Guest Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) ...I enjoy taking threads off topic! ...and you seem to be seeing your wish fulfilled? Can we go off topic and talk about who was the better rider Briggo or Ove or is that not aloud WK.?? ...and your wish has also been fulfilled. The matter you raised brought forward some excellent comments. Now I have one - it concerns Long Track racing. Who was the better rider: Basse Hveem (Norway) mainly in the 1950s, or in later years Egon Muller (Germany)? Edited May 1, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 ...and you seem to be seeing your wish fulfilled? ...and your wish has also been fulfilled. The matter you raised brought forward some excellent comments. Now I have one - it concerns Long Track racing. Who was the better rider: Basse Hveem (Norway) mainly in the 1950s, or in later years Egon Muller (Germany)? Maier, could he be mentioned? Aside from the merits of great riders in the mid-1950s to mid-1960s, how does the 'best team' aspect of this era come into focus. By and large, IMO that the honour can only go to Wimbledon. They seemingly won everything there was to offer in that period, being well served by riders like Ronnie Moore, Barry Briggs, Geoff Mardon, Ron How and others of top calibre.Briggs has been noted as a poor team rider (Selfish mentioned) Mirac i know was a great team rider how does Ove,Craven rate on that question team riding skills.?Indeed, Sidney. We should also add Fred Williams to the early 50s. Two World Championship wins plus one runner-up spot. Can't be bad!Often forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Maier, could he be mentioned? Of course he could Sid.One of the greats.Hofmeister in the 50s won 3 European titles and finished behind Hveem for silver on another occasion Then you had Poschenreider who also won 3 titles on the trot.He also finished behind Ivan twice Then came what was really the great era for Longtrack Egon,Maier,Wiggy,Tatum and Barth all winning multiple titles.Even recently Joonas Kylmäkorpi doing what no other rider has ever managed and winning 4 titles in a row.But i think any fair commentator would say the scene nowadays isn't any where near as strong as it used to be But all in all can we say that Gerd Riss winning an amazing 8 titles from 1991 to 2009 puts him at the very top?He was also quite a decent speedway rider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Of course he could Sid.One of the greats.Hofmeister in the 50s won 3 European titles and finished behind Hveem for silver on another occasion Then you had Poschenreider who also won 3 titles on the trot.He also finished behind Ivan twice Then came what was really the great era for Longtrack Egon,Maier,Wiggy,Tatum and Barth all winning multiple titles.Even recently Joonas Kylmäkorpi doing what no other rider has ever managed and winning 4 titles in a row.But i think any fair commentator would say the scene nowadays isn't any where near as strong as it used to be But all in all can we say that Gerd Riss winning an amazing 8 titles from 1991 to 2009 puts him at the very top?He was also quite a decent speedway rider You could and his son has also done a great job, dont know what you think both are good but i always thought Mark would make a better speedway rider than Erik.?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Briggs has been noted as a poor team rider (Selfish mentioned) Mirac i know was a great team rider how does Ove,Craven rate on that question team riding skills? Fundin didn't know the meaning of the phrase team riding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Fundin didn't know the meaning of the phrase team riding! Maybe if someone had explained it in old Saxon he might have understood?Just saying like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Fundin didn't know the meaning of the phrase team riding!Did he always nab the best gate? there was a sarcastic mention of this by a young Jessup he said riding with Ove was like riding another away rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Maybe if someone had explained it in old Saxon he might have understood?Just saying like Well I couldn't do it. I could have explained in old English though. Did he always nab the best gate? there was a sarcastic mention of this by a young Jessup he said riding with Ove was like riding another away rider. Yes, I think there are many Norwich riders who would agree with the young Jessup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Take a trip 'Down Memory Lane' in regard to the various magazines that have covered speedway over the years. Click on image for more information in regard to the publication. https://www.speedwayfiction.co.uk/speedwaymagazines.html Weekly magazines not listed are: Broadsider, Speedway Reporter. There were also Monthly publications: Monthly Speedway Star, Monthly Speedway World, Monthly Speedway Reporter. Plus: Vintage Speedway Magazine, Classic Speedway, Backtrack. ::: Did any BSF Poster read any of these magazines - include the 'Speedway Star'. If so, which of them and what were their good and bad points? What I remember most about the Broadsider was its excellent winter coverage of racing in Australia. I think that its publishing years were from 1946 until the end of the 1950 season. The Speedway World also had excellent Australian coverage as I remember for the years 1947 to 1958 when it then turned more of its publishing focus to stock car racing. Edited May 1, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Wasn't there a speedway/ice hockey magazine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Wasn't there a speedway/ice hockey magazine? That's an interesting point iris123. I recall that in the speedway close season Speedway News, Speedway Gazette, Speedway Star and I am fairly certain Speedway World also covered ice hockey in that sport's season. In the ice hockey season some of the speedway magazines added the word ICE to their titles. I also think there was 'a solo' ice hockey magazine in the late 1940s early 1950s period. I believe its title was 'Ice Hockey World' and have a vague - extremely - memory that it came from the same publisher as 'Speedway World'. Edited May 1, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Now you're both going off subject and talking about Speedway Magazines Over The Years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Take a trip 'Down Memory Lane' in regard to the various magazines that have covered speedway over the years. Click on image for more information in regard to the publication. https://www.speedwayfiction.co.uk/speedwaymagazines.html Weekly magazines not listed are: Broadsider, Speedway Reporter. There were also Monthly publications: Monthly Speedway Star, Monthly Speedway World, Monthly Speedway Reporter. Plus: Vintage Speedway Magazine, Classic Speedway, Backtrack. ::: Did any BSF Poster read any of these magazines - include the 'Speedway Star'. If so, which of them and what were their good and bad points? There could have been other speedway magazines in the pre-WW2 era, for the years 1928-39? Additionally, pre-WW2 the 'trade press' both The Motorcycle and Motor Cycling gave extensive coverage to speedway racing. And in more recent times, Motorcycle News has given speedway a lot of publicity - especially in that golden era of the 1960s when the task was so brilliantly handled by the late Peter Arnold. I have had this Link forwarded to me in regard to the correct name of Peter Arnold: http://www.defunctsp...n part four.htm Edited May 1, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) I seem to recall from the start of the 1947 a magazine titled 'Speedway'which lasted for only about six issues. It was owned and edited by, again from memory, a journalist names Ken Wheeler. It was priced for just threepence, and was only eight unstapled pages. In size the pages were also half that of the other speedway magazines of the period. I doubt very much if any other followers of this thread recall the publication - it was 70 years ago. Edited May 2, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) That's an interesting point iris123. I recall that in the speedway close season Speedway News, Speedway Gazette, Speedway Star and I am fairly certain Speedway World also covered ice hockey in that sport's season. In the ice hockey season some of the speedway magazines added the word ICE to their titles. I also think there was 'a solo' ice hockey magazine in the late 1940s early 1950s period. I believe its title was 'Ice Hockey World' and have a vague - extremely - memory that it came from the same publisher as 'Speedway World'. For a list of UK Ice Hockey mags try - http://www.ihjuk.co.uk/magazines.html I used to get the Speedway Star in the 'summer' and Ice Hockey News in the 'winter'. Interesting to see the editor of the Ice Hockey News in the period 2000-2002 When he was at Reading I never rated Jessup as a team man (so maybe he got some ideas from Fundin ?) Edited May 2, 2017 by compost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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