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Scunthorpe Scorpions V Peterborough Panthers ( S G B Champ) - Sunday, April 2nd (5.30pm)


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I've just looked through the rest of the teams and their reserves are bloody awful!

 

Apart from Glasgow with Tom Perry, they're all poor!

 

BWD/Lambert should be racking up 10+ every meeting.

 

How often does a team lose when your reserve scores 10 or more points?

Do you mean like Scunthorpe at your place a week last Friday?

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Peterborough won't make the play offs IMO and I'd be surprised if the current 1-7 is the same after the cut off point in May. The top 5 isn't strong enough.

 

All very well and good saying you have a stronger reserve than most, but how often does a "strength in depth" side with a strong reserve but average looking top 5 win the pots?

 

Reminds me of Poole with the turbo twins eating up the majority of their points and still going with a strong third healeader whilst apparently have far too long a tail. They'd always win at a canter.

 

Even Edinburgh won 3 titles on the trot going with Cook, Masters and sedgmen and a supposedly "weak tail".

 

Give me a team with top end strength over a strength in depth team every time

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Peterborough won't make the play offs IMO and I'd be surprised if the current 1-7 is the same after the cut off point in May. The top 5 isn't strong enough.

 

All very well and good saying you have a stronger reserve than most, but how often does a "strength in depth" side with a strong reserve but average looking top 5 win the pots?

 

Reminds me of Poole with the turbo twins eating up the majority of their points and still going with a strong third healeader whilst apparently have far too long a tail. They'd always win at a canter.

 

Even Edinburgh won 3 titles on the trot going with Cook, Masters and sedgmen and a supposedly "weak tail".

 

Give me a team with top end strength over a strength in depth team every time

Agree. But really don't see what changes could be made now. Let's see how it goes, BWD will step into the main body and will be replaced by Lambert who we won't be able to carry.

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Agree. But really don't see what changes could be made now. Let's see how it goes, BWD will step into the main body and will be replaced by Lambert who we won't be able to carry.

 

Agree. But really don't see what changes could be made now. Let's see how it goes, BWD will step into the main body and will be replaced by Lambert who we won't be able to carry.

lambert must off run over 10 black cats , had a brand new bike today drops a chain in heat 1 due to frame being out of line , cut his hand also there's no need to panic where's he concerned

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Because Ostergaard completely lost form and Halsey simply wasnt up to it

Plus the changes were made very late in the day and rarely if any? Did all three of Cook, Bjerre and Thomson actually take to the track together at the same time. Thomson wasn't exactly a revelation either.

 

At the end of the day we'll see and I could be wrong, but if I was a betting man I'd definitely have a punt that the line up will be tinkered with at some point before May.

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It seems strange to be discussing team changes after an away win! Give them all chance to get used to each other and ride as a team (and perfect the team riding).

 

If BWD rides like that every week then he'll be in for a great season. Lambert looked off the pace but I think his fall last week and on the first bend of the first race today affected him. So give him time and he'll be back. Hansen looked abysmal but he was always going to be like that away. Holder, Starke and Bacon were also all impressive in their own ways. The one I'd be concerned about is Ostergaard as he ended last season poor and seemed average today. Imo he should be the one stepping up to number 1 in the short-term whilst Holder gets upto speed with the EOES, but I can't see that happening.

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Congratulations to Peterborough on a fine win over a Scunny team that very rarely wins a home daytime meeting which doesn't augur well for the rest of the season as most meetings start at 5.30, It was an average meeting but i would prefer either a later start or back to Friday at 7.30 when there is more moisture in the track and better racing + speedway is far better under lights

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Well not the start to the season we wanted at home, congratulations to Peterborough.

 

I had a good moan before the meeting about the team balance and the lack of number 1 yet again but thought, ah what the heck lets see how we do. My opinion hasn't changed I still think we need a genuine number 1 & also we have one of the weakest reserves in the league with Bailey, nobody who stands around me can understand where this belief is coming from that he will make a top rider. He stayed on the white line throughout, made 2 points from gate 4 (which gave nearly all heat winners & 2nd places) and apart from that tootled along at the back. I don't know how many times Bacon has rode at Scunthorpe but he wasn't great at all .... until you compare him to Bailey who has already done half a season on our track, you would have though it was the opposite!

