Team And Riders, Points Changeover ?

[g13webb]

The Poole Echo is reporting this morning that Klindt and Shanes will remain at reserve at least until mid-June, as their 4th home meeting is not til 7th June; with KK also remaining at Number 1.

 

 

Why not leave them there for the whole season. Who cares any more ????

 

Here we are, in a new beginning with new rules, and ALL the riders are using fabricated averages. Either using some , gained riding in a lower division, or those calculated to suit the discrepancies. Surely getting them on a realistic footing would have been a priority. Now we hear this shambles is going to continue until June. Wonderful...

[IronScorpion]

Then no changes to be made 5-6 weeks later

[IronScorpion]

As Scunthorpe have now ridden their 4th Home meeting after 5 Away, 3 riders have now been given new averages from 30/4/2017.

 

I had worked out their averages based on all 9 matches, 4H & 1st 4A then 4H & last 4A. The figures given are from all 9 matches once 4H & 4A have been achieved so it will be a continuous rolling average throughout the season.

 

16.2.7 A SGB Premiership or Championship League rider will establish an MA after 4 Home and 4 Away fixtures, becoming effective 7 days after the last qualifying Meeting. Should an Established MA not be achieved to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team re-declares.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

What would be the situation with someone like Tungate?

New average will be around 4 which with old 1.4 multiplier would be 5.60 for 2nd division.

Could he now double up on that figure or would he still retain the 2016 9.03?

[SteveLyric2]

Surely if Rebals are going to get a new number 1 then they should act while Tungate's Average is still 9.03.

 

When it drops to 4. something, why would the 1.4 factor be applied if he got a chance in the SGBChampionship??

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Surely if Rebals are going to get a new number 1 then they should act while Tungate's Average is still 9.03.

 

When it drops to 4. something, why would the 1.4 factor be applied if he got a chance in the SGBChampionship??

so what are you suggesting he would join a SGBC on - 4 , 5.6 or 9.03??

[Aces51]

Surely if Rebals are going to get a new number 1 then they should act while Tungate's Average is still 9.03.

 

When it drops to 4. something, why would the 1.4 factor be applied if he got a chance in the SGBChampionship??

Once he has a proper Premiership average there will have to be a multiplier applied to convert that average to the lower standard in the Championship. If we agree that 1.4 was the correct multiplier to reflect the historical difference between the Elite and Premier leagues then the multiplier will be less than 1.4 to reflect the smaller difference that now exists between the two leagues.

 

To allow a Premiership rider to race in the Championship on his Premiership average would only be right if there were no difference at all in standard between the two leagues.

[waiheke1]

Surely if Rebals are going to get a new number 1 then they should act while Tungate's Average is still 9.03.

 

 

Or wait til the new averages come out and replace graversen with a number 1 instead? They will have plenty of points available

[Paddy The Rebel]

Or wait til the new averages come out and replace graversen with a number 1 instead? They will have plenty of points available

Exactly what I was thinking.

1-7 could well be

1 hougaard

2 allen

3 new rider 7-8 average

4 wright

5 josh g

6 starke

7 tungate

That team would be a hell of an improvement

[GWC]

Exactly what I was thinking.

1-7 could well be

1 hougaard

2 allen

3 new rider 7-8 average

4 wright

5 josh g

6 starke

7 tungate

That team would be a hell of an improvement

I'm sure that is what they are planning for - can see some other teams changing where certain riders

are strangely not performing as expected.........

[Panthers89]

Exactly what I was thinking.

1-7 could well be

1 hougaard

2 allen

3 new rider 7-8 average

4 wright

5 josh g

6 starke

7 tungate

That team would be a hell of an improvement

Let's calm down, it's hardly brilliant and top league quality is it?

[Najjer]

Let's calm down, it's hardly brilliant and top league quality is it?

It'd be enough for us to win our home matches which has to be a priority this year. Two engine failures cost us beating Swindon and Craig Cook replacing Holder done us last night amongst other factors. If we had a good no.1 we'd of won all our home matches fairly comfortably.

[waiheke1]

Let's calm down, it's hardly brilliant and top league quality is it?

It would be a competitive El side if u had a quality signing as that 7-8 point rider.

I don't think anyone's claiming it is a title winning side, but would be very tough to beat st home and competitive away.

[stevebrum]

Let's calm down, it's hardly brilliant and top league quality is it?

Still the highest quality in the UK.

[Cliffeboy]

Exactly what I was thinking.

1-7 could well be

1 hougaard

2 allen

3 new rider 7-8 average

4 wright

5 josh g

6 starke

7 tungate

That team would be a hell of an improvement

Just me and probably every other Rebels follower would have this sort of line up in mind.

Or wait til the new averages come out and replace graversen with a number 1 instead? They will have plenty of points available

I think with Gary and Statman keeping an eye on all things pertaining to averages, the best alternative will take place.

[MattK]

A lot will depend on the multiplier for riders without a Premiership CMA.

[Crazy robin]

I'd be looking to get Palm-Toft in the team if I was a team manager.

 

Cough, cough Rosco.

[SteveLyric2]

so what are you suggesting he would join a SGBC on - 4 , 5.6 or 9.03??

 

Bearing in mind the 1.4 factor was introduced to try to have all riders on an equivalent 2016 Premier League average, so the new SCBP and SCBC would be closer together in abilities, then I think every current rider's 'real' average after 4Home/4Away meetings should be what it is for both leagues. eg if Tungate finishes on 4.00 then that should be the average whether he moves to another SCBP team or to the SCBC.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

 

Bearing in mind the 1.4 factor was introduced to try to have all riders on an equivalent 2016 Premier League average, so the new SCBP and SCBC would be closer together in abilities, then I think every current rider's 'real' average after 4Home/4Away meetings should be what it is for both leagues. eg if Tungate finishes on 4.00 then that should be the average whether he moves to another SCBP team or to the SCBC.

Interesting point of view.

There is still a difference so surely must be some adjustment.

40/50 original build would be 1.25 for example.

Most that have given it any thought have come up with this.

The fact that it wasnt all set in the winter is the sad fact of the matter.