StevePark Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Steve Park - I did make it clear that the 32,000 figure was MY ESTIMATE. It was based on how many tracks there are and each having an average of around 1,000 spectators at home meetings. I fail to see your reaction to what I made clear was little better than a guesstimate on my part! In other words, a figure plucked out of thin air. I think, as has already (kind of) been suggested, you should actually visit some tracks and see with your own eyes how many people are actually attending speedway these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 That sounds like a reasonable guesstimate of average attendance across the three leagues of 700 per match. Of course it is a guesstimate because there are no published figures and even the Chairman of the BSPA questions the value of figures being quoted. At his track there has been a slow downward erosion of the crowd - noticeably so over the last three or four years. Yes, It is still a guess but when you can see several areas of the stadium devoid of people, where once fans were present, then something is missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Sprocket Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 That sounds like a reasonable guesstimate of average attendance across the three leagues of 700 per match. Of course it is a guesstimate because there are no published figures and even the Chairman of the BSPA questions the value of figures being quoted. At his track there has been a slow downward erosion of the crowd - noticeably so over the last three or four years. Yes, It is still a guess but when you can see several areas of the stadium devoid of people, where once fans were present, then something is missing. Any chance of a link to where the chairman stated this? It would be interesting to know his thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 I am unable to provide a link but it was during his video broadcast well before the season ( intended to be live - on Facebook? ) It was also printed in the SS following that video ( a lengthy article ) . I am unable to provide a link as my computer technical skills are basic. My apologies, but it was said and printed, it is not an urban myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) How many fans are there regularly attending speedway matches ( who pay to get in ) in the UK? Is it more than or less that 50,000 do you think? I don't think it can be over 50,000 across the whole UK. My estimate of overall weekly TOTAL speedway attendances would be towards 32,000. In other words, a figure plucked out of thin air. That's why the figures given by myself were clarified as estimates/guesstimates. A point you appear to have a problem understanding Steve Park. Another Poster in this thread gave an estimate/guesstimate of 50,000 - far more than my estimate/guesstimate of 32,000 yet had no criticism made of his comment. Why target my lower figure? And there are good reasons too why I am UNABLE to attend speedway - or any sports events for that matter - these days. Edited May 27, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 That's why the figures given by myself were clarified as estimates/guesstimates. A point you appear to have a problem understanding Steve Park. Another Poster in this thread gave an estimate/guesstimate of 50,000 - far more than my estimate/guesstimate of 32,000 yet had no criticism made of his comment. Why target my lower figure? And there are good reasons too why I am UNABLE to attend speedway - or any sports events for that matter - these days. Mainly because I didn't see it. And to resort to the icon towards me is hardly going to help your argument. I've attended 12 matches this season and maybe, just maybe there was 1,000 at just the one of them (but I doubt there was 1,000 there, I say more like 800). Otherwise they range from about 350 to about 600 in the other 11. That's in the SGB Championship. Granted that was the week I was there and don't know what the attendance was like the week before or after, except in the 6 home matches I've attended, but it gives you a rough idea of attendances in that league. All I'm saying is to know (roughly) how many are attending, is to be there (you might not be able to tell on the TV due to camera angles etc.) and do a rough head count yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 And there are good reasons too why I am UNABLE to attend speedway - or any sports events for that matter - these days. Not really sure if there is a big difference in sitting in a restaurant,which you say you do on a weekly basis and sitting in a speedway stadium.Is it down to the quality of the seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Not really sure if there is a big difference in sitting in a restaurant,which you say you do on a weekly basis and sitting in a speedway stadium.Is it down to the quality of the seats? Perhaps he's banned from speedway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) And there are good reasons too why I am UNABLE to attend speedway - or any sports events for that matter - these days. Not really sure if there is a big difference in sitting in a restaurant,which you say you do on a weekly basis and sitting in a speedway stadium.Is it down to the quality of the seats? Perhaps he's banned from speedway! More nonsensical comments but I'll try to answer: (1) iris123 - because of my age, and because the nearest tracks are at least 25 miles from where i live. I have to rely on public transport and using this late at night can sometimes prove to be rather daunting and possibly a safety risk. (2) iris123 - the restaurant I attend - virtually on a daily basis - is because I would have to do my own meal preparation, with all the cooking involved, then the cleaning up afterwards. By using the restaurant I am absolved from those tasks and can also read several daily newspapers that are made available. (3) Steve Park - more nonsensical drivel. I don't what I have done to upset him but I am far from being 'banned from speedway.' I am in regular contact with several promotions and have been for many years - they co-operate with me in regard to ensuring publicity for their tracks/teams both on forums like this and also on several FACEBOOK groups. Edited May 27, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 More nonsensical comments but I'll try to answer: (1) iris123 - because of my age, and because the nearest tracks are at least 25 miles from where i live. I have to rely on public transport and using this late at night can sometimes prove to be rather daunting and possibly a safety risk. (2) iris123 - the restaurant I attend - virtually on a daily basis - is because I would have to do my own meal preparation, with all the cooking involved, then the cleaning up afterwards. By using the restaurant I am absolved from those tasks and can also read several daily newspapers that are made available. (3) Steve Park - more nonsensical drivel. I don't what I have done to upset him but I am far from being 'banned