Berwick V Scunthorpe Championship 22/4/17@7-00pm

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

At the moment for Blacklock, Berge and Vissing we can bring in 3 7 pointers as we have around 21.50 for them once the averages come out

[penchev]

At the moment for Blacklock, Berge and Vissing we can bring in 3 7 pointers as we have around 21.50 for them once the averages come out

What will all the Berwick riders new averages be then?

 

Effective from the 6th May?

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

What will all the Berwick riders new averages be then?

 

Effective from the 6th May?

Bridger 5.73

11 from 5

5 from 5

7 from 5

7 from 5

7 from 5

6 from 5

 

Carr 1.74

2 from 4

2 from 4

0 from 3

1 from 3

1 from 4

4 from 5

 

Berge 4.55

5 from 4

3 from 4

4 from 4

8 from 5

5 from 5

 

Vissing 5.91

8 from 5

9 from 5

6 from 4

7 from 5

4 from 4

 

Doolan 7.00

7 from 4

14 from 6

8 from 5

6 from 4

4 from 4

10 from 5

 

Gappmaier 6.06

8 from 5

11 from 6

7 from 5

3 from 4

5 from 6

16 from 7

 

Blacklock 0.00

0 from 2

 

obviously Blacklock and Liam's minimum is 2 so 33.25, Vissing, Dimitri and Liam won't have done 4H 4A come Sunday as Liam is missing on Sunday and the other 2 have missed a home meeting but they can get an average re-assessment from the BSPA, who would be a promoter...

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

You have to have a 2 ptr at no7.

 

Carr can only drop to 3 (I think) and does not qualify to fill the no7 spot.

 

Those not gaving ridden 4h 4a will not automatically be reassessed even if you redeclare. MC discretion. The reg has been in place for years and NEVER been applied before.

Edited April 24, 2017 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

[Fromafar]

I agree you won't get them re-assessed if you drop them.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

You have to have a 2 ptr at no7.

 

Carr can only drop to 3 (I think) and does not qualify to fill the no7 spot.

 

Those not gaving ridden 4h 4a will not automatically be reassessed even if you redeclare. MC discretion. The reg has been in place for years and NEVER been applied before.

How can't Liam go to 2? He's British and minimum for a Brit is a 2 now isn't it?

[TheScotsman]

You have to have a 2 ptr at no7.

 

Carr can only drop to 3 (I think) and does not qualify to fill the no7 spot.

 

Those not gaving ridden 4h 4a will not automatically be reassessed even if you redeclare. MC discretion. The reg has been in place for years and NEVER been applied before.

 

Where are you getting this one from?

 

Most teams were set up with a 2 pointer but not all.

Certainly not us and Redcar.

 

Was 2 not set as the minimum for new ex-NL riders?

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

Mitch Davey is on a 3 anyways so why can't Liam be at number 7 on a 3/2

[balderdash&piffle]

At the moment for Blacklock, Berge and Vissing we can bring in 3 7 pointers as we have around 21.50 for them once the averages come out

If we change now we have 13.71 to spend on 2 riders

Edited April 24, 2017 by balderdash&piffle

[Normski]

Bridger 5.73

11 from 5

5 from 5

7 from 5

7 from 5

7 from 5

6 from 5

 

Carr 1.74

2 from 4

2 from 4

0 from 3

1 from 3

1 from 4

4 from 5

 

Berge 4.55

5 from 4

3 from 4

4 from 4

8 from 5

5 from 5

 

Vissing 5.91

8 from 5

9 from 5

6 from 4

7 from 5

4 from 4

 

Doolan 7.00

7 from 4

14 from 6

8 from 5

6 from 4

4 from 4

10 from 5

 

Gappmaier 6.06

8 from 5

11 from 6

7 from 5

3 from 4

5 from 6

16 from 7

 

Blacklock 0.00

0 from 2

 

obviously Blacklock and Liam's minimum is 2 so 33.25, Vissing, Dimitri and Liam won't have done 4H 4A come Sunday as Liam is missing on Sunday and the other 2 have missed a home meeting but they can get an average re-assessment from the BSPA, who would be a promoter...

Berwick at Ipswich on Thursday that will be 4th away meeting for Liam

[Guest Scunny2012]

I was also told he refused to ride but didn't know if it was true or not so didn't say anything on the matter, Berge on the other hand, he can f*** off

On last night's performance against Edinburgh Berge can certainly F*** off our way, always in the thick of the action and unlucky not to score more.

[balderdash&piffle]

On last night's performance against Edinburgh Berge can certainly F*** off our way, always in the thick of the action and unlucky not to score more.

That is what is so frustrating, I believed he would do well at Berwick, sadly has not delivered, can Scunthorpe afford to take a risk on such a tempramental rider, might be brilliant but might take a huffy and be sh*te

Edited April 24, 2017 by balderdash&piffle

[bigeddiechek]

I thought he looked a great rider too, but he's been extremely disappointing for us.
Really let the club down.

