havenagotahope Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Sounds more like a bit of stirring by a champion wooden spoon. Too my mind Havy don't take no *h*te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) How bad is the lighting at Armadale these days it's pitch black I'm standing on the third bend and I can barely see the first and second bend No excuse for how bad Berwick have been but the track is awful. Edited April 14, 2017 by Hamster00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 So Berwick get the annual humping at Armadale, no surprise there, the Carr to No4 experiment failed miserably with him failing to trouble the scorers, there must now be question marks over his place in the team. All credit to any Berwick fan for making the trip up tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Least said the better 😞😞😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 So Berwick get the annual humping at Armadale, no surprise there, the Carr to No4 experiment failed miserably with him failing to trouble the scorers, there must now be question marks over his place in the team. Last year Liam Carr was a competent but not exceptional reserve. To ask him to step up to No 2 or 4 and expect him to perform is absolute lunacy. He never mastered being a reserve in the first place. The same looks like its happening to Max Clegg and is im sure an unintended consequence of imposing a 2 point reserve on teams which pushes last years reserves to the main body where they cant cope. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Looks like some Teams can cope with this situation.Like someone pointed out if Carr goes to reserve and Dany comes into the Team the situation probably won't change.Berwicks top 4 need to up their game IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Lets get started on the Berge&M Riss debate... as far as I could see Mark's throttle jammed and he went full speed into fence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Monarchs easy win so why did Mitchell only get 3 rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT94 Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Lets get started on the Berge&M Riss debate... as far as I could see Mark's throttle jammed and he went full speed into fence? Agreed, it looked a strange decision from where I was stood on the 3rd turn, the Edinburgh fan next to me also couldn't see how it could have been Berge's fault. Couldn't really see because of how dark the track was, might have missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) So Berwick get the annual humping at Armadale, no surprise there, the Carr to No4 experiment failed miserably with him failing to trouble the scorers, there must now be question marks over his place in the team. All credit to any Berwick fan for making the trip up tonight. The fans who made the trip will know Liam and Kevin were on a 5-1 ahead of Erik Riss when he overslid on the second or third lap on a greasy track and came down. In his next one there was a bike problem (maybe a result of the earlier crash) and in the third ride he hit the first turn in second place when his chain seemed to snap and he was thrown off. Nil return, but plenty of effort. "Failing to trouble the scorers" slightly harsh criticism IMO. Edited April 14, 2017 by crescent girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Looks like some Teams can cope with this situation.Like someone pointed out if Carr goes to reserve and Dany comes into the Team the situation probably won't change.Berwicks top 4 need to up their game IMO. Have to agree with you only 1 race winner tells it's own story , the back up riders are there to chip in with a few points but you need more than 1 race win from the top 4 to be competitive. Also the only race winner for Berwick just happened to be a reserve. Edited April 14, 2017 by New era Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Easy night for the boys even though a couple of them weren't at their best. Track was tricky with the heavy shower that fell in the afternoon making the track heavy and patchy. Erik, Sam and Ricky didn't even look like getting beat last night very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 You can drop Berge and Carr all you want, but that doesn't mask the fact that Berwick heat leaders don't beat opposition heat leaders and we don't provide enough heat winners throughout the team. One heat win last night and around half a dozen in away meetings in total so far this season. Edinburgh have riders who are struggling too, Davey and Clegg. The difference is the rest of the team makes up for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 You can drop Berge and Carr all you want, but that doesn't mask the fact that Berwick heat leaders don't beat opposition heat leaders and we don't provide enough heat winners throughout the team. One heat win last night and around half a dozen in away meetings in total so far this season. Edinburgh have riders who are struggling too, Davey and Clegg. The difference is the rest of the team makes up for that. Well said to say you nailed that one on the head some of our riders need to think about there pay cheques and whether they justify what they collect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 The fans who made the trip will know Liam and Kevin were on a 5-1 ahead of Erik Riss when he overslid on the second or third lap on a greasy track and came down. In his next one there was a bike problem (maybe a result of the earlier crash) and in the third ride he hit the first turn in second place when his chain seemed to snap and he was thrown off. Nil return, but plenty of effort. "Failing to trouble the scorers" slightly harsh criticism IMO. Carr scored zero, so did fail to trouble the scorers, if the terminology I used is slightly to harsh then I accept that. Please don't think I am putting Berwick's failure to win meetings so far this season all down to Liam, far from it, we have a No1 who is failing to win races on a regular bases, a No5 who's drop in form of late is alarming and at least one other rider under performing. Hopefully for Liam his new equipment will do the trick and we will see the kind of scoring we saw towards the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 The team has no backbone our heat leaders are sub par compared to the rest of the league as are our second strings Bridger looks quick when he gets going but he can't make a start for one reason or another The only positive is Gappmaier but as soon as the averages change and he is pushed in to the main body of the team I think he will find it more of a struggle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 The fans who made the trip will know Liam and Kevin were on a 5-1 ahead of Erik Riss when he overslid on the second or third lap on a greasy track and came down. In his next one there was a bike problem (maybe a result of the earlier crash) and in the third ride he hit the first turn in second place when his chain seemed to snap and he was thrown off. Nil return, but plenty of effort. "Failing to trouble the scorers" slightly harsh criticism IMO. As you always said when you were centre green a race lasts 4 laps or at Armadale sometimes 5 So Berwick get the annual humping at Armadale, no surprise there, the Carr to No4 experiment failed miserably with him failing to trouble the scorers, there must now be question marks over his place in the team. All credit to any Berwick fan for making the trip up tonight. Theres a slight problem this season we go twice at least thats one of them out of the way that will be 2 humpings this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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