Midland Red Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 So Jason crump could of raced in the British final as he could of added born in Britain. Could HAVE, robert72 - twice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 So Jason crump could have raced in the British final as he could of added born in Britain.yes as I believe unlike TAi he could have qualified for dual nationality. But he chose Australia.Not sure how you think that proves you point rear Tsi? So to repeat - on what grounds do u think tao qualified to ride as an Australian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 They have implement pretty much what Tai asked for only problem is Tai wanted it done a different way with different people. Also Tai was asked if he was available, why is he asking for an input in team mate when his selection isn't guaranteed? Are you honestly suggesting he wouldnt of been!!! Our best rider by a long way on his home track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Why? Didn't TW grasp what professionalism means? Try the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 yes as I believe unlike TAi he could have qualified for dual nationality. But he chose Australia. Not sure how you think that proves you point rear Tsi? So to repeat - on what grounds do u think tao qualified to ride as an Australian? He won't answer it because he knows he has been caught out in yet another lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Why? Didn't TW grasp what professionalism means? What on earth are you going on about ? Professionalism ? Tell me in this era how you can become a double WC and NOT be professional ? You are clearly so out of touch with Speedway it laughable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Eh? I thought you had an issue with multiple account users. Brum double standards, the gift that keeps on giving, lol! Do keep up.He said Tai has dual nationality which he has yet to prove. Basically because he can't. Edited May 13, 2017 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 yes as I believe unlike TAi he could have qualified for dual nationality. But he chose Australia. Not sure how you think that proves you point rear Tsi? So to repeat - on what grounds do u think tao qualified to ride as an Australian? Tai has citizenship of Austrailia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 IF he was asked if he was available and then snubbed that's pretty poor. Have heard from a decent source that he and Rosco don't get on and that it's because of a difference of opinion about professionalism. Such a shame but there you go. Why? Didn't TW grasp what professionalism means? Try the other way around. This is the sequence I was responding to Gordon Bennett. I am not clear that I understand the point you are trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Sticking to facts. Tai is British. He tweeted he rides for GB in the GPs (according to others has no choice) Tai refused to ride for Team GB Tai refused to ride for his national title. Tai now wants to ride for Britain in a two bit competition that happens to be on his home Polish track. Seems to me he is British when it suits him. Thats his choice but don't expect me to believe he is patriotic. He can ride for anyone in the GPs, it's just a license. He could ride for France or Belgium if he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Tai has citizenship of AustrailiaReally, can you provide a link?How did he qualify, doesn't meet any criteria that I can find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 He can ride for anyone in the GPs, it's just a license. He could ride for France or Belgium if he wanted. There is some merit in what you say SCB. Elsewhere on the BSF I have seen a thread covering international sidecar racing (for grass and long track). It carries a mention of riders appearing for countries other than the land of their birth - in FIM sanctioned competitions. On that basis, if a speedway rider wanted to race for a country over than the country he was born in, so far as the FIM appear to be concerned that would be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Tai has citizenship of Austrailia Really, can you provide a link? How did he qualify, doesn't meet any criteria that I can find? He was asked for proof and can't back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 There is some merit in what you say SCB. Elsewhere on the BSF I have seen a thread covering international sidecar racing (for grass and long track). It carries a mention of riders appearing for countries other than the land of their birth - in FIM sanctioned competitions. On that basis, if a speedway rider wanted to race for a country over than the country he was born in, so far as the FIM appear to be concerned that would be in order. The instance I refer to (above) was for a Dutch sidecar driver and a Britsh passenger to applied for and were granted German licences. They were then permitted to compete in FIM sanctioned international events for Germany. I also recall reading that in ice racing there have been instances of riders from one country being licensed by another and allowed to compete internationally for that choice. On that basis, there would appear to be nothing for a speedway rider to compete on the licence of and for a country that was not his birth country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 He was asked for proof and can't back it up. Really, can you provide a link? How did he qualify, doesn't meet any criteria that I can find? How did he stay in Austrailia for so long without becoming an Austrailian citizen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Tai has citizenship of Austrailia How did he stay in Austrailia for so long without becoming an Austrailian citizen ? Which is the correct comment please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The instance I refer to (above) was for a Dutch sidecar driver and a Britsh passenger to applied for and were granted German licences. They were then permitted to compete in FIM sanctioned international events for Germany. I also recall reading that in ice racing there have been instances of riders from one country being licensed by another and allowed to compete internationally for that choice. On that basis, there would appear to be nothing for a speedway rider to compete on the licence of and for a country that was not his birth country. I was that man. The passenger that is. And it's worse than you describe. Roel, my driver, was indeed Dutch but rode on a German licence. I always rode on an ACU licence but it is the driver's "nationality" that counts. Funny, I found one of my German race jackets only today buried in the garage. My youngest son wanted me tried for treason at the time! So I guess Tai could get an Aussie licence or a Greek one if he wanted to. The fact he rides under the Union Flag is no small thing. I for one, hope he makes it up with the British authorities and once again takes his place at the vanguard of our national team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Not sure what the debate is on this thread ? Tai's nationality ? patriotism ? personality? attitude? etc etc etc....... This guy lost his father, best friend, mentor, motivator, etc etc etc in 2010 and look at what he's gone on to achieve ? I think that as an out and out English supporter, I'm happy to share his possibly divided loyalty with the Aussies..... I think its incredible how he's overcome such a massive 'loss' in his life and it's probably added to why he's so adamant at standing up for what he believes in ? Just my opinion of a great speedway talent! He will always have my support on the track! Woffy woffy woffy !!! Which I proudly yelled at the top of my voice at the Warsaw Grand Prix....much to the annoyance of 40 odd thousand Poles!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Not sure what the debate is on this thread ? Tai's nationality ? patriotism ? personality? attitude? etc etc etc....... This guy lost his father, best friend, mentor, motivator, etc etc etc in 2010 and look at what he's gone on to achieve ? I think that as an out and out English supporter, I'm happy to share his possibly divided loyalty with the Aussies..... I think its incredible how he's overcome such a massive 'loss' in his life and it's probably added to why he's so adamant at standing up for what he believes in ? Just my opinion of a great speedway talent! He will always have my support on the track! Woffy woffy woffy !!! Which I proudly yelled at the top of my voice at the Warsaw Grand Prix....much to the annoyance of 40 odd thousand Poles!!! Many people have lost loved ones and gone on to success but to show lack of respect to your country and British fans that is what made a lot of people dislike him. Edited May 17, 2017 by robert72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) I concur he is a great talent on a speedway bike. Everyone agrees that British speedway at this moment is on a very low ebb. We have a two times world champion snubbing his own country to ride in the Polish and Swedish leagues. And lets be honest here Swedish speedway isnt in a very healthy place at this moment either, judging by the crowds and lack of noise from who is there. The teams must cost a fortune so they must be really leaking money. At least British speedway has cut its cloth accordingly. Tai could easily ride here if he wished. He could easily ride for TeamGB. He could easily ride in the British championsips as well. But he choses not to. He as being the best Britain has to offer could improve the sport in this country but choses not to. His snub of the country that taught him his trade stinks to be honest. Imo he could undo the damage by making himself available for teamGB and signing for a British club next season. Of course many will disagree and think it fine the way he has treated British speedway and its fans. Edited May 17, 2017 by Steve Shovlar 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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