Tai Massive Project

[Trees]

To all those Woffinden detractors out there, and there are a few, would you say that Tai has been well treated by British Speedway or badly treated?

Well treated. If someone can tell me different please do. I'd like to know what happened re him helping out TeamGB etc so I can make up my mind on that score but nobody will say.....

[Sidney the robin]

The Collins and Morton brothers and the likes of Dave Trownson used to ride on farmland, if I recall, and Ainsdale Sands was another opportunity for budding young riders (Peter Craven for example)...very different era back then!

And those days were alot BETTER in my view with local residents now having far to much clout about noise issues.A Polish lad who i work with who sometimes mechanics for K.K, Musielak, Zengy says in Poland alot of track facilities are open 6/7 days a week.This provides aquipment (parents who are poor) and most importantly teaches the kids on the mechanical side how good is that!!! this providing an opportunity to keep kids off the street and there are shedloads of talent out there in Poland.

Anyone who thinks tai should be involved in helping British youngsters are off their rocker.

Tai is a liability to youngsters and it's clear he doesn't care about British speedway or British fans.

I dont mind you to be honest Robert but on this topic best you say nothing.

[waytogo28]

There is a good side and a less good side to all of us! Tai cannot assist, guide and aid the development of those who are NOT open to understanding how much you have to put in, if you want to get to the top ( or even near the top ) of speedway. Tai can be a force for good with those youngsters and the very up & coming riders like Lambert ( IF of course they "click" as people because belief is so much in terms of learning from a good teacher ). The yobby side to Tai is real and he needs to get some emery paper on that himself ( in terms of how massive sponsors like their sportsmen to come across as ). Tai has been well treated by British speedway and has given quite a bit back until the most recent personality clash ( and that is what I think it is - and not just with one individual ). I think that he will return - sometime - to ride for GB. Only he knows when that is. Roll on World title No.3 for Tai.

[Sidney the robin]

I was never a fan of Tai i thought he was overated but i was totally wrong thought he should of have to of qualified for his second stint in the series.But he worked bloody hard took his chance and how i admire him for that people also forget he lost his Dad along the way how hard was that but he came through.What young lad would not listen to Tai ? not many i would suggest and in a way it hurts me to think that Craven( maybe) PC, Lee have won less titles ( Different days) but i want Tai to win more World titles.

Edited May 1, 2017 by Sidney the robin

[bruno]

Not a fan of Tai's mouth but no one can argue he's talent on a bike, I reckon he's main problem is he's frustrated that the bspa arnt anywhere near his professionalism . Dropplng out of the Gb squad and missing the British final are big mistakes though. Bit like Hancock they think their bigger than there nations teams. In reality though they are. Not a good excuse to pull out though

[speedibee]

Maybe it has nothing to do with British Speedway.. a massive project might be something completely outside of speedway

Something for himself yep , that would be more likely

[Steve Shovlar]

So does he want to teach the youngsters?

 

To get themselves plastered in tatooes?

To use expletives when speaking live on TV?

To show how to treat British Speedway league by thumbing his nose at it?

To show contempt for British speedway fans by refusing to ride in the British Championships?

To show further contempt by refusing to ride for TeamGB in the SWC?

 

The guy hasn't got anything to offer British youngsters other than how not to do it. Sure hes a great rider on a bike but it ends right there.

 

Neil Vatcher is doing a great job, young lads are progressing and We are starting to see young talent come through. No need whatsoever for Woffinden to be involved in anything to do with the sport in this country. The guy's made himself a pariah so why on earth would British speedway bother to do anything in return?

 

Its a real shame that a British world champion has snubbed his nose at Great Britain. But you reap what you sew.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

For me he has turned his back on me the British fan so I have repaid the compliment ,I have no interest in anything tai does inside speedway or outside it

[Sidney the robin]

So does he want to teach the youngsters?

To get themselves plastered in tatooes?

To use expletives when speaking live on TV?

To show how to treat British Speedway league by thumbing his nose at it?

To show contempt for British speedway fans by refusing to ride in the British Championships?

To show further contempt by refusing to ride for TeamGB in the SWC?

The guy hasn't got anything to offer British youngsters other than how not to do it. Sure hes a great rider on a bike but it ends right there.

Neil Vatcher is doing a great job, young lads are progressing and We are starting to see young talent come through. No need whatsoever for Woffinden to be involved in anything to do with the sport in this country. The guy's made himself a pariah so why on earth would British speedway bother to do anything in return?

Its a real shame that a British world champion has snubbed his nose at Great Britain. But you reap what you sew.

Are Darcy /Tai tarred with the same brush ? you saw the best in Darcy so why not Tai ?.In a way you are a hypocrite,i stuck up for Ward long before his accident (as endless others did on this forum) because i saw the best in him yet you just kill off Woffinden you dont even know the bloke. I will stick my neck out we are not producing loads of young riders as you say that we can GUARANTEE to even reach championship level so yes Tai's input would be a help.

