SCB Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Tonight the Kurtz Brothers have score a 12 and 14+1 (paid) maximum. How many other times have brothers scored maximums in the same meeting? Can't be many examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Tom and joe Owen might off done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Tom and joe Owen might off done. probly on a few occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 At a guess maybe the Kennett brothers when they both rode for Eastbourne during their championship winning year in 1971? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 in 1976, Tom had 9 full + 7 paid and Joe 28 full,,, they must have co-incided on occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyenz Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 At a guess maybe the Kennett brothers when they both rode for Eastbourne during their championship winning year in 1971? They were the reserve pair in the very first meeting I ever went to in 1971. My guess is that they never scored maximums in the same match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Charlie and Kenny McKinna for Glasgow at Blantyre although two of Kenny's were from reserve: 17/10/80 v Workington 4-9-3 & 3-8-1 15/05/81 v Exeter 4-10-2 & 4-12-0 22/05/81 v Ellesmere Port 5-13-2 & 3-9-0 25/09/81 v Stoke 4-11-1 & 4-10-2 Also 31/07/81 v Milton Keynes, Charlie 4-12-0 and Kenny 3-7-2 but he was riding with a broken ankle and pulled out of his fourth ride so technically no max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 in 1976, Tom had 9 full + 7 paid and Joe 28 full,,, they must have co-incided on occasions.[/quoteIs that the sme season when joe Owen only was beaten 3 times in a whole season by 3 different riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Both Todd and Brady were in tremendous form tonight. Don't know for sure but I imagine the Moran Bros got maximums in the same meetings for Sheffield/Belle Vue Edit: Found an example of Shawn and Kelly Moran getting full maximums for Sheffield at Hackney in 1987: http://www.sheffield-tigers.co.uk/hacbl31081987.html Edited April 6, 2017 by Tigerite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I tried to looking to the old times on this - specifically at Harringay. That involved for the 1930s Jack and Norman Parker, while for 1947 and 1948 Vic and Ray Duggan. I went through what was available on the Speedway Researcher website but could not find any match results where these sets of brothers scored maximums at the same meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 in 1976, Tom had 9 full + 7 paid and Joe 28 full,,, they must have co-incided on occasions.[/quoteIs that the sme season when joe Owen only was beaten 3 times in a whole season by 3 different riders. dunno,,, but am lead to believe that he only dropped 1 pt all season at Brough, only beaten by Chris Turner of Ellesmere Port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveallan81 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) in 1976, Tom had 9 full + 7 paid and Joe 28 full,,, they must have co-incided on occasions.[/quoteIs that the sme season when joe Owen only was beaten 3 times in a whole season by 3 different riders. Chris Turner was indeed the only rider to beat Joe at Brough in NL or KOC matches in 1976. He finished behind Phil Crump & Steve Gresham in an ILKOC tie with Newport. He also lost both legs of a Silver Helmet challenge to Laurie Etheridge. His only other home defeats over 4 laps were by Graham Jones (Berwick) in a challenge match and by bruv Tom in a Best Pairs event. Joe and Tom rode unbeaten together in 14 league & cup matches, 13 at Brough and 1 away at Boston. Edited April 7, 2017 by daveallan81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Tom & Joe Owen scored maximums for fun whilst at Newcastle. Joe got quite a few for Hull too in 1978 once Mauger helped him get his mojo going, until his (Joe's) terrible 2nd half accident at Hull (Boulevard) mid to late-1978. Joe's career was ended riding for Ellesmere Port at Birmingham (Wheels Project) in 1985. Joe survived but was sadly confined to a wheelchair.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Peter (Full) and Les (Paid) Colllins riding for Belle Vue at Home to Leicester in 1977. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Chris Turner was indeed the only rider to beat Joe at Brough in NL or KOC matches in 1976. He finished behind Phil Crump & Steve Gresham in an ILKOC tie with Newport. He also lost both legs of a Silver Helmet challenge to Laurie Etheridge. His only other home defeats over 4 laps were by Graham Jones (Berwick) in a challenge match and by bruv Tom in a Best Pairs event. Joe and Tom rode unbeaten together in 14 league & cup matches, 13 at Brough and 1 away at Boston. a thought some-one would 'do the stats',,, it was all a bit vague, from inside me pram don't suppose you know what the matches were (apart from Boston) ??? Edited April 7, 2017 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Walter and Fred Creasor also achieved this for Newcastle in the English Dirt Track League in 1929 although riders had only three races a match in those days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) I tried to looking to the old times on this - specifically at Harringay. That involved for the 1930s Jack and Norman Parker, while for 1947 and 1948 Vic and Ray Duggan. I went through what was available on the Speedway Researcher website but could not find any match results where these sets of brothers scored maximums at the same meeting. You needed to look to 1949. Both Vic & Ray got 12 pt max's in the league matches on the 24th June (v West Ham) and 1st July (v Wimbledon) Also 21st May 1948 vs West Ham in the Anniversary Cup (an Official competition) Vic got 5-15 and Ray 4-11-1 Bert & Cyril Roger (New Cross 1953 at the very least). But not all 3 Roger brothers (all 3, Bob being the 3rd, rode for New Cross in 52 and 53). Edited April 7, 2017 by compost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Tonight the Kurtz Brothers have score a 12 and 14+1 (paid) maximum. How many other times have brothers scored maximums in the same meeting? Can't be many examples. Joe and Tom Owen in a good amount of matches in the '75 and '76 seasons. They finished No 1 and 2 in the NL averages in both seasons. Also, the Williams brothers (Freddie and Eric) would have done it a few times at Wembley. And Peter and Les Collins at Belle Vue between 1977 and 1979. But the record would be owned by the Owen brothers. All the best Rob Edited April 7, 2017 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Have any brothers scored maxes in the same meeting but for opposition sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Have any brothers scored maxes in the same meeting but for opposition sides? One of them would have to be at reserve for that to have happened. Or in an obscure format, so the recent EL format allowed it and the late 90s/early 00s Craven Sheild format allowed it. I can't imagine theres been too many maximums on opposing teams. The only know I know of (and cant date it exactly) was a Craven Sheild meeting at Wolves, Bv were involved as Jason Lyons for a maximum but so did one of the Woles riders. so about 2000ish. But not brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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