Scotland's B Team Vs Scotland's A Team

[JanAndersen]

 

But not to the extent that it is at Armadale that's the point.

Ok, let's say they prepared the track to a condition that didn't benefit the home riders quite as much (a mental thing to do), Edinburgh would still likely have won those play off matches just by a smaller margin. Same outcome; loadsa trophies.

[Gazc]

 

I think others may have had a "sun-off".

Who? uncalled for that any idea when this took place?.

 

Why has this allegation not been posted before.

[TheScotsman]

Who? uncalled for that any idea when this took place?.

 

Why has this allegation not been posted before.

 

I couldn't possibly comment - at least not on a Monarchs v Weegies thread!!

[scotchopper]

 

Dear psycho,

 

You obviously haven't a clue, nowt to do with away its the home trick track with a thousand percent home advantage and bends where at the apex riders often almost come to a virtual standstill that's the issue, nowt to do with away at all, already spelt that out but you obviously don't listen.

 

Dodgy trick track that's the issue and specialist set up cos its such a dodgy trick track, that does (fact) give you an unfair advantage and probably very different on a fair track over a two legged cup comp that the "league" title has been reduced to in recent seasons, saw the above match and capable visiting riders couldn't do anything on that trick track it was a sham, a Mickey Mouse trick track in a Mickey Mouse stadium.

 

Well that's a bonus, but what a cop out, you obviously know I have a point and I'm right

hahahaha never read anything so funny, every team has a home track advantage some more than others but it's nowhere near as big an advantage at armadale as you suggest, yawn with 1000% rubbish.

 

cyclone gave you the reason monarchs won most of those 2 leg ties which was because of the result away from home . In the match you pick on as proof in your point Monarchs lost by 7 at Glasgow so even if there was no home advantage at all the Tigers would never have kept that within 7. If you have a good team and great riders Cook, Masters, Sedgmen, etc it makes scores a lot bigger than it would be otherwise because of the quality of the team regardless of the track.

 

What you need to prove your point is look at the seasons where we have had a poor team and find some results that we shouldn't have had. Last season we didn't have a bad team but it wasn't quite as good as the previous 2 seasons and we only won 1 out of 3 ties over 2 legs against Plymouth in the first round of the ko cup. The reason we won that tie is because we only lost by 5 at Plymouth. the reason we lost the other 2 is because we got spanked in the away leg, did Ipswich and Glasgow suddenly have 1000% home advantage?? of course not they were the better teams and deserved to win just as we have been in the past.

 

each to their own but i live within 2 hours drive of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Berwick and Newcastle and I would pick armadale for racing over the other 3 every day of the week.

 

Here's hoping for some great racing tonight and a Monarchs win

[TheScotsman]

Sounds from the updates that it was a great match.

 

Well done to both sides.

[Gazc]

Sounds from the updates that it was a great match.

 

Well done to both sides.

Yep sounds as if it was a good one working late so couldn't get through but i would have taken a point so 2 is a bonus but well done to both teams , sounds like the crowd got value for money tonight.

[Cerro]

Never anymore than 2 points in it, great meeting and a good result for the Tigers

[GS550]

hahahaha never read anything so funny, every team has a home track advantage some more than others but it's nowhere near as big an advantage at armadale as you suggest, yawn with 1000% rubbish.

 

cyclone gave you the reason monarchs won most of those 2 leg ties which was because of the result away from home . In the match you pick on as proof in your point Monarchs lost by 7 at Glasgow so even if there was no home advantage at all the Tigers would never have kept that within 7. If you have a good team and great riders Cook, Masters, Sedgmen, etc it makes scores a lot bigger than it would be otherwise because of the quality of the team regardless of the track.

 

What you need to prove your point is look at the seasons where we have had a poor team and find some results that we shouldn't have had. Last season we didn't have a bad team but it wasn't quite as good as the previous 2 seasons and we only won 1 out of 3 ties over 2 legs against Plymouth in the first round of the ko cup. The reason we won that tie is because we only lost by 5 at Plymouth. the reason we lost the other 2 is because we got spanked in the away leg, did Ipswich and Glasgow suddenly have 1000% home advantage?? of course not they were the better teams and deserved to win just as we have been in the past.

 

each to their own but i live within 2 hours drive of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Berwick and Newcastle and I would pick armadale for racing over the other 3 every day of the week.

 

Here's hoping for some great racing tonight and a Monarchs win

 

To be fair to Cyclops he makes a lot of good points but don't tell him I said that

 

Yep the home track advantage is common to all teams - just seems to be accentuated in the case of Armadiddle. A bit like Berrington Lough was home advantage..... Plus!

 

And yeah unlike the Bandits of old when they were at Berrington Lough, the Monarchs have usually been very capable away from home but don't tell anybody I said that, in fact I defo never said it.

[TheScotsman]

Not much home advantage tonight!

[Fromafar]

Cleggs coat must be on a shoogly nail.

[GS550]

Not much home advantage tonight!

 

Haha. You could have a point there me old fruit.

[Gazc]

Cleggs coat must be on a shoogly nail.

He will be dropping to reserve so i would imagine Edinburgh will stick with him.

