blueherb777 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 AJ,serious question why would you leave before the last race. Not a p take, just interested to know why Why? Because I get there early (unlike some ) ready for meeting to start ON TIME. With delays etc the first 4 or 5 Heats must have taken three quarters of a hour. Just standing around with nothing happening,starts to get very boring and annoying. No racing,c**p track,delays,more delays,really starts getting annoying. Watching riders just try and stay on the bike is NOT Speedway to me. By Heat 13,I had seen enough. Result does not matter anyway,as it is a warm up meeting. These sort of meetings should be £5 to get in,and that would of been TOO much yesterday. Rant over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Why? Because I get there early (unlike some ) ready for meeting to start ON TIME. With delays etc the first 4 or 5 Heats must have taken three quarters of a hour. Just standing around with nothing happening,starts to get very boring and annoying. No racing,c**p track,delays,more delays,really starts getting annoying. Watching riders just try and stay on the bike is NOT Speedway to me. By Heat 13,I had seen enough. Result does not matter anyway,as it is a warm up meeting. These sort of meetings should be £5 to get in,and that would of been TOO much yesterday. Rant over. It's not a rant AJ its all very true. By my watch heat 5 started at 3.50 PM so by the time that race finished it was an average of ten minutes per race so nine minutes of twidling my thumbs which is a massive reason fewer and fewer tolerate speedway these days. Two hour plus meetings or five hour double headers became the norm at my track Rye House during Len's last few seasons there. Just a turn off for me as is the dusty rather than dirt surface that produces no quality racing just as was the case at Rye. The first three meetings this season have been run very smoothly at Rye and they seem to have got the message that two hour plus meetings are a bore especially when the racing is poor. If tracks need to have a parade then fine have it 15 minutes before the advertised start time as Lakeside do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's not a rant AJ its all very true. By my watch heat 5 started at 3.50 PM so by the time that race finished it was an average of ten minutes per race so nine minutes of twidling my thumbs which is a massive reason fewer and fewer tolerate speedway these days. Two hour plus meetings or five hour double headers became the norm at my track Rye House during Len's last few seasons there. Just a turn off for me as is the dusty rather than dirt surface that produces no quality racing just as was the case at Rye. The first three meetings this season have been run very smoothly at Rye and they seem to have got the message that two hour plus meetings are a bore especially when the racing is poor. If tracks need to have a parade then fine have it 15 minutes before the advertised start time as Lakeside do. Yes,and not being a fan at all of Mr Silver does not help my enjoyment. I am sure he is holding Club back. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal hammer Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I agree with many of the previous comments re slick track and the time it took to run the meeting but meetings tend to drag when a team operates rider replacement due to riders in back to back heats. Nevertheless it was a pleasing win for the Hammers. Bowen looked unstoppable! I felt sorry for Spooner slipping off in heat 2. I think its fair to say his score didn't reflect his efforts. Really impressed by Alfie Bowtell again. A good debut from Couzins too. I think Kent will push us close on Friday though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I know a lot of people don't like the size and shape of Eastie's track, but very rarely is it dry dusty and slick. Not being a track curator cannot say for sure, but when you arrive for a meeting especially in the evening the track always looks damp even wet at times and has a thick layer of 'shale'. Makes it difficult for some riders because of the grip, but generally gives better racing without getting covered in dust. Surely it's a case of getting more dirt and unless rain is due watering it to the point of being wet . There must be a cost in this, but not as much as a dwindling crowd base. As regards getting the meeting through, unless there's any bad crashes, even with an interval should be totally possible to get it done inside 2 hours which I think is acceptable, any longer is bad management, refereeing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Why? Because I get there early (unlike some ) ready for meeting to start ON TIME. With delays etc the first 4 or 5 Heats must have taken three quarters of a hour. Just standing around with nothing happening,starts to get very boring and annoying. No racing,c**p track,delays,more delays,really starts getting annoying. Watching riders just try and stay on the bike is NOT Speedway to me. By Heat 13,I had seen enough. Result does not matter anyway,as it is a warm up meeting. These sort of meetings should be £5 to get in,and that would of been TOO much yesterday. Rant over. Thanks for the reply, totally understand your reasons and would be tempted to leave early myself after that. The clubs just don't seem to get it do they or maybe just don't give a sh##e 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Meldrew Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Why? Because I get there early (unlike some ) ready for meeting to start ON TIME. With delays etc the first 4 or 5 Heats must have taken three quarters of a hour. Just standing around with nothing happening,starts to get very boring and annoying. No racing,c**p track,delays,more delays,really starts getting annoying. Watching riders just try and stay on the bike is NOT Speedway to me. By Heat 13,I had seen enough. Result does not matter anyway,as it is a warm up meeting. These sort of meetings should be £5 to get in,and that would of been TOO much yesterday. Rant over. Well said AJ. I have been attending speedway meetings all over the country for the past 50 years plus and as a neutral spectator yesterday these events tried my patience to put it politely. I left after heat 14. I consider that not only should Kent reduce admission prices for this type of meeting but also introduce concession rates for the whole season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 What amazes me as a kent regular, is that the track surface is as poor now as it was in the first year at Central Park. Surely now that full planning permission has been obtained, the track should have been relaid during the close season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Meldrew Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Lens' explanation in his email today - "I didn't intend the track to be slick, but with only Saturday morning to do basic prep and a windy day on Monday, I didn't get it deeply wet to make grip ..my mistake." Perhaps a load more shale on the track in the first place and proper track grading and watering during the heats would have helped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 It can rain for forty days and forty nights, but it wont any difference to a concrete base, and watering a track with not much shale on it, does not make it grippy, it makes it slippery. Its not rocket science. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) All these years he's been doing it and still doesn't seem to understand how to prep a track for and during a meeting, was the worst I had ever seen at Rye House when I went first time their to support Eastbourne. Thankfuly have one of the best track teams at Eastbourne, so don't have problem with the track. Edited April 18, 2017 by Moleman27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Lens' explanation in his email today - "I didn't intend the track to be slick, but with only Saturday morning to do basic prep and a windy day on Monday, I didn't get it deeply wet to make grip ..my mistake." Perhaps a load more shale on the track in the first place and proper track grading and watering during the heats would have helped. I get same email. My case for Mr Silver to go is the fact he likes to do it all. Be in charge of track preparation,pick the team.... in other words be a dictator. Club is going nowhere unless changes in Management are made.IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Well Dry House got that name for a reason, and the same guy that does your Track is the same guy that got Rye House that name.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 That's len for you, he always builds something up, then let's it fall down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscambelt Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 That's len for you, he always builds something up, then let's it fall down. I was told when i was at kent that the surface is a sand and crushed mixed with small crushed stone that why when it rains it goes like slim plus the colour of it white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 The White is chalk,which is common to use in the base.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Don't you mean the top surface is chalk!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Sand hey? Hmmm, well I never saw it myself but I do remember reading about a certain track (Bristol I think) that tried to race on a track made up of sand, shared with the greyhounds or it was an ex greyhound track, something like that, in any case it was a disaster, zero grip, zero passing. Sand = not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Bristol was certainly a one off. Huge crowds, decent stadium and an awful track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) As far as Kent is concerned the top surface is the chalk base !!!!!!!!..But some shale can be found underneath the air fence,,I know i raked there for 3 seasons Edited April 20, 2017 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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