[crescent girl]

OK, let's settle a few misplaced ideas:

 

18.7.2 An SGB Championship Team's initial Declaration must not exceed 40.00 and must include at least 2 riders who have competed in or are eligible to enter the National Development League (Conference League), one of which must be at #7 by CMA.

 

18.7.3 It must not exceed 42.00 points in any re-declaration following the issue of established CMA’s for 2017, except where the MA of the introduced rider is equal to, or lower than the rider being replaced.

Any re-declaration must still include 2 riders who have competed in or are eligible to enter the National Development League (Conference League)

 

So, from that point, any Berwick redeclaration has to include two former Conference riders --- the really important question therefore being -- will Lewis Bridger's appearances for Weymouth in 2005 qualify him as the second such rider?

 

If so, then Liam can become the No 7 with a 3 (not 2) assessed average. Like Mitch Davey or Ellis Perks for instance, he is not new to our league, and can't go below a 3.

 

If Bridger isn't considered to be within that rule (although as it is written, no reason why he shouldn't be) then the re-declaration must still have two such riders -- presumably Liam and Ryan Blacklock.

 

In addition, we have to remember every team has to have two British riders in all declarations, regardless of other qualifications.

 

OK, folks -- back to your hypothetical drawing-boards!

Edited April 24, 2017 by crescent girl

[balderdash&piffle]

OK, let's settle a few misplaced ideas:

 

18.7.2 An SGB Championship Team's initial Declaration must not exceed 40.00 and must include at least 2 riders who have competed in or are eligible to enter the National Development League (Conference League), one of which must be at #7 by CMA.

 

18.7.3 It must not exceed 42.00 points in any re-declaration following the issue of established CMA’s for 2017, except where the MA of the introduced rider is equal to, or lower than the rider being replaced.

Any re-declaration must still include 2 riders who have competed in or are eligible to enter the National Development League (Conference League)

 

So, from that point, any Berwick redeclaration has to include two former Conference riders --- the really important question therefore being -- will Lewis Bridger's appearances for Weymouth in 2005 qualify him as the second such rider?

 

If so, then Liam can become the No 7 with a 3 (not 2) assessed average. Like Mitch Davey or Ellis Perks for instance, he is not new to our league, and can't go below a 3.

 

If Bridger isn't considered to be within that rule (although as it is written, no reason why he shouldn't be) then the re-declaration must still have two such riders -- presumably Liam and Ryan Blacklock.

 

In addition, we have to remember every team has to have two British riders in all declarations, regardless of other qualifications.

 

OK, folks -- back to your hypothetical drawing-boards!

So if we just replace Vissing & Berge now, before the changes, we comply with the rules

[Fromafar]

So if we just replace Vissing & Berge now, before the changes, we comply with the rules

Has Vissing fell out with management?

[balderdash&piffle]

Has Vissing fell out with management?

Too many rumours, none of which are good news for Berwick. I think we can safely say he is being replaced. Biggest rumour is he didn't like the new track, unlike the other 6 riders well don't know what Berge was thinking about it so safely say the other 5 riders.

[penchev]

OK, let's settle a few misplaced ideas:

 

18.7.2 An SGB Championship Team's initial Declaration must not exceed 40.00 and must include at least 2 riders who have competed in or are eligible to enter the National Development League (Conference League), one of which must be at #7 by CMA.

 

18.7.3 It must not exceed 42.00 points in any re-declaration following the issue of established CMA’s for 2017, except where the MA of the introduced rider is equal to, or lower than the rider being replaced.

Any re-declaration must still include 2 riders who have competed in or are eligible to enter the National Development League (Conference League)

 

So, from that point, any Berwick redeclaration has to include two former Conference riders --- the really important question therefore being -- will Lewis Bridger's appearances for Weymouth in 2005 qualify him as the second such rider?

 

If so, then Liam can become the No 7 with a 3 (not 2) assessed average. Like Mitch Davey or Ellis Perks for instance, he is not new to our league, and can't go below a 3.

 

If Bridger isn't considered to be within that rule (although as it is written, no reason why he shouldn't be) then the re-declaration must still have two such riders -- presumably Liam and Ryan Blacklock.

 

In addition, we have to remember every team has to have two British riders in all declarations, regardless of other qualifications.

 

OK, folks -- back to your hypothetical drawing-boards!

Gee Whizz.....................all very straightforward then..............rule book wants torn up and hoyed in the bin!

Too many rumours, none of which are good news for Berwick. I think we can safely say he is being replaced. Biggest rumour is he didn't like the new track, unlike the other 6 riders well don't know what Berge was thinking about it so safely say the other 5 riders.

like you say all rumours

[Fromafar]

Too many rumours, none of which are good news for Berwick. I think we can safely say he is being replaced. Biggest rumour is he didn't like the new track, unlike the other 6 riders well don't know what Berge was thinking about it so safely say the other 5 riders.

Never a dull moment at Shielfield,!!!

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

On SGB website averages include bonus points? Is this the case as I thought that they wasn't included?

Stefan Nielsen could be our other NL rider if Bridger doesn't count

Edited April 24, 2017 by allthegearbutnaeidea