Cliffeboy Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 A mate is probably travelling down tomorrow, is not on the forum, he asks where locally best place to eat, can you take a chair in, can you update weather forecast...cheers, I will pass the messages on to him.Wetherspoons in town , and also the Railway pub in the main shopping street all good value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Rebels to win Tungate to chip in a bit more the rest of the side look very solid at home think Swindon will struggle lower order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 How have Somerset got a guest for Hougaard? R/R only for a rider missing from 2-5 in the averages unless he's a doubling up rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 How have Somerset got a guest for Hougaard? R/R only for a rider missing from 2-5 in the averages unless he's a doubling up rider.It seems rules on guests are being ignored this season, and unless the opposition manager spots it immediately illegal guests are allowed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 How have Somerset got a guest for Hougaard? R/R only for a rider missing from 2-5 in the averages unless he's a doubling up rider. Where's the rule on that? I just had a look but can't see anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Where's the rule on that? I just had a look but can't see anything.Section 18:10 facilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 could be 18.10.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Ok, so I've found the rules. Hougaard is riding in the Danish Championships. We have 18.10.1 which says that a guest or r/r is permitted for a rider appearing in their FIM Speedway Championship if permitted by Art 18.10. So 18.10 then says that for an absent number 1 - guest or r/r Absent double upper if riding for the "other" team - guest or r/r Absent 2-5 - R/R Indeed. No guest allowed for Hougaard. Edited April 21, 2017 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Agreed. Yet we've already had Schlein guesting for Riss despite having a higher average. Obviously no one at the SCB is worried about teams following the rule book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Is Pat Somerset's No 1 based on his current average, or does that change after the four home and away thing, not sure. All very confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Is Pat Somerset's No 1 based on his current average, or does that change after the four home and away thing, not sure. All very confusing.Can only be based on official green sheets surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Is Pat Somerset's No 1 based on his current average, or does that change after the four home and away thing, not sure. All very confusing.Has to be on official averages, which Tungate is still by far the no.1 on that count. I haven't looked at the rules myself but from the ones Grachan has quoted seems like abit of a boo-boo! The wording is so poorly written again though, why even include the "if permitted" part at the end of the ruling. Edited April 21, 2017 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Ok, so I've found the rules. Hougaard is riding in the Danish Championships. We have 18.10.1 which says that a guest or r/r is permitted for a rider appearing in their FIM Speedway Championship if permitted by Art 18.10. So 18.10 then says that for an absent number 1 - guest or r/r Absent double upper if riding for the "other" team - guest or r/r Absent 2-5 - R/R Indeed. No guest allowed for Hougaard. It isn't an FIM meeting, I'm sure teams in the past have been enabled to request a facility for a rider in a National Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 It isn't an FIM meeting, I'm sure teams in the past have been enabled to request a facility for a rider in a National Championship. Somerset have been granted a facility. The point is, only an absent #1 can be replaced by a guest or RR. Absent 2-5 (which includes Hougaard) is RR only. Unless more than 1 rider is missing, which doesn't appear to be the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Let's hope the ref has his eyes on "roller" Brady at the starts as he's as bad as Sargent. Yeah! Hope Ginge behaves himself in that department ! We can do without disqualifications/exclusions !!! Edited April 21, 2017 by Aroundtheboards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 It isn't an FIM meeting, I'm sure teams in the past have been enabled to request a facility for a rider in a National Championship. No question about them being allowed a facility. The issue is what the facility should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I will tell him, he normally carries a roll of Andrex Puppies on a Roll in case Izal is in place. Do you visit Somerset and Swindon? I do keef yes. Somerset has superb racing and it's an hour's drive for me. Blunsdon is around 45 minutes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Somerset have been granted a facility. The point is, only an absent #1 can be replaced by a guest or RR. Absent 2-5 (which includes Hougaard) is RR only. Unless more than 1 rider is missing, which doesn't appear to be the case. The only thing I can presume is that Kurtz was booked as a guest if Starke was going to be missing. Seen as he rode last night for P'boro it looks like it should be R/R for Hougaard tonight which makes Swindon favourites in my eyes. He has been superb in all 5 of our matches so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 This question was asked on Facebook and Àlun Rossiter replied to it stating Somerset are allowed a guest as it is his nations championship. If it wasn't allowed I'm pretty sure Rossiter wouldn't be backing the Rebels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 This question was asked on Facebook and Àlun Rossiter replied to it stating Somerset are allowed a guest as it is his nations championship. If it wasn't allowed I'm pretty sure Rossiter wouldn't be backing the Rebels.Actually disagree as he wouldn't want to upset his mates at Somerset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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