Trees Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) You think that people that go Cardiff are not speedway fans??? I dont go to a sporting event i dont have an interest in. Hate Rugby and Cricket and funnily enough never been. Ok narrow it down to 25000 speedway fans then.................still know who will get the biggest cheer. Do you think that all fans go every week? I go to Ipswich 5 or 6 times a season. I would suggest many other fans do the same. People dont have the time or the finances or even the desire to go every week. when i was younger it was Ipswich Thursday, Hackney Friday, Arena Saturday and Rye House Sunday. Im married with a family i dont go so much now. But i go to Cardiff (apart from 3 times). Im pretty sure a lot of fans are the same. Facts are facts........ Tai is British and a 2x World Champion and people abuse him because he doesnt race here and doesnt agree with the BSPA. Crazy Can you please give a valued response as to why you think he should race here? And saying ' Because he is British' isnt a good enough response And do you honestly think him not racing here is affecting British speedway? The same reason the Swedes race in Sweden, the Poles race in Poland and the Danes race in Denmark ... Of course him not racing here affects sport in this country, he would be a draw card and popular guy .... Edited May 15, 2017 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 You think that people that go Cardiff are not speedway fans??? Facts are facts........ Tai is British and a 2x World Champion and people abuse him because he doesnt race here and doesnt agree with the BSPA. Crazy Can you please give a valued response as to why you think he should race here? And saying ' Because he is British' isnt a good enough response And do you honestly think him not racing here is affecting British speedway? I know not all people who go to Cardiff are speedway fans. I've taken a couple along with me in the past for a 'day out'. Being double world champion, it's a kick in the teeth that Woffinden doesn't race in his home league. You seem to have been around speedway long enough to know what a draw a world champion can be to a domestic meeting. The chance of seeing the WC in aciton or the chance that one of your second strings, or even (and it's been known) a reserve beating the current world champion is often enough to stick a few extra people through the turnstyles who maybe would have given it a miss otherwise. More revenue for the promotions, making clubs more secure - that's just one way him not racing here could affect British Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 I know not all people who go to Cardiff are speedway fans. I've taken a couple along with me in the past for a 'day out'. Being double world champion, it's a kick in the teeth that Woffinden doesn't race in his home league. You seem to have been around speedway long enough to know what a draw a world champion can be to a domestic meeting. The chance of seeing the WC in aciton or the chance that one of your second strings, or even (and it's been known) a reserve beating the current world champion is often enough to stick a few extra people through the turnstyles who maybe would have given it a miss otherwise. More revenue for the promotions, making clubs more secure - that's just one way him not racing here could affect British Speedway. on the other hand ,Woffinden could keep bums off seats , it certainly did mine ,end of last season my principles would not let me go to any meeting Woffinden rode in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) on the other hand ,Woffinden could keep bums off seats , it certainly did mine ,end of last season my principles would not let me go to any meeting Woffinden rode in That's the flip side, but had he turned up and been beaten legitimately by a reserve, wouldn't you have wanted to see that? Probably the only thing I remember about Havelock's WC year was him turning up at Reading and being beaten by Phil Morris from reserve. Loved it! But then Havelock was a bit of an arrogant cock too! Edited May 15, 2017 by Wackie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 :rofl: Have you nothing original to say? You have said that a number of times now. I had to explain to you that changing your mind isn't lying - you obviously have a problem understanding English, never mind writing it. As for the rest of your Post - unintelligible claptrap as usual. I don't know what you were taught at School - but it certainly wasn't English. :rofl: We knew you lying because we all knew you were coming back ....it a sad cry for help from someone who quite clearly in need of attention and of course you never let us down ..the same as when you had to change how you voted so someone could be your friend .. the trouble is your so stupid you thought people were as gullible as you clearly are . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 We knew you lying because we all knew you were coming back ....it a sad cry for help from someone who quite clearly in need of attention and of course you never let us down ..the same as when you had to change how you voted so someone could be your friend .. the trouble is your so stupid you thought people were as gullible as you clearly are . Classic Orion... