Berwick V Scunthorpe Championship 22/4/17@7-00pm

[StevePark]

Why exactly was Claus missing?

 

Danish GP qualifier thingy?

[coolcol]

if only mr have alock could replace mr berg

[Catch Me If You Can]

Oh dear. Talk about kicked when you are down. You could point to a couple of bits of bad luck tonight, heat 1 when Ryan Douglas jumps the start, goes to the back, but instead of punishing his own mistake, the race is stopped. Berwick were on a 4-2, the re-run is a 5-1 against. Then Bridger drops a chain trying to go round Douglas in heat 6. But overall just too many riders under performing.

Easiest thing in the world to start pointing fingers and criticise, I'll leave that for others to do.

What probably won't be said is that there was again good racing tonight, Bridger's last to second in heat 13 (good to see Lewis Kerr up and about that was a nasty one) and the heat 15 between Bridger and Palm Toft was excellent. Several other heats with passing as well, but that will be lost amongst the negativity around the result.

The crowd was, as expected, well down tonight and the result tonight won't have done anything to help matters.

Silver linings? Dany Gappmaier had his best meeting as a Bandit, brilliant tonight. And the NJL team won.

Maybe time for Gary Havelock to make some more drunken video messages on twitter?

No defending some performances tonight. Berge for instance has been disappointing to say least. Vissing should hang his head in shame for what appears to be lack of interest in trying to get back from Denmark. Surely flights? Having said that Topsoil is correct. Heat 1 should not have been stopped, while Kerr should have been exc for bringing down Carr at start. With Bridgers bad luck and poor refereeing Berwick maybe could have snatched something but it not an excuse.

[jenga]

Only the rule book nerds will have heard of this, too many rules that ordinary speedway supporters don't know that is killing speedway

dont worry , a lot of football fans know about the off side rule . but still havent go a clue how it works .

[Searoamer]

Well I night to forget! A couple of bad disisions did not help, but does not get away from the fact the team is not working. Bridger exciting, busting a gut, needs to look at his equipment. As his last rides proved would LIKE to see him retained. I'm there to be entertained, Then there's Berge shown the door. Great potential but he's a professional or supposed to be, act like it, is it that hard to race for 60 seconds.Carr sorry but I did not want to see him return this year for berwick, finished last year on a high but only down to a period of gating consistently and he does not seem to do it to make a career out of it, cannot remember ever making a pass or attempt it, maybe berwick is not the track for him. You can pass at berwick or chase hard just got to be comitted, dropped. Doolan great captain, steady, good influence on the team.-retained. Vissing looked good first couple of matches, fast reliable then just lost the edge, prone to the 3rd bend wobble when needed, seems to slide off under pressure then tonight's should he of been there?- Not sure. Gappmaier- shown promise last year to warrant it, and proven it, got the desire, looks good, safe and steady on the bike would love to see him succeed.-Retain! Blacklock-not seen enough of him. Possibly needs to look up at Tom perry and a few others! now he's a one we should of had 1st on the team sheet for this year, pushing and able to pass. Berwick seems to suit him. So to top it off most of the team OK. 2 possible 3 changes we'll have a competitive team. How many more matches before new averages?

[Guest Scunny2012]

dont worry , a lot of football fans know about the off side rule . but still havent go a clue how it works .

Well that's me really confused now as i thought football was just running up and down a grass field kicking a bag of wind

[screm]

All in all quite a night last night at Shielfield, first off well done to Scunthorpe on their way, yes Berwick can claim that luck was against them at times but to put last nights defeat purely down to bad luck would be wrong and very unfair on Scunthorpe. Clearly now, last nights defeat makes changes to the Berwick team inevitable, I think we will see two, first out will go Claus Vissing who appears would rather chase some kind of SGP dream than race for Berwick, that and it appears he didn`t leave the track last week in a van but on the huffy bus after not being selected for Ht15, either way I don`t see anyway back for Claus. Fair to say the club are disappointed to say the least with him.

