Haza Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 You can think what you want but facts don't lie! and the facts are ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 So Scott Nicholls and Lee Richardson weren't patriotic either then. Tai was asked if he was available for the meeting, he replied that he was and could even help get some practice set up for it so they could take it SERIOUSLY. Which is what we wants Team GB to do for the World Cup but doesn't believe they do so. Quite rightly he will sit out until they do take it seriously. Just because others are happy with an amateur approach, he isn't. That's why he is a 2 time World Champion. I notice you've mentioned Tai helping with the practice, but haven't mentioned that he wanted to pick his own partner, which is the team managers job. Arrogance of the highest order..Britain is better off without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Sticking to facts. Tai is British. He tweeted he rides for GB in the GPs (according to others has no choice) Tai refused to ride for Team GB Tai refused to ride for his national title. Tai now wants to ride for Britain in a two bit competition that happens to be on his home Polish track. Seems to me he is British when it suits him. Thats his choice but don't expect me to believe he is patriotic. Tai is British He rides for GB in the Grand Prix Tai was let down by the professionalism of Team GB at the World Cup He didnt refuse to ride for his National title (cant believe that a year on nobody understands lol) He is British ALL the time, but the lack of any backing frustrates him I notice you've mentioned Tai helping with the practice, but haven't mentioned that he wanted to pick his own partner, which is the team managers job. Arrogance of the highest order..Britain is better off without him. Do us a favour pal. Why shouldnt the best rider we have be allowed to have some input into who he feels is best to ride with. Chris Louis and Mark Loram rode in the World Pairs together and demanded that the reserve was Steve Schofield. It happens all the time in every country. Tony Rickardsson had a major input into who rode for Sweden and Crump and Adams likewise for Australia. Your deluded if you think any different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tai is British He rides for GB in the Grand Prix Tai was let down by the professionalism of Team GB at the World Cup He didnt refuse to ride for his National title (cant believe that a year on nobody understands lol) He is British ALL the time, but the lack of any backing frustrates him Let's get the violins out! Trouble with Tai is he just gives out ultimatums if he doesn't get his own way, not the best approach imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Let's get the violins out! Trouble with Tai is he just gives out ultimatums if he doesn't get his own way, not the best approach imo. Not what i would call an ambassador for or sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Why is there a thread about Woffinden in the Premiership section ? Would it not be better in the international section which is where he rides. Since I posted something similar on the first page of this thread, I've been bombarded by personal messages criticising my genuine question and being less than complimentary. They are obviously from the same 'person' but seemingly with a selection of identities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tai is British He rides for GB in the Grand Prix Tai was let down by the professionalism of Team GB at the World Cup He didnt refuse to ride for his National title (cant believe that a year on nobody understands lol) He is British ALL the time, but the lack of any backing frustrates him Do us a favour pal. Why shouldnt the best rider we have be allowed to have some input into who he feels is best to ride with. Chris Louis and Mark Loram rode in the World Pairs together and demanded that the reserve was Steve Schofield. It happens all the time in every country. Tony Rickardsson had a major input into who rode for Sweden and Crump and Adams likewise for Australia. Your deluded if you think any different It's one thing having some input but it's quite another demanding who you want (which incidentally I can't imagine Louis and Loram doing, as they weren't 'up themselves' like Woffinden.) We may as well not bother with a team manager and let Tai make all the decisions! So if it was a clash of dates that stopped him riding in last years British Final what was his excuse this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Let's get the violins out! Trouble with Tai is he just gives out ultimatums if he doesn't get his own way, not the best approach imo. Erm no he doesnt With the right attitude he believed we could have won the World Cup last year. He wants the best for GB and when his voice isnt even heard he walked away and rightly so. Mark Loram funnily enough has been asked a lot of times to come back into the fold and help the youngsters but has refused every time due to the structure we have here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tai is British As I said FACT He rides for GB in the Grand Prix Again as I said FACT Tai was let down by the professionalism of Team GB at the World Cup Sorry that's opinion not fact He didnt refuse to ride for his National title (cant believe that a year on nobody understands lol) For whatever reason he refused so it's a FACT He is British ALL the time as I said FACT, but the lack of any backing frustrates him opinion As I said I was sticking to facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Erm no he doesnt With the right attitude he believed we could have won the World Cup last year. He wants the best for GB and when his voice isnt even heard he walked away and rightly so. Mark Loram funnily enough has been asked a lot of times to come back into the fold and help the youngsters but has refused every time due to the structure we have here. Nothing wrong with the job that Neil Vatcher is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's one thing having some input but it's quite another demanding who you want (which incidentally I can't imagine Louis and Loram doing, as they weren't 'up themselves' like Woffinden.) We may as well not bother with a team manager and let Tai make all the decisions! So if it was a clash of dates that stopped him riding in last years British Final what was his excuse this year? Where does it say he was 'demanding'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tai who! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 No they weren't but this thread is about Tai Woffinden not them. I must have missed yours and others constant criticism of them. So in reality, it's nothing to do with 'patriotic', or letting the country down etc.. it's purely some folk don't like him.. which in most cases is due to how he looks. It quite simply boils down to bigotry in the majority of cases. Let's get the violins out! Bless. What you and many others totally seem to fail to understand is, there are no violins. Only a full blown orchestra playing the Woffinden symphony as he wins World Titles and earns hundreds of thousands of pounds whilst you try to enable your jealousy with comments on a forum. So in reality... who are the violins for? Woffinden or the Robert72's, Speedibees, lisa-colletes of the world. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I notice you've mentioned Tai helping with the practice, but haven't mentioned that he wanted to pick his own partner, which is the team managers job. Arrogance of the highest order..Britain is better off without him. And the assumption he was picked to even ask that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I must have missed yours and others constant criticism of them. You obviously don't know me then because anyone who knew me then would tell you I had absolutely no time for Scott Nicholls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tai is British He rides for GB in the Grand Prix Tai was let down by the professionalism of Team GB at the World Cup He didnt refuse to ride for his National title (cant believe that a year on nobody understands lol) He is British ALL the time, but the lack of any backing frustrates him Do us a favour pal. Why shouldnt the best rider we have be allowed to have some input into who he feels is best to ride with. Chris Louis and Mark Loram rode in the World Pairs together and demanded that the reserve was Steve Schofield. It happens all the time in every country. Tony Rickardsson had a major input into who rode for Sweden and Crump and Adams likewise for Australia. Your deluded if you think any different They have implement pretty much what Tai asked for only problem is Tai wanted it done a different way with different people. Also Tai was asked if he was available, why is he asking for an input in team mate when his selection isn't guaranteed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 As I said I was sticking to facts. Your not. It was crystal clear why he didnt ride in last years final. It was the dates of the 2 semi finals that were the issue so Tai as World Champion and the biggest draw asked for a wildcard to the final and was told no. Should he have ridden in the semi finals just before a GP and risked injury and then struggled to defend his world crown?? The dates of those semi finals were an example of the short sightedness of the fixture list compilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Why is there a thread about Woffinden in the Premiership section ? Would it not be better in the international section which is where he rides. Perhaps because the topic would be more noticed in this section....as proved by the multiple pages so far? Personally I never look in the International section as I'm not interested, or the Years Gone By bit so I would have missed all this fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I must have missed yours and others constant criticism of them. So in reality, it's nothing to do with 'patriotic', or letting the country down etc.. it's purely some folk don't like him.. which in most cases is due to how he looks. It quite simply boils down to bigotry in the majority of cases. Bless. What you and many others totally seem to fail to understand is, there are no violins. Only a full blown orchestra playing the Woffinden symphony as he wins World Titles and earns hundreds of thousands of pounds whilst you try to enable your jealousy with comments on a forum. So in reality... who are the violins for? Woffinden or the Robert72's, Speedibees, lisa-colletes of the world. Lol, brilliant!!! :D What exactly am I jealous of him winning WT? Nope, I had no problem with Rickardsson and he won waaaayyyy more yet Tai still thinks he is better than him! Lol. If he dropped the arrogant attitude he would be quite likeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 at least Tai has dropped Team GB and that's given a true Brit a opportunity which can only be good . good for what? To get knocked out in the qualifiers by someone like Latvia next seadon because that's the way it's going. We should be building our future around Tai. Without him we have taken a massive step backwards as besides Lambert we have no one ready to take on the world's best nations for several years still. No they weren't but this thread is about Tai Woffinden not them. at least it's clear that Lee and Scott were equally as unpatriotic as Tai which is the main point. So if it was a clash of dates that stopped him riding in last years British Final what was his excuse this year? What sensible governing body doesn't seed their number one rider and multi world champion into their national final. Fault lies completely with the BSPA for not ensuring their star asset is part of the national title. Tai didn't need an excuse last year nor thus. Tai like Scott and Lee before him have shown the issue is always the BSPA when it comes to making participation in national events difficult. The signs have been clear for many a year. Lambert will be the next one to tell the BSPA to get lost too. Some riders can see the BS for what it is. It a pride to ride for your country but those governing it have done next to naff all about that for many a year. I don't blame any rider that takes that stance. The BSPA need to make things easier for those like Tai/lee/Scott/lambert as respect and pride works both ways, not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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