Fritz had 3 falls, to go with his other load of falls at previous meetings but he is all action and we can forgive him that, but someone please have a word..... the race is 4 laps, you don't have to try and overtake every corner.

 

I'm sorry Rob but last week with Campos & this week with Bailey is what is costing us. We have been through this so many times with one useless reserve e.g. Compton, Becker, Williamson, Bates, Armstrong etc ... we either give them experience (without points for us) or they are simply not good enough. Please sort this out soonest and get us a decent 2nd reserve, no more Campos bookings or guaranteed 000 reserves ... you want to lose supporters, this is the way to go.

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Fine margins.. Fritz had a bit of a mare, one to forget. Had he given 100% instead of 150%, stayed on his bike and chipped in with his usual points tally.. Scunny would of won, simple....but we all love a trier and wouldn't want anything other from him, he's an entertainer, a joy to watch on his day. That said, you have ride the conditions and occasionally you have to take advantage of the other teams misfortune...Peterborough did just that and deserved their win at the end of the day. Starke was the match winner, couple of great rides from him, joy to watch.

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I think it's worth remembering that Bailey has only just had metalwork out if his shoulder and has had very few laps since his accident. Had Wallner scored what was expected Josh wouldn't be talked about at all. I do accept though that he should be beating the away number seven more often than not in home matches.

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I think it's worth remembering that Bailey has only just had metalwork out if his shoulder and has had very few laps since his accident. Had Wallner scored what was expected Josh wouldn't be talked about at all. I do accept though that he should be beating the away number seven more often than not in home matches.

why on earth some people are moaning about bailey i'll never know ,scunny have put together a team with riders who have stood still for years it will be a long season a head for them , any team who has any aspirations of coming anywhere in the league should be disappointed if they come away from there without a win.

think panthers will be 1 of the worse travelling teams and if they can beat scunny anybody can

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Fans moaning about Bailey who as said above, was his first meeting back from taking metal work out of his shoulder, yet:

 

MPT only managed 7? Douglas only managing 6+2 and your experienced reserve constantly falling of his bike?

 

Still, you moan at that 2.00 rider in his first meeting back from injury.

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Fans moaning about Bailey who as said above, was his first meeting back from taking metal work out of his shoulder, yet:

 

MPT only managed 7? Douglas only managing 6+2 and your experienced reserve constantly falling of his bike?

 

Still, you moan at that 2.00 rider in his first meeting back from injury.

Totally agree in time Bailey will come good,other teams are the same have young talented English lads at reserve patience is needed.Newcastle what a great example have supported Phillips to the hilt and good on em for that.If the likes of Smith,Bailey,Hume,Mountain,Bacon are given time they will be good PL riders in time this league now is very tough.
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The one I'd be concerned about is Ostergaard as he ended last season poor and seemed average today. Imo he should be the one stepping up to number 1 in the short-term whilst Holder gets upto speed with the EOES, but I can't see that happening.

Baffoon... he was paid 3 heats wins from 4 races away from home... :rolleyes:

 

Move on! :blink:

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Baffoon... he was paid 3 heats wins from 4 races away from home... :rolleyes:

 

Move on! :blink:

Resorting to insults then and ignoring everything else I said. Did you see him make a genuine pass? No. How many times was he passed? 4. Is that typical of a rider second in the averages? He wasn't involved in the action like Holder, Starke or BWD. Admittedly he wasn't poor, but I never said he was. 7 from 4 away from a rider who should be averaging 8.00 overall is average because he's hitting his average!

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Resorting to insults then and ignoring everything else I said. Did you see him make a genuine pass? No. How many times was he passed? 4. Is that typical of a rider second in the averages? He wasn't involved in the action like Holder, Starke or BWD. Admittedly he wasn't poor, but I never said he was. 7 from 4 away from a rider who should be averaging 8.00 overall is average because he's hitting his average!

8+1 is very acceptable away from home imo. One 5-1, a 4-2 and two 3-3's would indicate a solid display from Ulrich..

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