martinmauger Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Unfortunately the fun fair and zoo had closed down by the time I visited Hyde Road! Dunno which was the bigger atraction at 'The Zoo'; the usually brilliant speedway or the almost essential fun fair afterwards, especially the go karts .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobblytriers Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'd say that most people do arrive at the track within plenty of time but then find themselves in a queue. Last Saturday at Leicester, a delayed start was announced because of the queue to get in. My mate was in it and he'd arrived within plenty of time under normal circumstances. In Leicester's case, you couldn't buy a ticket in the car park bar as in previous seasons, and there were also season ticket holders who were in the queue to pick up their tickets. Maybe it's not last minute fans but possibly bad organisation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Maybe it's not last minute fans but possibly bad organisation? Of course it not the fans and it's totally down to bad organisation. If you can get 1000ish people into a stadium in 30 minutes then you're doing something very wrong. It's not hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 BV delayed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Considering at Belle Vue you can pre-book your tickets on line, there should not be delays due to queues of fans buying tickets at the stadium on the day. It has been common practice at Belle Vue to delay starts due to crowd numbers , or at least that is the excuse they usually trot out. Do not forget you poor folk already in the stadium who have probably planned and got there in good time, that the promotion have already got your money, so they know there is little chance of you being so annoyed that you will walk out, and they are frightened of loosing potential paying customers if they do not delay the start. It is laughable at speedway when you consider that Old Trafford with its many thousands of fans on match days rarely ever delay the kick off, yet speedway has problems with just a couple of thousand fans. It will be interesting to see if Kings Lynn carry out their policy of no more delayed starts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Belle Vue finished at 9.30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Belle Vue said there was a queue of people waiting to get in but also that the paramedics were attending to someone and that the racing couldn't start until they had finished. They held the parade whilst we were waiting and although I didn't look at my watch my impression was that we didn't seem to be waiting for very long for the first race. The meeting wasn't late finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Belle Vue said there was a queue of people waiting to get in but also that the paramedics were attending to someone and that the racing couldn't start until they had finished. They held the parade whilst we were waiting and although I didn't look at my watch my impression was that we didn't seem to be waiting for very long for the first race. The meeting wasn't late finishing. The bit in bold comes under unforeseen circumstances and I doubt anyone would complain about waiting whilst they dealt with someone. It sounds as if Belle Vue did all they could to make up time, so well done to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 It is laughable at speedway when you consider that Old Trafford with its many thousands of fans on match days rarely ever delay the kick off, yet speedway has problems with just a couple of thousand fans. It will be interesting to see if Kings Lynn carry out their policy of no more delayed starts. To the best of my knowledge, speedway is the only sport that delays the advertised starting time, to allow those outside to come in. It's unprofessional, and shouldn't happen if we want the sport to be taken seriously. Can you image the same thing happening at the British Grand Prix in Cardiff.....of course not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 To the best of my knowledge, speedway is the only sport that delays the advertised starting time, to allow those outside to come in. It's unprofessional, and shouldn't happen if we want the sport to be taken seriously. Can you image the same thing happening at the British Grand Prix in Cardiff.....of course not? It happens occasionally in Association Football Matches too. Usually for safety reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Too few turnstiles!! Promoters doing things on the cheap. If I am in the Stadium in plenty of time I am totally pissed off if the start is delayed for any reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 It happens occasionally in Association Football Matches too. Usually for safety reasons. That's a different matter altogether if it's for safety reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 Too few turnstiles!! Promoters doing things on the cheap. If I am in the Stadium in plenty of time I am totally pissed off if the start is delayed for any reason. Pleased to hear that it is not only me! Reading the reports on here about the "poor show" ( to be kind about it ) at the Leicester V Poole meeting there is no need for a Big Push by the BSPA. Speedway seems so eager to shoot itself in the foot that it looks as if they will do so until there is no ammunition left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 I think the "doing it on the cheap" has credence here.... Speedway relies so heavily on volunteers, perhaps getting people to take monies off customers at the entrances/turnstiles these days is difficult.. Don't think any turnstile staff have been done over, but the threat is there.. It's hard work getting track staff these days to attend, which is possibly the best place to be as a fan.. Turnstile staff must be the worse possible volunteer post available.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 I think the "doing it on the cheap" has credence here.... Speedway relies so heavily on volunteers, perhaps getting people to take monies off customers at the entrances/turnstiles these days is difficult.. Don't think any turnstile staff have been done over, but the threat is there.. It's hard work getting track staff these days to attend, which is possibly the best place to be as a fan.. Turnstile staff must be the worse possible volunteer post available.. I agree - they have to deal with people like............................................ME!! :unsure: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I agree - they have to deal with people like............................................ME!! :unsure: Very rarely!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Very rarely!!!! Very true!!!!. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Very true!!!!. :sad: But you're not sad you're happy not to go to speedway, aren't ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 But you're not sad you're happy not to go to speedway, aren't ya? NO!!! I am not - do away with Double Points and I will be back like a shot. Leave it as it is and I won't be. Answer me this Trees - why should I pay good money to get angry and upset every time the B/W Helmet comes out.? I won't do it any more - at least I can say that I have stuck by my principles - I think, as I suspect you already know, that I believe contriving, conniving, fiddling, cheating is very wrong and I will continue to make my stand against it. So - YES!! - I am sad that I can't bring myself to go - but at least I am trying to do something, and I won't be the only one. I hope this answers your question once and for all. I am aware that most Posters on here don't agree with me, that is their right but I also think some of them respect my views. I have my right to go by what I believe in too, that is my right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) What % of final match results have been influenced by double points, and does it make a significant difference ? or what about double points/tack ride/tack sub going from the 15 mt handicap ? and, you only get double ponts if you win and any team can use it anytime and as often as they like ? Edited April 11, 2017 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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