Any hope of Berwick getting anything out of last night probably ended in Ht10 with Bridger, on a tactical, coming down on the first bend, hoping for a rerun, not getting one, leaving the track then rejoining the race miles behind everyone else and still overtaking his partner ( Berge ), who had by that stage all but giving up. Mr Berge would be the second rider out for me, clearly doesn't want to be at Berwick and his attitude and performance last must have put any doubts in the managers head to bed.

Couple of positives, first Gappmaier, in the form of his life just now and Bridger, must faster out of the starts when on Liam Carr`s bike and still compeditive so I think there will be some talking to be done between rider and sponsor as, as we all suspected, his problems some to be machine and not rider.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

All in all quite a night last night at Shielfield, first off well done to Scunthorpe on their way, yes Berwick can claim that luck was against them at times but to put last nights defeat purely down to bad luck would be wrong and very unfair on Scunthorpe. Clearly now, last nights defeat makes changes to the Berwick team inevitable, I think we will see two, first out will go Claus Vissing who appears would rather chase some kind of SGP dream than race for Berwick, that and it appears he didn`t leave the track last week in a van but on the huffy bus after not being selected for Ht15, either way I don`t see anyway back for Claus. Fair to say the club are disappointed to say the least with him.

Any hope of Berwick getting anything out of last night probably ended in Ht10 with Bridger, on a tactical, coming down on the first bend, hoping for a rerun, not getting one, leaving the track then rejoining the race miles behind everyone else and still overtaking his partner ( Berge ), who had by that stage all but giving up. Mr Berge would be the second rider out for me, clearly doesn't want to be at Berwick and his attitude and performance last must have put any doubts in the managers head to bed.

Couple of positives, first Gappmaier, in the form of his life just now and Bridger, must faster out of the starts when on Liam Carr`s bike and still compeditive so I think there will be some talking to be done between rider and sponsor as, as we all suspected, his problems some to be machine and not rider.

 

Agreed all around, I was told that Claus took the huff last week and then had 'no way' of getting to Berwick which seems like a load of rubbish to me?!

 

Heat 10 was an embarrassment to our club and actually hurt deeply watching it

 

And for people saying there's no point in keeping Carr we have to have a 2 pointer at 7 so when Liam average comes down to 2 are we really going to drop him for a national league rider who hasn't seen the tracks before?

 

Havelock and Peet having to be split up by stewards because Peet was trying to get Berge excluded for 'not trying' in heat 10 (rightly so in my opinion)

Edited April 23, 2017 by allthegearbutnaeidea

[DSC67]

Well that's me really confused now as i thought football was just running up and down a grass field kicking a bag of wind

Don't think that you'd be allowed to kick Dick Barrie up and down the football pitch

Agreed all around, I was told that Claus took the huff last week and then had 'no way' of getting to Berwick which seems like a load of rubbish to me?!

 

Heat 10 was an embarrassment to our club and actually hurt deeply watching it

 

And for people saying there's no point in keeping Carr we have to have a 2 pointer at 7 so when Liam average comes down to 2 are we really going to drop him for a national league rider who hasn't seen the tracks before?

 

Havelock and Peet having to be split up by stewards because Peet was trying to get Berge excluded for 'not trying' in heat 10 (rightly so in my opinion)

Looks like Claus has been comparing notes with Krzystof Kasprzak

[screm]

Agreed all around, I was told that Claus took the huff last week and then had 'no way' of getting to Berwick which seems like a load of rubbish to me?!

Heat 10 was an embarrassment to our club and actually hurt deeply watching it

And for people saying there's no point in keeping Carr we have to have a 2 pointer at 7 so when Liam average comes down to 2 are we really going to drop him for a national league rider who hasn't seen the tracks before?

Havelock and Peet having to be split up by stewards because Peet was trying to get Berge excluded for 'not trying' in heat 10 (rightly so in my opinion)

Carr has had a couple of accidents recently that must knock his confidence, but in general his scoring has been poor so his place in the team must be in question and somehow I done see dropping to reserve improving things. Bridge showed last night Carr's kit is quick enough.