 

He is clearly struggling but they will hope once he drops to reserve his point scoring will improve.

[GS550]

Cleggs coat must be on a shoogly nail.

 

.....not for the first time

[Fromafar]

He will be dropping to reserve so i would imagine Edinburgh will stick with him.

He is clearly struggling but they will hope once he drops to reserve his point scoring will improve.

Possibly ,finding a replacement is difficult these days.

[MD]

Cleggs coat must be on a shoogly nail.

Liam Carr would be a better shout once Riss M moves up.

[Cj69]

Back from a very enjoyable meeting. A few passes but it was the close scoreline that kept it entertaining.

 

Would guess most tigers fans would have hoped for at least a point but could feel a little unlucky not to get the win. But then again Monarchs could be said to be a little unlucky so a draw a fair result IMO.

 

If we had M Riss in the team and clegg at reserve we would have lost. For me its time to seriously consider replacing Clegg (is Carr an improvement??). Would guess we will stick with him at reserve see if he starts to score.

 

Finally I like the rivalry between both fans but some can go over the top. Both sets of fans equality guilty of taking it too far. Glasgow fans screaming and swearing like they won the league and Edinburgh acting like iv just slapped their granny. Cmon get a grip people not the end (or start) of the world. Maybe im just a wee softy.

 

Thankfully had a lovely older group (of tigers) in front of me who gave my son a pound coin after he fell over and cut his hand while he was prancing around the railings.

Edited May 12, 2017 by Cj69

[GS550]

Back from a very enjoyable meeting. A few passes but it was the close scoreline that kept it entertaining.

 

Thankfully had a lovely older group (of tigers) in front of me who gave my son a pound coin after he fell over and cut his hand while he prancing around the railings.

 

[stewmac]

You can't win expect to win against the Tiggers when you throw points away left, right and centre as Edinburgh did tonight.

First Pickering threw away a point in heat 1 by falling then he failed to beat Jack Smith in heat 6. Clegg continues to look bereft of any idea of how to beat anyone and it's now imperative a replacement is sorted out for him. Wells went from champ to chump, and Davey continues to do the bare minimum without ever excelling. And I'd also question the fact that Mark Riss only had 6 rides. The way he was used wasn't exactly sensible, keeping the first half of the meeting so empty of his rides. Was it sensible to use the crap gating Pickering in heat 10? I'd have used Riss there, as he'd likely have outgated one or both of the Tiggers.

Had Monarchs ridden to the top of their game and used their reserve to his full capacity I'd have thought we should have won by at least 4-6 and probably by enough to secure all 3 points.

No doubt who the happier team will be tonight.

Edited May 12, 2017 by stewmac

[Gazc]

You can't win expect to win against the Tiggers when you throw points away left, right and centre as Edinburgh did tonight.

First Pickering threw away a point in heat 1 by falling then he failed to beat Jack Smith in heat 6. Clegg continues to look bereft of any idea of how to beat anyone and it's now imperative a replacement is sorted out for him. Wells went from champ to chump, and Davey continues to do the bare minimum without ever excelling. And I'd also question the fact that Mark Riss only had 6 rides. The way he was used wasn't exactly sensible, keeping the first half of the meeting so empty of his rides. Was it sensible to use the crap gating Pickering in heat 10? I'd have used Riss there, as he'd likely have outgated one or both of the Tiggers.

Had Monarchs ridden to the top of their game and used their reserve to his full capacity I'd have thought we should have won by at least 4-6 and probably by enough to secure all 3 points.

No doubt who the happier team will be tonight.

If you had won by 4-6 you would still have got 3 points regardless.

 

Good to see you are taking it well never mind always the next time eh.

Edited May 12, 2017 by Gazc

[Paulco]

You can't win expect to win against the Tiggers when you throw points away left, right and centre as Edinburgh did tonight.

First Pickering threw away a point in heat 1 by falling then he failed to beat Jack Smith in heat 6. Clegg continues to look bereft of any idea of how to beat anyone and it's now imperative a replacement is sorted out for him. Wells went from champ to chump, and Davey continues to do the bare minimum without ever excelling. And I'd also question the fact that Mark Riss only had 6 rides. The way he was used wasn't exactly sensible, keeping the first half of the meeting so empty of his rides. Was it sensible to use the crap gating Pickering in heat 10? I'd have used Riss there, as he'd likely have outgated one or both of the Tiggers.

Had Monarchs ridden to the top of their game and used their reserve to his full capacity I'd have thought we should have won by at least 4-6 and probably by enough to secure all 3 points.

No doubt who the happier team will be tonight.

You forgot to mention Wells staying down to get the race stopped in heat 13 when we gated on a 5-1 , and as usual when these things happen , it becomes a 3-3 in the rerun , so that negates some of the points Edinburgh lost .

But it was an enthralling encounter , with great performances on both sides . Big crowd on a chilly night , but both sets of fans seemed relatively happy in the bar afterwards . A pleasant beer was enjoyed in the company of Davy H and Alan from the Emmerdales . A better result for us rather than them , but I can't see either of our two clubs not being involved in the end of season play offs