Trees Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Speedway is no ordinary job.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Speedway is no ordinary job.... You're right, there's a much higher chance of risking injury. So you expect him to take on a job with less pay, more hours and increased risk of injury... Ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Why should he ride here? Would you work somewhere for longer hours and a fraction of the pay? If so, criticise all you like. I know the answer though! I didn't say he should but I do have a greater regard for those who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Holder has upset a lot of fans because he was all smiles when he signed for King's Lynn - at a price / package he agreed with and then later belittles that which is on offer. Or was it just for a visa? To then have a loss of form from the off, makes some people believe that it is lack of interest or effort and IF that is the case it IS very disappointing. Human nature to see it that way for some of us. We are told he has off track problems but that is the same for anyone - to keep their job they need to perform as expected . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I didn't say he should but I do have a greater regard for those who do. Whereas I have a greater regard for winners. Do you think Lambert will stick around if he reaches the level Tai is at and British Speedway is still in it's current state? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Whereas I have a greater regard for winners. Do you think Lambert will stick around if he reaches the level Tai is at and British Speedway is still in it's current state? I don't know and this isn't about him. Loram and Havelock were winners too. Lambert still has a way to go and there is no guarantee that Tai would improve things here (I did say that he deserves a try though, as long as it's in sympathy with the current youth set-up). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I don't know and this isn't about him. Loram and Havelock were winners too. Lambert still has a way to go and there is no guarantee that Tai would improve things here (I did say that he deserves a try though, as long as it's in sympathy with the current youth set-up). Loram and Havelock were from completely different eras and in reality, compared to Tai, they were quite a bit below. I've not said he could improve things either.. simply pointing out the hypocrisy/jealousy/idiocy (delete as applicable.. although with some its all three) of having a pop at someone making the right decision for their livelihood. Yes, I would love to see Tai race in Britain but I understand he has to do what is best for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 There are never guarantees, whatever the method and whoever does it. He's a natural, you don't get that many of them, Kenny Carter was one. Lee was the most natural English speedway rider i ever see ride but i do agree about Carter certainly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I don't have a problem with Tai. In every sport, the competitors go where the money is, so I'm not sure why speedway riders should be any different. I hope he goes on and wins many more world titles. If he wants to help train British riders, that would be great. However, just pick up the phone and ask Neil Vatcher how he can help. It doesn't need a press conference or a major announcement. Put the ego away and just dig in and help. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Lee was the most natural English speedway rider i ever see ride but i do agree about Carter certainly. Funny thing, Sid, but I recall Michael Lee and Colin Richardson competing together as 15 year olds at Cowley and Colin looked the better prospect...but, of course, history tells different. I never saw much of Carter but, although a great talent, he always appeared to be riding on the edge...but I guess that's what divides the greats from the also rans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Funny thing, Sid, but I recall Michael Lee and Colin Richardson competing together as 15 year olds at Cowley and Colin looked the better prospect...but, of course, history tells different. I never saw much of Carter but, although a great talent, he always appeared to be riding on the edge...but I guess that's what divides the greats from the also rans? Lee being a NL no 1 at the age of 16 reaching the NLRC will never happen again and the NL was a hard league.Also being able to beat and compete with the likes of Mauger,Olsen, ect) at aged 16/17 a one off just a shame about his career but i was lucky anough to see Michael ride quite alot so i am pleased about that. Edited May 3, 2017 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Lee being a NL no 1 at the age of 16 reaching the NLRC will never happen again and the NL was a hard league.Also being able to beat and compete with the likes of Mauger,Olsen, ect) at aged 16/17 a one off just a shame about his career but i was lucky anough to see quite Michael ride quite alot so i am pleased about that. Got me thinking about other riders I saw ride before they became 'of age' so to speak! I saw Martin Dugard as an 11 or so riding at Eastbourne and Joe Screen at 15 at Brandon together with Paul Dugard (wasted talent!) Alastair Stevens as a 15 year old riding during the interval at Cowley and Alun Rossiter as Swindon's mascot back in the seventies!...I'm sure that there were many others. I got to see quite a bit of Michael Lee, first as a Boston rider, but more so when he moved up with King's Lynn at both Saddlebow Road but more regularly at White City...and when he made his England debut at Wood Lane riding against The Rest of the World. Edited May 3, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 British speedway is a joke and the BSPA's officials should all be signed up by Billy Smart ! This is the reason Tai has turned his back on Britain! I for one do not blame him at all ! He's risking his life every time he goes out on his bike, so why shouldnt he choose when and where he rides ? I'm sure his priority in life is no different to all of the every day working man? and that's to make a decent living! He will always get my support, I appreciate and value watching class riders like Tai! Who gives a monkeys what his image and personality are like? I pay my money to be entertained on the track....not off it ! Roll on Warsaw and I hope for a repeat of 2016 !!! 108 ALL THE WAY !!!!! Let's stick one on the Poles !