[DSC67]

Anyone know what the long term prognosis is on Ryan's injury ? Could be looking at at least 3 replacements if its long term , guess things will change after Thursday night and the completion of our 4th away match

[Goldmember06]

Don't think I've ever been more disappointed and frustrated than what i was last night. Dimitri Berge non effort all night and his heat 10 'effort' was nothing short of the worst performance I've ever seen a Berwick rider give. Thought the referee had a totally inconsistent night last night, heat 1 Douglas did move momentarily but penalised himself so no need to bring all 4 back. Heat 10 scrappy first bend with elbows being banged resulting in Lewis coming down race allowed to continue and then heat 12 Lewis Kerr brings down Liam and it's all 4 back. Dany and Kev keeping the Bandits in contention but you're never going to win carrying 3 riders that said i thought Lewis had some rotten luck last night. Where do Berwick go from here is anybody's guess but for me Berge would first to go even if Berwick have to put young Ruddick in his place, least the effort is there from young Ruddick. For Scorps well solid scoring pretty much down the top 4 seen them through. Interesting to note r/r for Auty gleamed 9 points on a track where last year he scored 4/4! Anyway Congratulations Scunthorpe on a deserved win last night

Edited April 23, 2017 by Goldmember

[one arm bandit]

4 team changes for me. Carr, blacklock ( due to injury) , vissing and berge, shuould be thrown never mind dropped. Not sure what replacements are going about but don't want to go down the wethers , pijper route. Bridget looked a changed man on the gm , not sure how revolution will take to that but I suppose if he's paying them a fee and their not producing it's his choice

Edited April 23, 2017 by one arm bandit

[spin king junior]

4 team changes for me. Carr, blacklock ( due to injury) , vissing and berge, shuould be thrown never mind dropped. Not sure what replacements are going about but don't want to go down the wethers , pijper route. Bridget looked a changed man on the gm , not sure how revolution will take to that but I suppose if he's paying them a fee and their not producing it's his choice

Question is, can he afford it? If I'm remembering rightly Lewis Kerr dropped Revolution speedway last season when he moved to Scunny and ended up borrowing Andreas Lygers machinery.

[Bandits4eva]

What could be worse... Him losing pounds that way or realising what he's losing out on fm not scoring on the track cos his current machinery isn't doing the job!

[Halifaxtiger]

Question is, can he afford it? If I'm remembering rightly Lewis Kerr dropped Revolution speedway last season when he moved to Scunny and ended up borrowing Andreas Lygers machinery.

 

You could equally ask can he afford not to ?

 

Poor performances so far, jumps on Carr's bike (which, with due respect, probably isn't the best) and pulls off two brilliant wins.

 

Bridger should stay. As Screm has said, looks very much like the machinery and not the man.

[Goldmember06]

Question is, can he afford it? If I'm remembering rightly Lewis Kerr dropped Revolution speedway last season when he moved to Scunny and ended up borrowing Andreas Lygers machinery.

More importantly can he afford not to? When on GMs last night, made starts and was just as fast scoring 5 paid 6 from his 2 GM rides. Prior to that only scoring 1/3 on his Jawas

[phillwhitewasmad]

52-38, I'll be on in 4 hours saying about how I was wrong haha

How right you were

[spin king junior]

More importantly can he afford not to? When on GMs last night, made starts and was just as fast scoring 5 paid 6 from his 2 GM rides. Prior to that only scoring 1/3 on his Jawas

Obviously long term it's the move to make, but he'll need the initial money to replace everything Revolution has, by sounds of it he'd have to essentially start from scratch. He even said in last week speedway star his comeback would be impossible without them.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens regardless, hopefully he'll get some help elsewhere as clearly this Revolution speedway experiment just isn't working.

[Goldmember06]

Obviously long term it's the move to make, but he'll need the initial money to replace everything Revolution has, by sounds of it he'd have to essentially start from scratch. He even said in last week speedway star his comeback would be impossible without them.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens regardless, hopefully he'll get some help elsewhere as clearly this Revolution speedway experiment just isn't working.

Yes, he will have to make sacrifices to obtain the equipment he needs to score points and make money. Ruthless sport speedway. Edited April 23, 2017 by Goldmember