semion Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Employees ? Surely you mean sub contractors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Employees ? Surely you mean sub contractors Yes, you could call them that Still has to be that what the fan wants comes first, second and last every single time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 One of speedway's real problems is that on occasion it puts rider interests above those of the fans. Promotions need to listen to what their paying customers want, not what their paid employees want. To be fair to King's Lynn, they've tried what fans want regarding running meetings quicker with less grading etc and this is failing also, adding nothing to the entertainment.p I'm sure the riders would have loved the track Wednesday as they were all safe with not a single incident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Quicker meetings might not add to the entertainment directly but if it's chilly and the racing is toilet surely is better to be able to head home at quarter past nine rather than quarter to ten? No brainer I'd have thought. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I just want great racing .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Exactly. If the racing was Belle Vue esque I don't think people would care how long the meetings took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 my pictures from the meeting here >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_womble/albums/72157682907004895 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Holder must be on a guarantee £2k prob 3 maybe...Rose I dunno £100 a point.They are averaging the same.If Lynn don't replace Noddy people will think its a scam if he banging the scores after the ave's come out.. No your right, i don't think you do know. Your just guessing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Fans WILL think it's an averages scam if Holder suddenly starts banging in high double figures after the averages do change. I suspect that it may be part of a wider a scam but who wants to lose as KL did on Weds? And with very poor VFM entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 holder scored 2 tonight in Poland think he got 7 at tourn on Monday so it's not just England he is struggling in. Looked slow tonight and his gatting is terrible. Ridding with lambert is rubbing off on him 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 holder scored 2 tonight in Poland think he got 7 at tourn on Monday so it's not just England he is struggling in. Looked slow tonight and his gatting is terrible. Ridding with lambert is rubbing off on him we shall see how slow he looks next Saturday in the first GP of the season . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Poland earns him the money to compete in the GPs so he wouldn't wanna be getting low scores over there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Well Poland and Monster anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Well Poland and Monster anyway!! Of course, that cap is surgically attached Edited April 25, 2017 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 I am in no doubt the biggest probelm with todays tracks are the design of todays bikes. These bikes prefer striaght lines and big corners which enabling the throttle to be permanently open.. The NSS epitomises this design but they have a wide raceway that others aren't able to copy.. So rather than try to make all tracks similar, why not try to slow the bikes down to create a more racing environment. Let make more tracks like Monmore ( Wolves Track) forcing rider to be more articulate instead of being speed merchants.. I have nothing against Craig Cook's 15pt max on Wednesday, but he had the fastest bike, and if we put any of the top riders on that, the other night, they would have achieved something similar. It seem strange that the previous night he was far less successful on a more technical track. I think the shape at Lynn needs to change, but only in making the corners wider and sharper, meaning the riders have to shut the throttle on entry. I know this must be against the philosophy of the sport, but we want to watch competitive races and not processions of the fastest bike wins... With due respecto ..that's rubbish really..for years Cook was considered a small track rider..Edinburgh..Kirky Lane..and his weakness was the bigger tracks..he would have always done better at Wolves than at Lynn...if you want to be a top international rider you've got to ride the big tracks well..and British riders have been poor on them...so if Cook is riding them well then that's great...there's no better sight in speedway than close fast racing on a big fast track...it's what the sport is all about..not your Lakesides of the world. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 With due respecto ..that's rubbish really..for years Cook was considered a small track rider..Edinburgh..Kirky Lane..and his weakness was the bigger tracks..he would have always done better at Wolves than at Lynn...if you want to be a top international rider you've got to ride the big tracks well..and British riders have been poor on them...so if Cook is riding them well then that's great...there's no better sight in speedway than close fast racing on a big fast track...it's what the sport is all about..not your Lakesides of the world. I agree with you 100%. I always have regarded Saddlebow Road as one of the best tracks in the country, with its size and shape. We have had some top quality riders plying their trade around this track and all saying what a wonderful track it is... .... The problem we have now is that the majority of meetings are gate and go affairs which do nothing to inspire the fans. Tracks in the UK are all substandard when comparing with those in Poland/ Sweden. It is only the NSS that can compete with the racing we see from aboard. My comment was made . in reference to making our sport more racy, giving the rider who missed the gate the opportunity to pass. The obvious answer at Lynn would be to cover the track in proper shale. Riders have proved it can be raced on providing the preparation is right. But that is not going to happen because financial implications of the Stock Cars have to be considered as always. Altering the entry into corners may be the answer. With a concrete infield, it might be possible to move the white line in enough to create more space going into, without messing up the drainage . It was merely a suggestion that was feasible without too much expense. It could be experimented quite easily to see the effect it produced... But like you I like nothing more than seeing riders, racing hard riding flat out, swapping places to the line.... But unfortunately I live too far away from Manchester for me to get my addiction satisfied, on a regular basis... We have to make the most of what we have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I agree with you 100%. I always have regarded Saddlebow Road as one of the best tracks in the country, with its size and shape. We have had some top quality riders plying their trade around this track and all saying what a wonderful track it is... .... The problem we have now is that the majority of meetings are gate and go affairs which do nothing to inspire the fans. Tracks in the UK are all substandard when comparing with those in Poland/ Sweden. It is only the NSS that can compete with the racing we see from aboard. My comment was made . in reference to making our sport more racy, giving the rider who missed the gate the opportunity to pass. The obvious answer at Lynn would be to cover the track in proper shale. Riders have proved it can be raced on providing the preparation is right. But that is not going to happen because financial implications of the Stock Cars have to be considered as always. Altering the entry into corners may be the answer. With a concrete infield, it might be possible to move the white line in enough to create more space going into, without messing up the drainage . It was merely a suggestion that was feasible without too much expense. It could be experimented quite easily to see the effect it produced... But like you I like nothing more than seeing riders, racing hard riding flat out, swapping places to the line.... But unfortunately I live too far away from Manchester for me to get my addiction satisfied, on a regular basis... We have to make the most of what we have... seen plenty of passing at showground this season so far , but also had the inevitable strung out like washing some races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 You are always going to see some strung out racing at every track but we have seen far, far to much of it at Lynn. For whatever reason it's far too easy for the leading rider to pull out a massive lead over the first lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 What is a good track????? A track that produce good racing all the time or just half the time???? There is no track in the world that produces brilliant racing week in week out. Even the likes of NSS,Bygdosz,chetsowa,torun,Somerset, Scunthorpe For me a good meeting is one that you would enjoy without having any loyalties to any of the team/riders Kings Lynn might not be as good now as it was 10 years ago. But if u can get on average some decent races then you are doing ok. There's only ever been 1 meeting I've seen passing in every race and that was multiple passes every race in the PCM. Buy the DVD from clean cut sports. It's worth it. I'd say all you have to do is widen the bends. If there's 1 thing I've noticed travelling to all the tracks since the NSS opened its that the tracks look very narrow. Give riders racing room and they will put on a show. There's only ever been 3 fallers at NSS that I can remember. Garrity (obviously) in British final, Harris when he clipped s back wheel and fricke in world cup. That is all to do with width of track not the shape.riders will give more knowing they have a safe space to pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 11 min video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ve1uGL55dM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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