Skid Sprocket Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Stick around and read his posts and you'll no doubt eventually realise why he gets these hostile responses. Sorry but I haven't seen anything worse from gustix than anyone else, maybe you could give an example of his wrong doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) Have been to 2 Swindon home matches this year 2000 plus attendances, and saw Swindon at Zummerrzet a Rebels fan said over 1000 there. The Robins have always been one of the best supported clubs in speedway home and away along with Belle Vue Poole Wolves and the unfortunate Cov Bees. If the weather is ok on Bank Holiday Monday should be another 2000 plus crowd for the West Country derby against The Rebels. Would say like a lot of clubs over the last 10 years they have lost about a third of their fan base through ever weakening line-ups. Edited May 27, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 Sorry but I haven't seen anything worse from gustix than anyone else, maybe you could give an example of his wrong doing. He's a bona fide bampot, end of. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=78799 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) Sorry but I haven't seen anything worse from gustix than anyone else, maybe you could give an example of his wrong doing. I've got him on ignore so can't give any recent examples and I'm not trawling through the archives because I'd only get irritated and that's not a good idea just before bedtime. That's life ~ some people on here find that Gavan, Steve Shovlar or Stevebrum annoy them (to give 3 examples of others who sometimes get hostile replies) but others don't. Those that receive hostile responses often attract them and are quite capable of giving as good as they get. Like I said ~ stick around and see how things go. I'm sure you've got a higher tolerance level than me as I have to watch my blood pressure. Edited May 28, 2017 by Gemini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) So by attending a meeting, you will come away with an accurate attendance figure? What do you do, count them all? What about all the younger fans who generally spend the meeting on the move, how do you know if you've double or treble counted them - or missed them completely? If attendances are in the range of 300 to 500, missing out or double counting 50 would be a large percentage error You still talking tosh! Based upon my experience I think his figures are just about right, if a little on the low side. I'd be the first to accept that any crowd counting I do is estimated but I was, quite literally, 1 out in a recent head count. Also based upon my experience, Rye House's gate was at least double the biggest I have ever seen there. Isle of Wight's was double the previous year and Redcar's was up too (now confirmed by the promotion). Sheffield's have increased and Belle Vue's are still way, way more than Kirky Lane attendances. Peterborough's had noticeably gone up. Scunthorpe's remain very low - about 400 maximum, Workington's simply aren't enough (which is a real shame given good racing and an attractive team) and Berwick's have crashed. Edited May 28, 2017 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Based upon my experience I think his figures are just about right, if a little on the low side. I'd be the first to accept that any crowd counting I do is estimated but I was, quite literally, 1 out in a recent head count. Also based upon my experience, Rye House's gate was at least double the biggest I have ever seen there. Isle of Wight's was double the previous year and Redcar's was up too (now confirmed by the promotion). Sheffield's have increased and Belle Vue's are still way, way more than Kirky Lane attendances. Peterborough's had noticeably gone up. Scunthorpe's remain very low - about 400 maximum, Workington's simply aren't enough (which is a real shame given good racing and an attractive team) and Berwick's have crashed. This is a really encouraging response in regard to attendances Halifaxtiger. We must hope that the trend continues and that the all-important factor in regard to attracting spectators to not only speedway but all sports events continues, and that we have a good summer weatherise. You do raise concerns in regard to Scunthorpe, Workington and Berwick. Hopefully a spell of good weather and some close racing will see attendance upturns at these venues. Edited May 28, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Sprocket Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) He's a bona fide bampot, end of. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=78799 I still don't see a problem although the topic is very confusing with what looks like missing posts. Not sure if calling a member a "Bampot" is within the rules of this forum? Edited May 28, 2017 by Skid Sprocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Based upon my experience I think his figures are just about right, if a little on the low side. I'd be the first to accept that any crowd counting I do is estimated but I was, quite literally, 1 out in a recent head count. Also based upon my experience, Rye House's gate was at least double the biggest I have ever seen there. Isle of Wight's was double the previous year and Redcar's was up too (now confirmed by the promotion). Sheffield's have increased and Belle Vue's are still way, way more than Kirky Lane attendances. Peterborough's had noticeably gone up. Scunthorpe's remain very low - about 400 maximum, Workington's simply aren't enough (which is a real shame given good racing and an attractive team) and Berwick's have crashed. 1 out, you forgot to count yourself! I get the Swindon figures from chatting to sponsor and staff and stewards, they're never the same figure!I can get a rough figure from number of cars in car park, not interested in exact amount. Car park holds 1100, when full would mean at least double that number inside stadium. Don't know why Worky crowds are so low, they averaged 1200 when I went in 2004/5? Something wrong there. Are Glasgow getting more than 1000, probably the only club in that league that are? Edited May 28, 2017 by beefy keefy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Workington attendance last night was very poor, probably not helped by the GP on tv, Bank holiday weekend and maybe other sporting events such as the FA cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Workington attendance last night was very poor, probably not helped by the GP on tv, Bank holiday weekend and maybe other sporting events such as the FA cup?Did you go in the Steady/Stoney days,always well-supported, they hosted the Fours in 2004/5, had crowds of 2500, same for the Stoney testimonial, when Steady beat Leigh Adams in race-off.Do they still have the fans peering over the fence bends 3-4? Edited May 28, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Sure did, been going there since 1978 when attendances were even worse....about 300 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Sure did, been going there since 1978 when attendances were even worse....about 300 people. My cousin from Aspatria went to the first meeting in 1970, she said a few thousand got in free walking over a pipe on the River Derwent, the following meeting the pipe was greased and loads fell in! Remember the mascot Gromet the Comet, Mystic Mel, and the mouthy guy who used to stand up at the front, was later shot dead in the massacre. The 3 streakers at the Fours, hilarious! Some good times, got me back into speedway after a 30 year break. Shame they're struggling to attract fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 I still don't see a problem although the topic is very confusing with what looks like missing posts. It's confusing because gustix obviously removed/hid all of his posts, although you can still see some of the quotes. I wouldn't bother trying to make sense of it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Workington attendance last night was very poor, probably not helped by the GP on tv, Bank holiday weekend and maybe other sporting events such as the FA cup? Weather didn't help either. Travelling up with Hoggy, we hit a thunderstorm near Penrith, it was still raining at Cockermouth and forecasts were for heavy rain in Workington at 7pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Weather didn't help either. Travelling up with Hoggy, we hit a thunderstorm near Penrith, it was still raining at Cockermouth and forecasts were for heavy rain in Workington at 7pm. Typical Cumbrian weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Weather didn't help either. Travelling up with Hoggy, we hit a thunderstorm near Penrith, it was still raining at Cockermouth and forecasts were for heavy rain in Workington at 7pm. Yes it was raining heavily when I set off and I'm 10 miles from the track but dry in Workington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 We are told time and time again how friendly and good natured speedway supporters are even to rivals so why is this "goodwill" not shown (with an occasional lift to the track) to a supporter who has difficulty attending his beloved sport? Instead he endures constant hostility. I don't know gustix from Adam but I am sure someone will enlighten me with, no doubt, more hostility against him. Well said Skid. :approve: Stick around and read his posts and you'll no doubt eventually realise why he gets these hostile responses. Sorry but I haven't seen anything worse from gustix than anyone else, maybe you could give an example of his wrong doing. He's a bona fide bampot, end of. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=78799 I've got him on ignore so can't give any recent examples and I'm not trawling through the archives because I'd only get irritated and that's not a good idea just before bedtime. That's life ~ some people on here find that Gavan, Steve Shovlar or Stevebrum annoy them (to give 3 examples of others who sometimes get hostile replies) but others don't. Those that receive hostile responses often attract them and are quite capable of giving as good as they get. Like I said ~ stick around and see how things go. I'm sure you've got a higher tolerance level than me as I have to watch my blood pressure. I still don't see a problem although the topic is very confusing with what looks like missing posts. Not sure if calling a member a "Bampot" is within the rules of this forum? It's confusing because gustix obviously removed/hid all of his posts, although you can still see some of the quotes. I wouldn't bother trying to make sense of it though. These thread comments seem to be attracting a lot of interest. Just to recap: I suppose for want of better terminology that daveallan81 came forward with a previous discussion http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=78799 involving myself. Sadly, I suppose because a through enough check was not made by him in regard to it, there are plenty of quotes from other members but no sign of what I had fully and originally posted. As has been subsequently commented upon by other Posters, this is because on the original thread I had placed any comments by myself on HIDE. The sad thing is that those quotes are mainly just edited sections from an original comment tat I made - hence the reason they are, one must presuppose, nonsensical because the original message text is no longer visible in the thread. I note there also references by other Posters that they have placed me on IGNORE. But that facility again is not all that it would appear to be. When one places another BSF member on IGNORE, the Post made does not appear in the messages they receive in original form. However, one still receives a message from the BSF to advise that a Post has been made by the member who is on IGNORE, and that it is possible to view that message if required! Human nature and temptation being what it is, it needs a cast-iron will not to be tempted into finding out what was posted. At the end of the day, the recall of the thread by daveallan81 has apart from letting him feel he has made a major contribution to the current thread achieves nothing in giving Skid Sprockett the answers that he probably/possibly sought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) gustix post.... As has been subsequently commented upon by other Posters, this is because on the original thread I had placed any comments by myself on HIDE. The sad thing is that those quotes are mainly just edited sections from an original comment tat I made - hence the reason they are, one must presuppose, nonsensical because the original message text is no longer visible in the thread. At the end of the day, the recall of the thread by daveallan81 has apart from letting him feel he has made a major contribution to the current thread achieves nothing in giving Skid Sprockett the answers that he probably/possibly sought? Is there no way you can let people see those posts you chose to put on HIDE?Then it would all make sense and people might get the answer they seek. Edited May 28, 2017 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 Il admit I've had a couple of pints here on the sunny iow but this thread seems to have slipped into another reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Il admit I've had a couple of pints here on the sunny iow but this thread seems to have slipped into another reality The problem as I see it stems from the daveallan81 post that brought back into action a thread http://www.speedway-...showtopic=78799 that was some two years old and had already been decimated in its original concept. Edited May 28, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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