Bagpuss Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Strange how some away fans moan when they get beat, but not a mention when they win. Rye track has been slick for as long as I've been going (32 years). Riders know it, supporters know it. I'm amazed that anyone's surprised! Funny you should say that as I stood there when we were only four down and thought that even if we gated our way to victory from there it still wouldn't have been worth £18 as the racing was so poor. As you say Rye has always been slick but I've never known it to be as one dimensional as last night, if anything the camber removal seems to have made things worse as the fastest line is now up to the fence exiting bend two, with absolutely nothing on offer down low. Anyway I expect I'll be back for the B fixture and hopefully the action is much better whatever the result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Last night wasn't worth 18 pounds. But then again not many meetings are worth the admission money. Why are there so many freeloaders allowed in the pits at speedway? They don't contribute anything to the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 8 races from last night on you tube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKhh12pIzerir9hTa6OULQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Aside from those that just want to stick the knife in, can anyone explain Watty's poor start? Is it mechanical or in his head as I fully expected him to start the season well after a decent winter in Oz and now that his off-track stuff has been sorted!! Head-No confidence. Scott Nicholls quoted in the local paper that's it mental. Just from watching you can see he's tentative and riding the wrong lines(you need to be on the fence at Rye) and he won't go anywhere near it. The promotion cannot allow him to get an average as that will kill our season. I would get rid now but doubt our promotion will be that ruthless. Not a particularly good meeting. Track way too slick again and was all down to gating. Harris mentioned in the local paper about needing to buy more shale and that's what needs to happen. The inside half of track is unusable as there is nothing but concrete and you end up going backwards if you stay low. No problem with racing at Rye when there is enough dirt down but that's becoming less and less unfortunately. Not surprised someone had a fall, health and safety would have a field day at Rye at the moment. It's a very uncomfortable place to watch speedway at the moment and isn't acceptable for the crowds we are getting(2500+). It's not going to be a quick process but it's certainly not going to impress any newbies. Always nice to beat Lynn though and read the sour grape comments from them. Reminds me of the old PL days. Not as much Lynn support as there used to be on the first turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Call it sour grapes if you like but the majority of the comments agree with what you have just said..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 8 races from last night on you tube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKhh12pIzerir9hTa6OULQ Thanks. But very slick.No dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 8 races from last night on you tube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgKhh12pIzerir9hTa6OULQ Thank you for the opportunity to witness what happened the other night. Probably I was a bit hasty in my condemnation of some of the Stars main riders in my previous comments. After watching the eight races above it became clear just what a poor track Rye House has become. Having been there many times in the past, I was aware of the small size, but the camber always gave the riders the opportunity to race, now it's a one track excuse that offers nothing. Forget the 4laps requirement, this has been turned into a 20 yd dash to the first corner. I was not aware of any alteration made, but this track has been ruined. It has turned this venue into a farce..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Thank you for the opportunity to witness what happened the other night. Probably I was a bit hasty in my condemnation of some of the Stars main riders in my previous comments. After watching the eight races above it became clear just what a poor track Rye House has become. Having been there many times in the past, I was aware of the small size, but the camber always gave the riders the opportunity to race, now it's a one track excuse that offers nothing. Forget the 4laps requirement, this has been turned into a 20 yd dash to the first corner. I was not aware of any alteration made, but this track has been ruined. It has turned this venue into a farce..... Farce? It's still 4 laps on a speedway bike. Every rider starts from the same position.... Perhaps you're just a bad loser Edited April 17, 2017 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Farce? It's still 4 laps on a speedway bike. Every rider starts from the same position.... Perhaps you're just a bad loser Yeah ! probably ... I hate to lose, it what has driven me all my life. I will admit, having been to RH few times in the past I thought we were capable of getting a point at least from our visit and was quite surprise to be turned over as we were. As you say its still 4 laps on a speedway bike, and you start from the same place, but you forgot to mention: its follow the leader, not allow to overtake, and the first one to the corner always wins. You could have got as much excitement watching riders practising .. .. . . .. one at a time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Farce? It's still 4 laps on a speedway bike. Every rider starts from the same position.... Perhaps you're just a bad loserDo you get more passes when the track has no dirt at all or when it has more material on these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Do you get