Ipswich Witches Vs Glasgow Tigers Thurs 4th May C1

[AntiqueSteve]

Pretty happy with that...I forecast a win by ten and going into Heat 15 it looked pretty accurate, just a shame about the last race to deprive them of a point

 

Considering the amount of money they have got backing them I suppose we should be pleased and everyone said we would struggle but they were pretty much a three man team and what about that man Shanes...wow !

[MANSE]

Pity about the 5-1 Glasgow were on in heat 13 when Ritchie had a puncture.Re your remark about money which was invested in stadium and your points total is greater than ours. Looking at your team I think it might cost more than Glasgows

[bigcatdiary]

Kevin Long has said as it stands he would miss 10+ meetings with his other commitments.

I think a few teams have looked at him, he certainly looked good at Peterborough when winning the recent U21 SF, he has a lot of weekend grasstrack commitments apparently so clearly riding in a league that rides predominantly at weekends does provide considerable problems.

[Baldyman]

Of course everyone has been looking at him, best 2 pointer out there by miles. Don't know when his average changes but I would imagine that was the only time we could have used him.

 

Mountain needs to change something drastically at foxhall, cos once his confidence has gone, it's hard to get back. He is starting to look more cautious every meeting at home.

[bigcatdiary]

Of course everyone has been looking at him, best 2 pointer out there by miles. Don't know when his average changes but I would imagine that was the only time we could have used him.

Mountain needs to change something drastically at foxhall, cos once his confidence has gone, it's hard to get back. He is starting to look more cautious every meeting at home.

He has done 5 matches so far for Poole and is still averaging 2.00 so I don't see his average changing much anytime soon.

[Bash]

The rumours are he might be released along with KK from Poole to allow Newman and one other to go more strength in depth. If that is true he wouldn't have any clashes with Poole as he would only be riding for Ipswich. As others have been saying if its grasstrack commitments pay him more or get some sponsorship for him to change his mind.

First time I have seen him ride and very impressed. Said in his man of match interview he didn't like the Ipswich track last year but obviously the changes over the winter changed his mind.

[Baldyman]

He is contracted to do the grasstrack events as far as I'm aware

[CookieIpswich]

Louis needs to think, having shanes for limited meetings and having to go down the guest route for ten meetings, would it get Ipswich into the play offs?

 

And more crucially would shanes me available for the play offs, if both are Yes then sign him up and deal with the rest as it comes

[Baldyman]

As soon as the current 2 pointers are not 2 pointers anymore then we will have issues. You are then asking the top 5 to score ten each every meeting basically and that's not going to happen every week

[GS550]

Considering the amount of money they have got backing them I suppose we should be pleased and everyone said we would struggle but they were pretty much a three man team and what about that man Shanes...wow !

 

Take guest James Shanes scoring out though and it would been an away win. Not to mention Worrall's puncture/retirement from Heat 13 whilst on a 5-1.

 

You say a three man team but you overlook that the fourth average rider was out injured. Glasgow still got an away point though and in a league that's more about an end of season knock out cup comp its more about improving riders that come good later in the season: Glasgow's team is set up for that kind of format with 3 established riders and 4 that are young and on the rise including Nike Lunna and Dan Bewley.

 

You mention about money, but money has limited effect when there's a points limit. It aint like football, if Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc, were limited to the grades of player they could sign/field, limited to the same as the likes of Crystal Palace, then the Premiership would probably have a very different look about it. It aint all about money when there's a points limit to work to as we have in speedway.

[bigcatdiary]

Louis needs to think, having shanes for limited meetings and having to go down the guest route for ten meetings, would it get Ipswich into the play offs?

And more crucially would shanes me available for the play offs, if both are Yes then sign him up and deal with the rest as it comes

The problem with that is Grasstrack commitments would likely mean no facility which basically calls means a 6.00 pt NL rider.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

The problem with that is Grasstrack commitments would likely mean no facility which basically calls means a 6.00 pt NL rider.

which is what we will be left with anyway....

[Sings4Speedway]

He is contracted to do the grasstrack events as far as I'm aware

 

As correctly stated James has several continental contracts signed for grass/longtrack and would be foolish to break them. He is very aware that his best prospects of becoming world champion are down that route rather than speedway.

He is also clever enough to realise that his continental stiff could stretch on for years whereas a Championship position could only last a season.

