False dawn Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I'd say junior grasstrack was a much bigger feeder system back then... ..... a level playing field... I feel it's so much harder for a youngster today to break through and then after getting a UK team place there is so much further to go still.. There is still a good grasstrack opportunity for youngsters to learn their trade. Low cost racing. And most grasstracks I raced on were far from level. Youngsters who can race that, don't complain at the odd bump or rut when they get on the speedways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 So where is all the info on Woffinden working with youngsters? Link? Fair comment Steve Shover - you pose a question that's very much in need of an answer. Much is being made of TW's involvement with British speedway youth development. However, nobody appears able to produce an official statement in regard to this and what his role is to be. Is there a Link available giving this information? I am not only the Poster who has requested this. Why are we still waiting for answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Makes you wonder how the likes of PC Havy mike lee Mark loram Lee richardson Scott nicholls all got to the top with no significant help then..A different era different league in the 70/80s we were top dogs all the best like Penhall had to come here to ride look what we have now a crying shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Why are we still waiting for answers? Perhaps nobody knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 So where is all the info on Woffinden working with youngsters? Link? Fair comment Steve Shover - you pose a question that's very much in need of an answer. The first word in my opening post was Hopefully, Tai tweeted his "massive project has been given the green light" as of yet we can only speculate what the green light was given for, but hopefully it will be to help develop our speedway to the next level. Of course it could be something completely different, we should find out soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 The first word in my opening post was Hopefully, Tai tweeted his "massive project has been given the green light" as of yet we can only speculate what the green light was given for, but hopefully it will be to help develop our speedway to the next level. Of course it could be something completely different, we should find out soon. Not that soon, that Tweet is five days old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) The first word in my opening post was Hopefully, Tai tweeted his "massive project has been given the green light" as of yet we can only speculate what the green light was given for, but hopefully it will be to help develop our speedway to the next level. Of course it could be something completely different, we should find out soon. Perhaps if you had also explained that your comment was based on a Twitter Tweet much of the ensuing uncertainty could have been avoided from the start? However, your latest Post does end the need for constant calls as to an explanation. Odd though that the Tweet sender has made such a comment - a few days ago - yet nothing has emanated on the SGB website in regard to him. Yet there has been quite a few comments on the website in regard to youth speedway. Not that soon, that Tweet is five days old. Well said foamfence. Edited April 30, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Surely we are all unhappy and disappointed when our stand out No.1 rider is at odds with the ruling body to the extent he chooses not to ride for Team GB. Time for reconciliation? Certainly the sport in this country needs all the help it can get. Be it on the World stage or helping to develop young riders for the future. Maybe Tai isn't the easiest guy to work with but is that a reason to walk away (by either party). As a fan and English, I follow Tai's riding with interest. As to the rest, I don't know the full facts and therefore don't pass judgement avbsobloodylutely not . sod Tai woffinden BSPA wont bow to his demands so he spits the dummy and wont ride for GB , good riddance ,who needs him to train the next generation to be scruffy selfish bigheaded tramps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Perhaps if you had also explained that your comment was based on a Twitter Tweet much of the ensuing uncertainty could have been avoided from the start? However, your latest Post does end the need for constant calls as to an explanation. Odd though that the Tweet sender has made such a comment - a few days ago - yet nothing has emanated on the SGB website in regard to him. Yet there has been quite a few comments on the website in regard to youth speedway. As I am not a regular on Twitter, I only read about it yesterday, I couldn't see a topic on here about it so I started one. As you now acknowledge my reply to your post has cleared up any need for explanation, I was hoping for a decent topic where posters could/would give their opinions on Tai's tweet. The usual culprits are the ones to throw spanners in the works though. The first word in my opening post was Hopefully, Tai tweeted his "massive project has been given the green light" as of yet we can only speculate what the green light was given for, but hopefully it will be to help develop our speedway to the next level. Of course it could be something completely different, we should find out when he/they are good and ready to inform us. Happy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Perhaps if you had also explained that your comment was based on a Twitter Tweet much of the ensuing uncertainty could have been avoided from the start? However, your latest Post does end the need for constant calls as to an explanation. Odd though that the Tweet sender has made such a comment - a few days ago - yet nothing has emanated on the SGB website in regard to him. Yet there has been quite a few comments on the website in regard to youth speedway. Well said foamfence. Maybe it has nothing to do with British Speedway.. a massive project might be something completely outside of speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Maybe it has nothing to do with British Speedway.. a massive project might be something completely outside of speedway Indeed it could well be phillipsr. Edited April 30, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 He can't be arsed to ride here.British final no good.Team GB no good.Jog on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 To all those Woffinden detractors out there, and there are a few, would you say that Tai has been well treated by British Speedway or badly treated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 To all those Woffinden detractors out there, and there are a few, would you say that Tai has been well treated by British Speedway or badly treated? Think he went from a nobody to somebody for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Think he went from a nobody to somebody for sure That doesn't really answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 I'd say junior grasstrack was a much bigger feeder system back then...the likes of Collins and later were all well known young grasstrackers..it was a huge feeder system Plus the Belle Vue trying school..other tracks with significantly more practice time available than today....and the fact that the European leagues were not what they were today..to be a top rider you had to race here..so there were team spots against the best immediately available on a level playing field... I feel it's so much harder for a youngster today to break through and then after getting a UK team place there is so much further to go still.. Bruiser in that period what aload of virtual novices came through to start there careers,at the likes of Romford.Chris/Dave Morton, Pc, Wilko, Broadbelt,Hiftle,Pusey ( with the spots) Eyre,and endless others as you said some had grasstrack and moto cross experience as well.Was that Belle Vue training day with Oliver on a Saturday ? 10 to 6 or something like that i know a couple of people who attended it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Bruiser in that period what aload of virtual novices came through to start there careers,at the likes of Romford.Chris/Dave Morton, Pc, Wilko, Broadbelt,Hiftle,Pusey ( with the spots) Eyre,and endless others as you said some had grasstrack and moto cross experience as well.Was that Belle Vue training day with Oliver on a Saturday ? 10 to 6 or something like that i know a couple of people who attended it. Also the Kent Grasstrack scene supplied a lot of riders particularly at Eastbourne (Jessup, Kennetts etc) where Arthur Nutley took a great interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Also the Kent Grasstrack scene supplied a lot of riders particularly at Eastbourne (Jessup, Kennetts etc) where Arthur Nutley took a great interest. Were they the days of local land owners being able to do what they wanted on there land? i believe Kenny Carter's wealthy dad had land and Kenny practiced alot there.I can also remember Swindon speedway having a training day with the legend Broady which was a sucess and helped the likes of Barry Duke.My friend also told me Briggo once turned up with a bike on the back did some training and laps around the huge car park and there was a huge crowd there different days eh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Anyone who thinks tai should be involved in helping British youngsters are off their rocker. Tai is a liability to youngsters and it's clear he doesn't care about British speedway or British fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Were they the days of local land owners being able to do what they wanted on there land? i believe Kenny Carter's wealthy dad had land and Kenny practiced alot there.I can also remember Swindon speedway having a training day with the legend Broady which was a sucess and helped the likes of Barry Duke.My friend also told me Briggo once turned up with a bike on the back did some training and laps around the huge car park and there was a huge crowd there different days eh! The Collins and Morton brothers and the likes of Dave Trownson used to ride on farmland, if I recall, and Ainsdale Sands was another opportunity for budding young riders (Peter Craven for example)...very different era back then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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