more passes when the track has no dirt at all or when it has more material on these days? My experience last season was it appeared to have more on it and racing at times was superb! Sad to read ahead of my visit there next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Kings Lynn fans moaning about the state of a track 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 almost as funny as when Poole fans moan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Yeah ! probably ... I hate to lose, it what has driven me all my life. I will admit, having been to RH few times in the past I thought we were capable of getting a point at least from our visit and was quite surprise to be turned over as we were. As you say its still 4 laps on a speedway bike, and you start from the same place, but you forgot to mention: its follow the leader, not allow to overtake, and the first one to the corner always wins. You could have got as much excitement watching riders practising .. .. . . .. one at a time..... Not allowed to overtake? Hmmmm... don't think that's in the rule book, but I'll have to check. I'm also a terrible loser, but nowhere near as bad as I was. It's the reason I stopped going to see us a KL for the last 2 or 3 years you were PL, but strangely continued to travel to Somerset where we were even worse! Do you get more passes when the track has no dirt at all or when it has more material on these days?Hard to say as I've rarely seen the track with lots of shale down. Don't think the new exhausts help, but I'm no expert by any means. The one meeting I saw at Rye when it had loads of grip was a PL meeting with Sheffield a few years back. First meeting of the season. I recall riders getting into difficulty on the second turn and it reverted to its normal state for the rest of the season. There was a meeting on a rain soaked track, world U21 qualifier I think it was. Any other meeting and it would've been called off. A young lad by the name of Emil Sayfutdinov revelled in the conditions. Edited April 17, 2017 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 If the Rye track is prepared the way the Rockets riders and promotion want it really we can't argue with that though I'm surprised Chris Harris would want the track the way it was on Saturday night as his game isn't from the gate - one other point Edward Kennett rode well on Saturday for his 15 max I wonder how many points he will get when the Rockets come to Kings Lynn ?my guess not many as the Lynn track will be prepared the way the Stars riders want it so really we can't moan about Rye as we will do the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 The track wasn't great but you'd think KL's was as good as Belle Vue with the criticism on here. Unfortunately more and more speedway is from the gate especially on the smaller circuits. We've not put together a team of gaters and so if your top riders are consistently being outgated by them then they've got to look at what's going wrong. The defeat last week seemed to shake up the Rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 The track wasn't great but you'd think KL's was as good as Belle Vue with the criticism on here. Unfortunately more and more speedway is from the gate especially on the smaller circuits. We've not put together a team of gaters and so if your top riders are consistently being outgated by them then they've got to look at what's going wrong. The defeat last week seemed to shake up the Rockets. I want all tracks to be conducive for passing, Lynn included. I'd also like all riders to have a proper practice before a meeting to get set up for the track because the lack of this is what invariably messes up the chances of away team .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I want all tracks to be conducive for passing, Lynn included. I'd also like all riders to have a proper practice before a meeting to get set up for the track because the lack of this is what invariably messes up the chances of away team .... I don't disagree with that. Not sure if the power of the bikes make it that easy on the small tracks. TBH I've always thought a practice would be a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I want all tracks to be conducive for passing, Lynn included. I'd also like all riders to have a proper practice before a meeting to get set up for the track because the lack of this is what invariably messes up the chances of away team .... I don't disagree with that. Not sure if the power of the bikes make it that easy on the small tracks. TBH I've always thought a practice would be a good idea. It would have to be written into the rules, otherwise unscrupulous promoters/team managers would think up any excuse to prevent it. I can see no end of problems and arguments, not worth the hassle. Kings Lynn (Porsing aside) got their set ups wrong. Didn't see many Swindon fans moaning last week. The track was the same then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Croc tears, Over the last few years Kings Lynns home record was very good but they were let down on their travels (classic example of a home track bias) , maybe just maybe they do not have as neutral a track as much as they think, now poor Redcar and Scunthorpe suffer every year because theirs really IS a neutral track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 It would have to be written into the rules, otherwise unscrupulous promoters/team managers would think up any excuse to prevent it. I can see no end of problems and arguments, not worth the hassle. Kings Lynn (Porsing aside) got their set ups wrong. Didn't see many Swindon fans moaning last week. The track was the same then. I can't see it happening but I'd like it to. The track isn't as great as it was at the start of last season IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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