I guess it boils down to which 10 meetings he would miss? if they were away the guests could be found who go well at the respective tracks?

[AntiqueSteve]

 

Take guest James Shanes scoring out though and it would been an away win. Not to mention Worrall's puncture/retirement from Heat 13 whilst on a 5-1.

 

You say a three man team but you overlook that the fourth average rider was out injured. Glasgow still got an away point though and in a league that's more about an end of season knock out cup comp its more about improving riders that come good later in the season: Glasgow's team is set up for that kind of format with 3 established riders and 4 that are young and on the rise including Nike Lunna and Dan Bewley.

 

You mention about money, but money has limited effect when there's a points limit. It aint like football, if Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, etc, were limited to the grades of player they could sign/field, limited to the same as the likes of Crystal Palace, then the Premiership would probably have a very different look about it. It aint all about money when there's a points limit to work to as we have in speedway.

Sure we could all go down the "what ifs" route... what about Danny's clutch in Heat 1 and subsequent engine problems all night, he's been pretty unbeatable round Foxhall until last night, etc. etc (were you there ?)

 

You mention money..I know its not football (been watching speedway for over 40 years mate) but where machinery is concerned money can make alot of difference, none of us can say for sure what goes on but the best possible equipment is ALL about money.

[Gazc]

Sure we could all go down the "what ifs" route... what about Danny's clutch in Heat 1 and subsequent engine problems all night, he's been pretty unbeatable round Foxhall until last night, etc. etc (were you there ?)

 

You mention money..I know its not football (been watching speedway for over 40 years mate) but where machinery is concerned money can make alot of difference, none of us can say for sure what goes on but the best possible equipment is ALL about money.

You got one bit correct none of us really knows what goes on.

 

As for last night the main difference between the teams was Shanes shrewd choice by Louis as the boy done well.

 

As for ifs and buts its sport it happens.

Edited May 5, 2017 by Gazc

[Arch Stanton]

Worth pointing out that Shanes was replacing Hume, who has also hit double figures at Foxhall and been riding very well.

 

We picked a good replacement guest last night, but the reality is that will be short lived and we're very unlikely to sufficiently replace Hume long term.

 

You can put good looking teams together in the winter but you need luck along the way in this game.

 

We've had plenty so far, unfortunately it's been of the rotten kind.

 

But despite that, we're still in the mix at the business end of the table.

[GS550]

what about Danny's clutch in Heat 1 and subsequent engine problems all night, he's been pretty unbeatable round Foxhall until last night

 

You mention money..I know its not football (been watching speedway for over 40 years mate) but where machinery is concerned money can make alot of difference, none of us can say for sure what goes on but the best possible equipment is ALL about money.

You have a point there, Danny is a top rider fer sure.

 

Only 40 years? Machinery aint just about money, as you'll know you also need a rider that can use it, look what Bridger did on Liam Carr's bike the other week, Carr wasn't doing much with it and reportedly Bridger's performance transformed showing real speed and winning heats on it which Liam hadn't been on the same bike so it aint as simple as throwing money at the equipment, you need a pilot on board that can use it.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Worth pointing out that Shanes was replacing Hume, who has also hit double figures at Foxhall and been riding very well.

 

We picked a good replacement guest last night, but the reality is that will be short lived and we're very unlikely to sufficiently replace Hume long term.

 

You can put good looking teams together in the winter but you need luck along the way in this game.

 

We've had plenty so far, unfortunately it's been of the rotten kind.

 

But despite that, we're still in the mix at the business end of the table.

very good points - agree that whilst the contribution of Shanes won us the meeting the performances of Danyon at home so far had been just as impressive.

 

I wouldve expected similar from Danyon and certainly enough for it still to be a Witches win.

[Arch Stanton]

very good points - agree that whilst the contribution of Shanes won us the meeting the performances of Danyon at home so far had been just as impressive.

 

I wouldve expected similar from Danyon and certainly enough for it still to be a Witches win.

Exactly. You'd think reading some of the comments we'd drafted in a ringer who was far superior to what we had which isn't the case.

 

Anyway, it appears we're working on a couple of solutions according to RH so it's going to be interesting to see what they come up with.

 

Can't see a lot myself in all honesty but we'll see.

[GS550]

You'd think reading some of the comments we'd drafted in a ringer who was far superior to what we had which isn't the case.

 

Thanks for the clarification. Ipswich are a good team no question, didn't appreciate Hume had been top scoring.