from speedway.' I am in regular contact with several promotions and have been for many years - they co-operate with me in regard to ensuring publicity for their tracks/teams both on forums like this and also on several FACEBOOK groups. So, again, the icon to back up your non-existent argument, choosing to totally ignore the and icons I posted, to show that it was a tongue in cheek comment and therefore not to be taken seriously. Well done. I have given (rough) figures to the attendances of matches I've attended. By the end of the week (weather permitting) that figure of 12 matches attended will become 15. I will update on the approximate attendances at Scunthorpe and Ipswich after I've been, to, hopefully, help the thread. Something, unfortunately (and yes, I mean that in sincerity), you are unable to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Has it always been like this on the Speedway Forum? There seems to be a dwindling attendance on here as well as at speedway matches live. There is so much immediate, dismissive hostility on even the most innocent of topics. I had hoped that by asking an innocent ( i.e. no hidden agenda ) question I would get other fans opinions. A lot of these responses would result in a punch up down the pub, so do some posters on here project their more aggressive selves because there are no ( or almost no consequences ) and they can say what they want in the way they want ( and would not do in real life ?). Or is just sad reflection on modern life? And before someone else threatens to 'deck me", you really could almost knock me down with a feather. So, again, the icon to back up your non-existent argument, choosing to totally ignore the and icons I posted, to show that it was a tongue in cheek comment and therefore not to be taken seriously. Well done. I have given (rough) figures to the attendances of matches I've attended. By the end of the week (weather permitting) that figure of 12 matches attended will become 15. I will update on the approximate attendances at Scunthorpe and Ipswich after I've been, to, hopefully, help the thread. Something, unfortunately (and yes, I mean that in sincerity), you are unable to do. Please do continue to post your estimates as some posters on here are interested. I can now only get to one track due to age and infirmity ( and that is due to the kindness of a fellow fan who gives me a lift ). It doesn't stop me having an interest in the bigger picture and an opion on the sport in general. Having been a fan at Norwich since the early 50's it is a hard habit to break away from ( like all habits ). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Sprocket Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 More nonsensical comments but I'll try to answer: (1) iris123 - because of my age, and because the nearest tracks are at least 25 miles from where i live. I have to rely on public transport and using this late at night can sometimes prove to be rather daunting and possibly a safety risk. We are told time and time again how friendly and good natured speedway supporters are even to rivals so why is this "goodwill" not shown (with an occasional lift to the track) to a supporter who has difficulty attending his beloved sport? Instead he endures constant hostility. I don't know gustix from Adam but I am sure someone will enlighten me with, no doubt, more hostility against him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 We are told time and time again how friendly and good natured speedway supporters are even to rivals so why is this "goodwill" not shown (with an occasional lift to the track) to a supporter who has difficulty attending his beloved sport? Instead he endures constant hostility. I don't know gustix from Adam but I am sure someone will enlighten me with, no doubt, more hostility against him. Well said Skid. :approve: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) While everybody is guesstimating Attendances this season you can bet that you will be lucky if ANY TRACK has improved theirs on what they were a few seasons ago. Ps Possible exception Glasgow Tigers Edited May 27, 2017 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Sprocket Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 While everybody is guesstimating Attendances this season you can bet that you will be lucky if ANY TRACK has improved theirs on what they were a few seasons ago. Ps Possible exception Glasgow Tigers Redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Redcar RedcarIm talking about afew seasons ago.I can remember when Redcar had decent crowds even comparing to this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 In other words, a figure plucked out of thin air. I think, as has already (kind of) been suggested, you should actually visit some tracks and see with your own eyes how many people are actually attending speedway these days. So by attending a meeting, you will come away with an accurate attendance figure? What do you do, count them all? What about all the younger fans who generally spend the meeting on the move, how do you know if you've double or treble counted them - or missed them completely? If attendances are in the range of 300 to 500, missing out or double counting 50 would be a large percentage error You still talking tosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Sprocket Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) 50 to 23 in favour of publicising accurate figures. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=84163&hl Edited May 27, 2017 by Skid Sprocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 So by attending a meeting, you will come away with an accurate attendance figure? What do you do, count them all? What about all the younger fans who generally spend the meeting on the move, how do you know if you've double or treble counted them - or missed them completely? If attendances are in the range of 300 to 500, missing out or double counting 50 would be a large percentage error You still talking tosh! Where in my post do I use the word accurately? I don't. I said roughly.... So, again, the icon to back up your non-existent argument, choosing to totally ignore the and icons I posted, to show that it was a tongue in cheek comment and therefore not to be taken seriously. Well done. I have given (rough) figures to the attendances of matches I've attended. By the end of the week (weather permitting) that figure of 12 matches attended will become 15. I will update on the approximate attendances at Scunthorpe and Ipswich after I've been, to, hopefully, help the thread. Something, unfortunately (and yes, I mean that in sincerity), you are unable to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Skid Sprocket............I don't know gustix from Adam but I am sure someone will enlighten me with, no doubt, more hostility against him. Stick around and read his posts and you'll no doubt eventually realise why he gets these hostile responses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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