Wolves V Belle Vue 18/4/17

[SteveZodiac]

It's well prepared wolves, but it's a specialist track. Most passes are the direct consequence of a mistake. I didn't enjoy that one bit tonight. It was crap.

 

I've just got home and put the PC DVD in to watch some proper racing.

 

It's a bit rich a Belle Vue fan preaching to Wolves fans about the state of the track after the garbage we had to watch at the Greyhound Stadium year after year.

 

It's amazing what a year on a new track does to the memory it seems.

Anyone have any idea who it was practicing after the meeting?

[stevebrum]

That all sounds a little sour. I don't think anyone has suggested that.

The NSS is probably in the 5 top tracks in the world. This isn't about my daddy will beat your daddy, it's about using it as an example to move the sport forward in the UK.

 

I don't think it's that all all. Not unless all tracks rebuild a purpose build track and stadium which is not likely.

no track in the UK is like the NSS. So its tiresome to suggest every other track offers poor racing.

last night wasn't poor racing and Monmore is regularly voted best prepared track. That's no fluke it's proof that the racing is generally good.

What is sour is having Aces fans saying how poor the racing is because their track is so good,particularly given that you lost as well.

 

 

It's amazing what a year on a new track does to the memory it seems. :DAnyone have any idea who it was practicing after the meeting?

Well said.

It was Ryan Douglas.

[Wolfsbane]

Try this one.

 

# Monmore was always a better racing surface than Kirky Lane. They were comparable due to their respective sizes.

# Monmore and the NSS aren't comparable, they're chalk and cheese. The latter is undoubtedly on the way to being the best of it's type in the country. I say 'on the way' only because it would be unfair to judge it on the evidence of just one season's racing. The former has been the best prepared small track for many years.

 

Personally, I haven't been to a live speedway meeting for years but a meeting at the NSS is on the bucket list, it looks fun!

[IronScorpion]

 

 

I don't think it's that all all. Not unless all tracks rebuild a purpose build track and stadium which is not likely.

no track in the UK is like the NSS. So its tiresome to suggest every other track offers poor racing.

last night wasn't poor racing and Monmore is regularly voted best prepared track. That's no fluke it's proof that the racing is generally good.

What is sour is having Aces fans saying how poor the racing is because their track is so good,particularly given that you lost as well.

 

 

Well said.

It was Ryan Douglas.

Was Ryan practising with a view to being a replacement & first step into the top league, and/or getting any tips on set ups for his use of his own GTR?

[stevebrum]

Was Ryan practising with a view to being a replacement & first step into the top league, and/or getting any tips on set ups for his use of his own GTR?

No idea!

[SteveZodiac]

It was Ryan Douglas.

 

Thanks - thought he looked quite useful

[stevebrum]

Thanks - thought he looked quite useful

Looked very quick! I thought it was Schlein!

[superguest]

Went last night and thought the racing wasn't very good at all. Feel as a regular at the NSS we have been spoiled so expectations as to what good racing is are raised. Also, for some there is a natural reaction for the years of criticism being directed to the Kirky Lane track and having to take it. It will pass. Did think however, that the crowd was small for what had been billed as an attractive fixture.

Have to admit I wasnt there lastnight but have missed very few meetings at Monmore over the last ten years. The racing is usually very good but there has been meetings where there isnt much to shout out about. For me thou, the missing ingredient is the love / hate characters we used to get. Now the racing is less unpredictable as everyone is so nice to each other. Pedersen, Andersen, Fisher, Garrity used to liven it up abit and create some tension.

[Phil The Ace]

Try this one.

 

# Monmore was always a better racing surface than Kirky Lane. They were comparable due to their respective sizes.

# Monmore and the NSS aren't comparable, they're chalk and cheese. The latter is undoubtedly on the way to being the best of it's type in the country. I say 'on the way' only because it would be unfair to judge it on the evidence of just one season's racing. The former has been the best prepared small track for many years.

 

Personally, I haven't been to a live speedway meeting for years but a meeting at the NSS is on the bucket list, it looks fun!

Wolves is always well prepared. As it was again last night. Riders enjoy riding it. No one will dispute that.

 

I personally enjoyed the racing at murky lane. I diddnt think it was that all bad.

 

We can get poor meetings at NSS as good Friday showed.

 

I wasn't at all slating the wolves track just last night was rubbish. It diddnt help our boys not being able to ride the track and riding to wide

[IronScorpion]

Taken from Berwick 2017 50th Year

Four home, four away before our riders' averages can be looked at.

 

Fourth away (league) match is at Ipswich next week, fourth home is also against the Witches on Saturday week.

 

Riders' figures then take effect seven days on -- which would be May 6th.

