stevebrum Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I was also there. The racing was terrible. I pointed as much out to a Wolves fan, he wasn't impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Apart from 2 races, it was poor. I worry for the standard some people expect if they think that was good racing. Â A lot of BV fans have really high expectations now, given what is put in front of them every Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 The standard was fine. Our track isn't the NSSC. Nor is any other. Some great heats tonight. Â Â Changes already happening if statuses are to be believed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 A rider moving of the inside to allow a rider to pass on the inside isn't a pass. Away riders will never learn. Always ride wide allowing wolves riders through  Only good pass was thorsell round sedgman I think it was a d cook on masters in heat 13 to allow fricke through It's well prepared wolves, but it's a specialist track. Most passes are the direct consequence of a mistake. I didn't enjoy that one bit tonight. It was crap.  I've just got home and put the PC DVD in to watch some proper racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's well prepared wolves, but it's a specialist track. Most passes are the direct consequence of a mistake. I didn't enjoy that one bit tonight. It was crap. I've just got home and put the PC DVD in to watch some proper racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) It's once 4 home and 4 away have been completed. Not 3/3. Â Is that 4 home and 4away for the team or for each individual rider ? We are led to believe the Teams total will be recalculated to max 42 pts from that some point in May. For this to be fair, all teams will have to be amended from a said DATE and each club have the same option of rider replacement. Surely a riders CMA will be amended from this point regardless of the number of meetings he has actually rode. Â These are just a few issues I'm trying to understand... Â Â Edit to say: Well done on an impressive home win last night, I thought it would be tight, Freddie and Thorsell were no doubt inspirational Edited April 19, 2017 by GRW123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Racing wise it was one of the poorer meetings I have seen at Monmore, however the closeness of the scores kept the meeting interesting. Â Thought the crowd looked thin. Â Much speculation about Skornicki's form, while Bewley continues to impress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited)  Is that 4 home and 4away for the team or for each individual rider ? We are led to believe the Teams total will be recalculated to max 42 pts from that some point in May. For this to be fair, all teams will have to be amended from a said DATE and each club have the same option of rider replacement. Surely a riders CMA will be amended from this point regardless of the number of meetings he has actually rode.  These are just a few issues I'm trying to understand...   It's an interesting question. If my calculations are correct (they frequently aren't) teams will reach their 4 home and 4 away on the following dates  1st May - Belle Vue, Somerset 10th May - Poole 18th May - Swindon 19th May - Rye House 20th May - Leicester, Wolves 24th May - Kings Lynn  The benefit is with the later dates as they can still be making changes within the 50 point limit.  This doesn't (obviously) cater for rain off's and/or rearranged fixtures. Edited April 19, 2017 by Pirate Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Much speculation about Skornicki's form, while Bewley continues to impress. Speculation backed up by comments made on social media last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 And what are these statuses and comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 And what are these statuses and comments  Dean Felton, Adam's mechanic posted "Well that's that then" followed by a spanner emoticon and a sad face.  Could mean either Adam is dropped.. or Adam has given Dean the boot.  Or Dean has broken his favourite spanner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yes, Belle Vue's new track is great - but all this Belle Vue supporters going on about "our track is better than your track nur nur nur" is getting a bit tedious, particularly as they has the worst track in the league for about 20 years beforehand. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I would take a point at Monmore anytime so not overly disappointed as the Wolves top four are a match for anyone round their home track. If they can sort out Skornicki and the reserve positions I would still expect them to be up there come the end of the season shootout. Team building for the new season is a bit of a joke nowadays as teams build with one eye on the first set of averages in order to then strengthen up, at one time clubs built to a strength for the season without the need for all the swapping and changing. Suppose that's the name of the game nowadays though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 To be fair its only a few BV fans who were probably annoyed about last nights result.The dog track wasn't good but worst track in league for about 20yrs,not sure that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yes, Belle Vue's new track is great - but all this Belle Vue supporters going on about "our track is better than your track nur nur nur" is getting a bit tedious, particularly as they has the worst track in the league for about 20 years beforehand. Â Â Agree with you on that, going from Hyde Road to Kirky Lane we know better than most what losing a great track and having to put up with a poor replacement is all about. I think the difference between the dog track and the new track has reignited peoples passion for real racing but it dosent make every other track all of a sudden not fit for purpose. When Hyde Road was in its pomp I never remember any comparisons with other tracks around the country slating the standard of racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 It's an interesting question. If my calculations are correct (they frequently aren't) teams will reach their 4 home and 4 away on the following dates  1st May - Belle Vue, Somerset 10th May - Poole 18th May - Swindon 19th May - Rye House 20th May - Leicester, Wolves 24th May - Kings Lynn  The benefit is with the later dates as they can still be making changes within the 50 point limit.  This doesn't (obviously) cater for rain off's and/or rearranged fixtures. Belle Vue won't do 4 home/away till 24 May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 It's an interesting question. If my calculations are correct (they frequently aren't) teams will reach their 4 home and 4 away on the following dates  1st May - Belle Vue, Somerset 10th May - Poole 18th May - Swindon 19th May - Rye House 20th May - Leicester, Wolves 24th May - Kings Lynn  The benefit is with the later dates as they can still be making changes within the 50 point limit.  This doesn't (obviously) cater for rain off's and/or rearranged fixtures. Not sure that Poole complete 4 qualifying home league meetings til 7th June, Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Does the KO Cup matches count, or is it league alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yes, Belle Vue's new track is great - but all this Belle Vue supporters going on about "our track is better than your track nur nur nur" is getting a bit tedious, particularly as they has the worst track in the league for about 20 years beforehand. That all sounds a little sour. I don't think anyone has suggested that. Â The NSS is probably in the 5 top tracks in the world. This isn't about my daddy will beat your daddy, it's about using it as an example to move the sport forward in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldace Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Went last night and thought the racing wasn't very good at all. Feel as a regular at the NSS we have been spoiled so expectations as to what good racing is are raised. Also, for some there is a natural reaction for the years of criticism being directed to the Kirky Lane track and having to take it. It will pass. Did think however, that the crowd was small for what had been billed as an attractive fixture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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