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madame muck Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Is this for real 😳 I especially like this comment from the Publisher's preview: "His autobiography provides an eye-opening insight into the life of one of speedway's most beloved stars." Edited May 3, 2017 by madame muck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Is this for real I especially like this comment from the Publisher's preview: "His autobiography provides an eye-opening insight into the life of one of speedway's most beloved stars." So is his autobiography the "massive project" that's in the thread title? I see from Amazon it's launched on May 18th. If it is, it kinds of hits all the "want to help British speedway" comments on the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) So is his autobiography the "massive project" that's in the thread title? I see from Amazon it's launched on May 18th. If it is, it kinds of hits all the "want to help British speedway" comments on the head I think you have the correct interpretation of the TW comment Star Lady. It would appear to be the forthcoming book he was hinting at and OP with his message set everyone on the wrong trend. At last! What all TW admirers on this thread have been waiting for: https://johnblakebooks.com/tai-woffinden-hb.html I especially like this comment from the Publisher's preview: "His autobiography provides an eye-opening insight into the life of one of speedway's most beloved stars." Is this for real I especially like this comment from the Publisher's preview: "His autobiography provides an eye-opening insight into the life of one of speedway's most beloved stars." Well publisher John Blake obviously thought so, that's why I brought the comment to attention in my original Post. You like myself, as I am sure others do, question the comment "...one of speedway's most beloved stars..."? Edited May 3, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 I see you are back trying to defend Woffinden. Not many left now wanting to do that but your perogative. Most have seen the way he has treated British speedway with distain and have made their minds up on the guy. And yes you are right, if he turned up at Poole it would certainly P me off, though start to put things right with a return to the country that taught him how to ride a bike. :rofl: You're so wrong, just a handful on here feel the need to go on and on about it. Funny how the dribblers are going after Tai, you gonna write rubbish about #rico as well or Scott. All have/had similar problems with the British hierarchy of speedway and all have made themselves unavailable. Yet Tai is a bit more "street" and has tattoos (which I don't like personally but that's my problem not his) and has used bad language on TV a couple of times. And he is described as a Yobbo or a foreigner. Tai is very approachable, has anyone slagging him off on here actually had the balls to go ask him that his gripes are? I have asked him and could not disagree with any of his points made. Tai is willing to invest money, time, and expertise on young brits but rather then support Tai or even just let him get on with it off his own back. They want him to jump through hoops it seems. Great post there fella 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 British speedway is a joke and the BSPA's officials should all be signed up by Billy Smart ! This is the reason Tai has turned his back on Britain! I for one do not blame him at all ! He's risking his life every time he goes out on his bike, so why shouldnt he choose when and where he rides ? I'm sure his priority in life is no different to all of the every day working man? and that's to make a decent living! He will always get my support, I appreciate and value watching class riders like Tai! Who gives a monkeys what his image and personality are like? I pay my money to be entertained on the track....not off it ! Roll on Warsaw and I hope for a repeat of 2016 !!! 108 ALL THE WAY !!!!! Let's stick one on the Poles !!! Sounds to me more like you want to be associated with a successful rider rather than "be entertained on the track" There's more entertaining riders than Woffinden, even if they are less successful There were more entertaining riders than Mauger and Olsen, but less successful There have been discussions on the forum regarding entertaining riders, and I doubt that "108" comes near the top Just my observation I concede, however, that you're entitled to your opinion - same as everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Sounds to me more like you want to be associated with a successful rider rather than "be entertained on the track" There's more entertaining riders than Woffinden, even if they are less successful There were more entertaining riders than Mauger and Olsen, but less successful There have been discussions on the forum regarding entertaining riders, and I doubt that "108" comes near the top Just my observation I concede, however, that you're entitled to your opinion - same as everyone You put your point across well....and I accept that there are more entertaining riders, but if you read my post back, it says 'CLASS' riders ? which most definitely Tai is !!! So, it leads me to say that if there was a discussion about class riders then Tai WOULD most definitely be at the top IMO !!! And FYI I follow Birmingham in the National League and have done for 47 years.....so DONT question my association !!! My loyalty is to SPEEDWAY and not to success ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Funny how the dribblers are going after Tai, you gonna write rubbish about #rico as well or Scott. All have/had similar problems with the British hierarchy of speedway and all have made themselves unavailable. Yet Tai is a bit more "street" and has tattoos (which I don't like personally but that's my problem not his) and has used bad language on TV a couple of times. And he is described as a Yobbo or a foreigner. Tai is very approachable, has anyone slagging him off on here actually had the balls to go ask him that his gripes are? I have asked him and could not disagree with any of his points made. Tai is willing to invest money, time, and expertise on young brits but rather then support Tai or even just let him get on with it off his own back. They want him to jump through hoops it seems. Tai's appearance isn't why people don't like him! He is just arrogant and comes across as a bit of a **** tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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