It, also, states Dimitri (who is injured), does get his average for 4H 4A until mid May earliest

 

Posted by Crescent Girl

[Baldyman]

Yes, Belle Vue's new track is great - but all this Belle Vue supporters going on about "our track is better than your track nur nur nur" is getting a bit tedious, particularly as they has the worst track in the league for about 20 years beforehand.

[acef]

Nobody is going to convince me that last night's meeting was decent.

 

It wasn't. It was gate and go, apart from 2 heats.

 

Well prepared it may be, but last night was boring.

[stevebrum]

Nobody is going to convince me that last night's meeting was decent.

It wasn't. It was gate and go, apart from 2 heats.

Well prepared it may be, but last night was boring.

Plenty of passing.

[IronScorpion]

Now found this in Newcastle 2017 from dontforgetthefueltapsbruv post#1144

 

There is no League Cup this year.
KOCup matches not included.
Bonus points not included.
No previous season matches to be included in 2017. New figure for all after 4 home 4 away.
Rolling average from all 2017 league matches will count and be updated periodically. 20 match limit will no longer apply.

[Aces51]

I think Stevebrum often wrongly equates best prepared with produces good racing. It doesn't necessarily follow. However, over many years I have seen some good racing at Monmore Green, although less so in recent years. Last night I thought the racing was good, not excellent. I thought that because despite some strung out races there were a sufficient number of close tussles with a sprinkling of passes. I certainly didn't come away regarding it as a borefest or even anything remotely resembling that.

 

I don't get the complaint about Aces fans decrying other tracks. Yes, we are fortunate to have the NSS, I enjoyed my speedway more last year than at anytime time since we left Hyde Road. I saw speedway of a standard I thought no longer possible with modern machinery. However, surely we are still entitled to express an opinion about other tracks just as ever other fan. If I go to Poole and it is poorly prepared can I no longer say so or compare it to the NSS.

Edited April 19, 2017 by Aces51

[acef]

Plenty of passing.

Steve if you give me your address I'll post the Peter Craven memorial DVD to you, then you can watch a meeting with 'plenty of passing' 😂😂

 

That meeting raised the bar for me. It's the best speedway meeting I've ever witnessed either live or on the TV. It's quite possibly influenced my judgement

 

It's a bit rich a Belle Vue fan preaching to Wolves fans about the state of the track after the garbage we had to watch at the Greyhound Stadium year after year.

 

It's amazing what a year on a new track does to the memory it seems.

 

Anyone have any idea who it was practicing after the meeting?

I'm not sure why people introduce the old circuit when we are not talking about it? It doesn't enhance your argument.

 

For the record the place was a dump and the track was poorly prepared.

 

I'm not preaching, just pointing out that the NSS should be the example to follow. The whole package. It's basically a Polish experience in the UK.

[stevebrum]

Steve if you give me your address I'll post the Peter Craven memorial DVD to you, then you can watch a meeting with 'plenty of passing'

That meeting raised the bar for me. It's the best speedway meeting I've ever witnessed either live or on the TV. It's quite possibly influenced my judgement

 

 

I'm not preaching, just pointing out that the NSS should be the example to follow. The whole package. It's basically a Polish experience in the UK.

We get it, the NSS is the best place to watch speedway.

However I am more than happy with the racing i watch weekly at Monmore.

Unless all the tracks rebuild it's not a likely example to follow tho is it.

[Forknights]

Really enjoyed the meeting myself, thought there were some good racing on a well prepared track.

It was tight all the way through, and could of gone either way at one point, but well deserved by Wolves come the end.

 

I thought the Wolves reserves have improved, and giving it a go, and picked up some valuable points last night.

 

Young Bewley is a real star in the making, and every time I see him I feel he has improved.

 

Look forward to my next visit

[acef]

We get it, the NSS is the best place to watch speedway.

However I am more than happy with the racing i watch weekly at Monmore.

Unless all the tracks rebuild it's not a likely example to follow tho is it.

It's not and that's going to keep the sport here at the level it is, if your happy with that then good for you 👍

 

In a perfect world and with hundreds of millions I'd knock down every stadium and build the whole thing again.

[ouch]

I've said for years now that any rider in my team that gets passed, up the inside, by the opposition, at Monmore, will be fined.

 

It is irrelevant what my home track is, if I've been dissatisfied by the racing on offer I say so whether it's my track or any other.

 

Having said that I've kind of given up as it changed nowt and if the home fans are happy then fine.

 

Wolves for me is about a 20mins longer journey time than Belle Vue, in years gone by I would go when the Aces are there, for open meetings and when the fancied team or world champ are in town. I don't visit Wolves or any other top league track anymore so now see about a third of the meetings I use to attend.

 

Pleased The Aces got a point as that's the game plan. Win at home pick up a point at all away meetings then plan for the playoffs. 56 points should get you in the top half of the table.