why watching speedway in Britain is as dull as dishwater. Why is British Speedway 'Dull as dishwater'...just because people don't like airhorns, whistles, chanting etc, next to them? It's not just a Generation thing either. I like hearing the likes of what was shown on the video...but I'm glad they have areas for this within the stadium. Same as at football...I prefer, like I do my Speedway, to be at the best viewing area, and in an area where I can watch without outside 'interference. If people want to get pissed, shout, scream, chant, blow airhorns, whistles etc...then do it, but be respectful to others that don't enjoy that and do it in a 'designated area or where it doesn't bother other people. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Each to their own. I wouldn't want to be caged in like an animal and I'd hate Speedway in the UK to be as partisan as this. I know I can stand next to visiting fans and have a nice friendly chat throughout a match so Polish style doesn't impress me one bit I'm afraid but I know there are others who would love it. Just not for me. I wouldn't go anymore. I suspect that fans like this ( me too! ) are in the majority and if it we stopped going then it really would "all be over"! Regardless of those who want nothing but positive spin on numbers attending etc we are in danger of letting positive spin be very much like the "emperor's new clothes" i.e. naked terraces. Definitely spice it up to some extent ( but don't overdo the Demands for Chanting tonight at the Stars V Swindon by the centre green presenter ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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