[foamfence]

For me he has turned his back on me the British fan so I have repaid the compliment ,I have no interest in anything tai does inside speedway or outside it

That's totally understandable and I have similar views but you never know, the prodigal might return and redeem himself.....Then again, he might just launch a MOAB of expletives our way.

Edited May 1, 2017 by foamfence

[Sidney the robin]

That's totally understandable and I have similar views but you never know, the prodigal might return and redeem himself.....Then again, he might just launch a MOAB of expletives our way.

I agree with you TDM view is totally understandable and yes we could all be wrong but at least you two put it in a nice way fair play for that.

[ray c]

So does he want to teach the youngsters?

To get themselves plastered in tatooes?

To use expletives when speaking live on TV?

To show how to treat British Speedway league by thumbing his nose at it?

To show contempt for British speedway fans by refusing to ride in the British Championships?

To show further contempt by refusing to ride for TeamGB in the SWC?

The guy hasn't got anything to offer British youngsters other than how not to do it. Sure hes a great rider on a bike but it ends right there.

Neil Vatcher is doing a great job, young lads are progressing and We are starting to see young talent come through. No need whatsoever for Woffinden to be involved in anything to do with the sport in this country. The guy's made himself a pariah so why on earth would British speedway bother to do anything in return?

Its a real shame that a British world champion has snubbed his nose at Great Britain. But you reap what you sew.

well said Steve nothing to add to that

[Steve Shovlar]

Are Darcy /Tai tarred with the same brush ? you saw the best in Darcy so why not Tai ?.In a way you are a hypocrite,i stuck up for Ward long before his accident (as endless others did on this forum) because i saw the best in him yet you just kill off Woffinden you dont even know the bloke. I will stick my neck out we are not producing loads of young riders as you say that we can GUARANTEE to even reach championship level so yes Tai's input would be a help.

Darcy for all his faults, never turned his back on British speedway. And for an Aussie he gave his all for the EL.

 

Woffinden as a Brit, has shown utter distain for British speedway, at league and international level. Why should we, as fans of British speedway both at club level and at country level, offer support to someone who refuses to ride at either level?

 

His support is down to a few hardcore Fans at GP level and the Wolverhampton fanbase. Most see him as someone who used the British system then cleared off. Good riddance imo.

[Sidney the robin]

Darcy for all his faults, never turned his back on British speedway. And for an Aussie he gave his all for the EL.

Woffinden as a Brit, has shown utter distain for British speedway, at league and international level. Why should we, as fans of British speedway both at club level and at country level, offer support to someone who refuses to ride at either level?

His support is down to a few hardcore Fans at GP level and the Wolverhampton fanbase. Most see him as someone who used the British system then cleared off. Good riddance imo.

If you think Tai only has a few fans you must be Stevie Wonder 😀 a hypocrite still stands ironic that Tai/Darcy got on well. Edited May 1, 2017 by Sidney the robin

[Guest]

Darcy for all his faults, never turned his back on British speedway. And for an Aussie he gave his all for the EL.

 

Woffinden as a Brit, has shown utter distain for British speedway, at league and international level. Why should we, as fans of British speedway both at club level and at country level, offer support to someone who refuses to ride at either level?

 

His support is down to a few hardcore Fans at GP level and the Wolverhampton fanbase. Most see him as someone who used the British system then cleared off. Good riddance imo.

I can't disagree with your observations Steve Shovlar.

[Steve Shovlar]

If you think Tai only has a few fans you must be Stevie Wonder a hypocrite still stands ironic that Tai/Darcy got on well.

What the hell has the fact that Woffinden and Ward are friends? Doesn't change the fact Woffinden has crapped over British speedway.

[Trees]

For me he has turned his back on me the British fan so I have repaid the compliment ,I have no interest in anything tai does inside speedway or outside it

I feel exactly the same!

[Red Flag]

For me he has turned his back on me the British fan so I have repaid the compliment ,I have no interest in anything tai does inside speedway or outside it

Fair enough and your choice just wonder then why you are reading and then posting on a thread about him??

[foamfence]

Fair enough and your choice just wonder then why you are reading and then posting on a thread about him??

Because it's open to ALL members, not just those who agree 100% with everything he does?

[Sidney the robin]

What the hell has the fact that Woffinden and Ward are friends? Doesn't change the fact Woffinden has crapped over British speedway.

What the hell has the fact that Woffinden and Ward are friends? Doesn't change the fact Woffinden has crapped over British speedway.

I stand by what i said you are still a hypocrite support Darcy to the hilt being a blue noser yet crap all over Woffinden double standards.And another point why is Pete Adams someone i respect helping him he cant be all bad. Edited May 1, 2017 by Sidney the robin