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 We knew you lying because we all knew you were coming back ....it a sad cry for help from someone who quite clearly in need of attention and of course you never let us down ..the same as when you had to change how you voted so someone could be your friend .. the trouble is your so stupid you thought people were as gullible as you clearly are . ME!!! Stupid!!! Read your Post. orion - the gift that keeps on giving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) A few years ago a company SPEDEWORTH MOTORSPORTS annually took a coach load of staff to the GPs at Cardiff. I would assume their staff had more interest in other motor sport rater than speedway? Why did they go to the GP at Cardiff - because it was a community outing. I doubt that many of them actually knew much about the competing riders but probably cheered when the British competitor/competitors were named. And most British supporters attending the GP are NOT there to support British riders but to support the rider/s who race for the club they follow. Now that is a fact. I remember early June 2002 very well, Ryan Sullivan winning at Cardiff. I've never been more animated at a GP than when Ryan hit the front in the final much to the chagrin of the English flag wearing lady on my left (my family were to my right and were just as animated). I was wearing my Panthers' shirt with 'Sullivan' on the back and I couldn't have been happier when he crossed the line in front. My daughter had a Ryan Sullivan banner and she held it up for ages. When we watched the recording the next day her holding that banner was used by Sky as a backdrop when they rolled the credits. Edited May 15, 2017 by Barney Rabbit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) Surely its better to have an article in the paper then to not have one at all? And yes why wouldnt they be interested in going to their local track and watching speedway?? Why would they expect a top world rider to be at their local track? Lets be fair they would only see the worlds best if they went to Swindon and Wolves so why would they assume the world best would ride here? Im disappointed in Tai with the way he looks. Think he looks daft with the tattoos and piercings. As ive said watch the Mark Loram DVD, he explains very very clearly the problems with the BSPA and the way the sport is run and the lack of help for any youngsters coming through. No wonder Tai cant be bothered in the same way Nicholls and Richardson did before him (interesting footnote on Richardson on the Loram DVD!) " Am I disappointed he doesnt ride over here or for Team GB? Hell no. I want him to do whats right for him and his career. I want the Brit to be World Champion. Your Words Gavan Are you for real ? Tell me is there any other genuine British speedway supporter out there on this forum who is not disappointed that Britain's best rider Tai Woffinden does not ride for Team GB. in the World Cup ? You're in a World of your own mate ! Either that or you've been brainwashed Edited May 16, 2017 by New Science 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) We knew you lying because we all knew you were coming back ....it a sad cry for help from someone who quite clearly in need of attention and of course you never let us down ..the same as when you had to change how you voted so someone could be your friend .. the trouble is your so stupid you thought people were as gullible as you clearly are . I enjoy reading many of 'White Knight's' comments unlike some people on here who just 'bark and shout' at those who don't always agree with them. Edited May 16, 2017 by steve roberts 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I enjoy reading many of 'White Knight's' comments unlike some people on here who just 'bark and shout' at those who don't always agree with them. I have had Orion blocked for a while now , he bases all his comments on his own vested interest rather than the actual content , 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 But I guess that you think Jason Doyle is dumb as he is still riding in British Speedway and he should of been the current world champion,maybe you need to have a word with him oh and Chris Holder,they must both be dumb. You support a rider you don't see in your or his own country that must be great ? But I guess that you think Jason Doyle is dumb as he is still riding in British Speedway and he should of been the current world champion,maybe you need to have a word with him oh and Chris Holder,they must both be dumb. You support a rider you don't see in your or his own country that must be great ? If Doyle and Holder don't ride in this country then surely their visa's would be invalid??? And they would get sent home. A few years ago a company SPEDEWORTH MOTORSPORTS annually took a coach load of staff to the GPs at Cardiff. I would assume their staff had more interest in other motor sport rather than speedway? Why did they go to the GP at Cardiff - because it was a community outing. I doubt that many of them actually knew much about the competing riders but probably cheered when the British competitor/competitors were named. And most British supporters attending the GP are NOT there to support British riders but to support the rider/s who race for the club they follow. Tbf they were fan coaches John... couple from East anglia and a couple from spedeworth south. All being speedway fans who attend stock cars also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 A few years ago a company SPEDEWORTH MOTORSPORTS annually took a coach load of staff to the GPs at Cardiff. I would assume their staff had more interest in other motor sport rather than speedway? Why did they go to the GP at Cardiff - because it was a community outing. I doubt that many of them actually knew much about the competing riders but probably cheered when the British competitor/competitors were named. And most British supporters attending the GP are NOT there to support British riders but to support the rider/s who race for the club they follow. Tbf they were fan coaches John... couple from East anglia and a couple from spedeworth south. All being speedway fans who attend stock cars also. Thank you for the update teaboy279. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 This has gone from a debate about the greatest British rider in a generation. To a load of idiots having a arguement trying to force their views on people. If you don't like Tai fine, but to keep recycling the same comments and getting upset when your posts are not receiving multiple likes is pretty pathetic. And for Speedibee to even put Tai in the same sentence as Jimmy Saville of all people really shows what sort of person he is. Seems the Tai haters recycle the same old lines throughout this debate. They try to say the majority of fans no longer support Tai, yet it's only the same 3 or 4 posters that agree. They try to tar tais name, but when you mention Nicholls or #rico had the same issues with the bspa they change the subject. Sounds like a few people on here need a life away from a computer screen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 This has gone from a debate about the greatest British rider in a generation. To a load of idiots having a arguement trying to force their views on people. If you don't like Tai fine, but to keep recycling the same comments and getting upset when your posts are not receiving multiple likes is pretty pathetic. And for Speedibee to even put Tai in the same sentence as Jimmy Saville of all people really shows what sort of person he is. Seems the Tai haters recycle the same old lines throughout this debate. They try to say the majority of fans no longer support Tai, yet it's only the same 3 or 4 posters that agree. They try to tar tais name, but when you mention Nicholls or #rico had the same issues with the bspa they change the subject. Sounds like a few people on here need a life away from a computer screen. haha you come on here calling other people names for doing exactly what you are doing yourself , if you don't like my comparisons between woffindens charity work and Savilles ,tough titty because I dont care , and it scored you no points with anyone else either , if you love Tai so much go give him a big kiss ,don't join a debate and try to force your opinion on everybody else , stop recycling the Tai is British and the best thing since sliced bread , go and get a life away from here yourself you arrogant bully , i can see what sort of person you are, a hypocrite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 haha you come on here calling other people names for doing exactly what you are doing yourself , if you don't like my comparisons between woffindens charity work and Savilles ,tough titty because I dont care , and it scored you no points with anyone else either , if you love Tai so much go give him a big kiss ,don't join a debate and try to force your opinion on everybody else , stop recycling the Tai is British and the best thing since sliced bread , go and get a life away from here yourself you arrogant bully , i can see what sort of person you are, a hypocrite The bitterness. Nobody needs to recycle anything.. Tai IS British. He IS the best British rider and what eats you up so much is that no matter how much you rant wave, spew your xenophobic claptrap, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. 2 x World Speedway Champion and earning hundreds of thousands.. If only he'd followed the Speedibee path to success he could still be riding MDL and blaming the rest of the world for it. " Am I Am i disappointed he doesnt ride over here or for Team GB? Hell no. I want him to do whats right for him and his career. I want the Brit to be World Champion. Your Words Gavan Are you for real ? Tell me is there any other genuine British speedway supporter out there on this forum who is not disappointed that Britain's best rider Tai Woffinden does not ride for Team GB. in the World Cup ? You're in a World of your own mate ! Either that or you've been brainwashed I am disappointed he doesn't ride in the UK however I don't blame him in the slightest. That isn't his issue, that's the issue of the sport here who have chosen to go down this route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 I have had Orion blocked for a while now , he bases all his comments on his own vested interest rather than the actual content , Orion is one of the people on here that i actually have no idea what he likes or dislikes.He generally wants confrontation and is never positive on any issue a crying shame really. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Orion is one of the people on here that i actually have no idea what he likes or dislikes.He generally wants confrontation and is never positive on any issue a crying shame really. I wish the block on here was like on facebook , so even if someone quotes a blocked user I can't see it, although it is mildly amusing , seeing people who are too thick to realise they are blocked still posting replies haha 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The bitterness. Nobody needs to recycle anything.. Tai IS British. He IS the best British rider and what eats you up so much is that no matter how much you rant wave, spew your xenophobic claptrap, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. 2 x World Speedway Champion and earning hundreds of thousands.. If only he'd followed the Speedibee path to success he could still be riding MDL and blaming the rest of the world for it. I am disappointed he doesn't ride in the UK however I don't blame him in the slightest. That isn't his issue, that's the issue of the sport here who have chosen to go down this route. So with tai earning hundreds of thousands then why did he quit team gb ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) I wish the block on here was like on facebook , so even if someone quotes a blocked user I can't see it, although it is mildly amusing , seeing people who are too thick to realise they are blocked still posting replies haha It is a shame speedi that people bother you that much!!!! you dont need to block anybody just dont read there posts end of. Edited May 16, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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