SCB Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 How pleasing is it to see there high scoring 15 year olds in the NL at present? Jordan Jenkins, Kyle Bickley and Tom Brennan. All three appear to be scoring points for fun, let's hope it continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 I saw Bickley at lakeside on Friday, and Brennan and Jenkins at eastbourne last night. They were all very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tsunami Posted May 7, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 How pleasing is it to see there high scoring 15 year olds in the NL at present? Jordan Jenkins, Kyle Bickley and Tom Brennan. All three appear to be scoring points for fun, let's hope it continues. For those who knock the efforts of folks who are involved in the youth development of youngsters, especially Neil Vatcher, these are the tip of the iceberg along with Leon Flint, Jack Parkinson-Blackburn, etc. Next year there will be another crop of riders and the more we produce, the less guests and the less Foreign riders, allbeit at a lower team strength. They are the future. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Lets give them time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) Leon Flint to come next year as well as a lot that are in the 125/150's at the moment in a few years, all looking really good, I'm very happy with our youth set up at this moment in time and I wish them all the best Also the likes of Bewley who burst on to the scene last year as well as Shanes and Hume (who I know is injured at this moment in time) Edited May 7, 2017 by allthegearbutnaeidea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Lots of positives now starting to show from much hard work and effort behind the scenes that often isnt noticed or recognsised. Long may it continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Parkinson Blackburn, Bewley,Hume,Brennan,Bickley,Jenkins,Shanes,( Flint,Mcgurk, Thompson brothers in the future) the future looks very bright.I just hope these riders get prolonged chances as they will have tough periods and need to be aloud to ride there way through it.The unlucky Danny Phillips at Newcastle was a great example of that happening have faith and some of these will come through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 How pleasing is it to see there high scoring 15 year olds in the NL at present? Jordan Jenkins, Kyle Bickley and Tom Brennan. All three appear to be scoring points for fun, let's hope it continues. Two of those are on GTRs as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Yes, the future looks bright, but how many stars of the future failed miserably in the past, have hit a brick wall in their expected progress and disappeared from a career we all waited to take off. British riders nowadays seem quite content with being a decent loser or maybe struggle with funds for the best equipment. They just seem to only get so far and then... wham! They don't have the strength or will to get over the brick wall. Edited May 8, 2017 by moxey63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Yes, the future looks bright, but how many stars of the future failed miserably in the past, have hit a brick wall in their expected progress and disappeared from a career we all waited to take off. British riders nowadays seem quite content with being a decent loser or maybe struggle with funds for the best equipment. They just seem to only get so far and then... wham! They don't have the strength or will to get over the brick wall. There's always one isn't there. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 There's always one isn't there. He makes a very valid point though.. although, it can be said that is the case with all countries.. others have just had a bigger supply of riders so that a few more of them got over that hump. Hopefully with a greater number of riders coming through the UK can begin to do the same in the years to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 BRITISH speedway needs a plan for these kids ... proper tuition to hone their good points and eliminate their bad ones. No matter how talented they are should not be left to their own devices in the hope that they will keep climbing the ladder. Invest in the future. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 BRITISH speedway needs a plan for these kids ... proper tuition to hone their good points and eliminate their bad ones. No matter how talented they are should not be left to their own devices in the hope that they will keep climbing the ladder. Invest in the future. Off topic, but have you received a call from Buster yet regarding the Speedway Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Yes, the future looks bright, but how many stars of the future failed miserably in the past, have hit a brick wall in their expected progress and disappeared from a career we all waited to take off. British riders nowadays seem quite content with being a decent loser or maybe struggle with funds for the best equipment. They just seem to only get so far and then... wham! They don't have the strength or will to get over the brick wall. That applies to every sport and every nationality. Only a few make the grade equivalent to that which will let a Speedway rider have a career and a miniscule percentage reach the top. It is encouraging to me that there is now a decent route into Speedway in the same way Grasstrack used to be. Get enough kids doing circles on bikes and the best will come through and if they are lucky enough to avoid injuries and able to get through the financial difficulties they are the future. It is certainly an improvement on recent years and the first really promising time since Peter Oakes tried in the early 2000's. This time it looks like it has more support from the BSPA so can only be a good thing. I think Philip is spot on though, these kids shouldn't be left to their own devices once they hit NL teams. They need skilled help with their development until they reach the highest level they are capable of. If that's the NL or Championship for the majority then we have to accept those team places need riders too, success in bringing on youngsters shouldn't be measured by the amount of GP stars it produces. Now keep them out of the asset system for a few years (or even better do away with it) and the futeure would look even better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 BRITISH speedway needs a plan for these kids ... proper tuition to hone their good points and eliminate their bad ones. No matter how talented they are should not be left to their own devices in the hope that they will keep climbing the ladder. Invest in the future. you are correct of course but won't the 'asset' question come up? X, Y or Z team benefitting from coaching they don't actually provide themselves and conversely will the BSPA or whoever object to the expense of training someone else's asset? It could be funded by a tax of sorts but you can't see that being popular. It highlights the lack of unity in the sport, which is essentially 30 different businesses loosely associated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) you are correct of course but won't the 'asset' question come up? X, Y or Z team benefitting from coaching they don't actually provide themselves and conversely will the BSPA or whoever object to the expense of training someone else's asset? It could be funded by a tax of sorts but you can't see that being popular. It highlights the lack of unity in the sport, which is essentially 30 different businesses loosely associated We already have the poultec training scheme for young riders when they have assistance and training in fitness, life style, riding, mechanics and media. Some are already attached to a club and that youth system does not cause any problems in terms of assets. In addition Team GB receives training prior to events such as the World Cup and that doesn't cause any resentment towards individual promotions. At the end the end it is the BSPA that puts this sort of assistance/training into place by voting on it. Edited May 8, 2017 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) What is the reason for all this youth development when the indications are that year-on-year spectator interest in the sport is declining? Edited May 8, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Off topic, but have you received a call from Buster yet regarding the Speedway Star NO ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 What is the reason for all this youth development when the indications are that year-on-year spectator interest in the sport is declining? I thought crowds were supposed to be up this year? The point is that anyone prepared to have a go deserves a bit of help and it might just mean that more of them reach their true potential. It might also provide a shot in the arm for UK Speedway if we have more riders at the top level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) I thought crowds were supposed to be up this year? The point is that anyone prepared to have a go deserves a bit of help and it might just mean that more of them reach their true potential. It might also provide a shot in the arm for UK Speedway if we have more riders at the top level. There are indeed indications that attendances have improved at some tracks but probably in hundreds only rather than a much needed upturn in the thousands. I looked for a speedway mention in one National newspaper today - the sport managed one-and-half lines in small print tucked away in the Classified Results. It needs far more coverage than that to indicate a revival is on the way - hence my previouscomment about "what is the point of all this youth development." Recent attendances I have seen mentioned elsewhere on the BSF in other threads have been 250 for Lakeside Hammers v Belle Vue Colts and 350 for last week's meeting at Isle of Wight. Edited May 8, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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