Polish Xtra/nice League Sunday 8th October Live On Tv

[iris123]

Jepsen Jensen in a class of his own today, I've not been keeping up with the Polish scores but I'm reliably informed that he's been the standout rider of the league season.

Be difficult to choose what to call yourself what with Jeremy being so popular and Jepsen Jensen being the best rider in Poland

[racers and royals]

Nice Polska league started the season before the Extraleague and are having the final round (14) on Sunday.

Play-offs are 1v4 and 2v3

Table - all played 13

1 Tarnow pts 28 +218

2 Gdansk pts 22 +88

3 Lodz pts 18 +61

4 Daugavpils pts 17 +16

5 Pila pts 16 -31

6 Krakow pts 13

7 Rzezow pts 10

8 Bydgoszcz pts 3

TV matches Sunday are Krakow v lodz(1st match lodz 50 Krakow 40) and Daugavpils v Gdansk(1st match Gdansk 52 Daugavpils 38)

Pila are home to Rzeszow( 1st match Rzeszow 42 pila 47)

Pila will collect the 3 points so Daugavpils will only need a victory at home to Gdansk to reach the play-offs- on race points difference.

Attendances from Yesterday

Czestochowa 10000

Grudziadz 5500

Leszno 7500

Gorzow 12300

TV matches announced for round 13 -Sunday 13th August

Rybnik v Torun start time 3.30pm UK time

Zielona Gora v Gorzow !!!!!! start time 6pm UK time

Edited July 31, 2017 by racers and royals

[bruno]

I don't follow the Polish league but I take it this is the 2nd division, what the hecks happened to Bydgoszcz. I've been a couple of times a few years ago when they were a top team with the best track anywhere

[iris123]

If they want him, surely they can use him in these meetings as Extraliga must take priority.

 

 

Troube with Jack Holder.Will Greg Hancock return?

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/701978/kadrowe-zagadki-get-well-klopot-z-jackiem-holderem-czy-wroci-greg-hancock

 

Think Bydgoszcz hit big trouble with their finances.We have one or two fans from the club who can expand on that though

Edited August 1, 2017 by iris123

[racers and royals]

I don't follow the Polish league but I take it this is the 2nd division, what the hecks happened to Bydgoszcz. I've been a couple of times a few years ago when they were a top team with the best track anywhere

The 2nd of the 3 leagues. I think it stems from poor team, crowd dissapears and then financial problems occur.

[iris123]

As i mentioned a few weeks back,possibly on the Dane drain thread or something to do with the Danish problems,Mikkel Michelsen has been unhappy(unhappy is probably putting it politely) with his lack of rides in Poland.Now it looks like he might be after a move to Czestochowa

 

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/701851/mikkel-michelsen-czestym-gosciem-w-czestochowie-trafi-do-wlokniarza

[tarkens]

Martin Smolinski has signed for Motor Lublin.

He'll most likely ride only once for us, Ostrovia away, as Robert Lambert is unavailable that day due to the British League commitments.

[PolskiZuzel]

... what the hecks happened to Bydgoszcz. I've been a couple of times a few years ago when they were a top team with the best track anywhere

 

The track is still the same, but not the management which caused the club enormous debts. The riders contracted for 2017 season were such that you most likely never heard of. So Bydgoszcz is now in a place they have been inevitably going for the last few years. Former management's years of neglect, waste and lack of a rational idea how to run a club resulted with degredation to the Polish lowest division. For the last two seasons the club has been in hands of Mr Wladyslaw Gollob, father of the Gollob brothers, Tomasz and Jacek, who said two years ago that his priority is getting rid of debts. The answer to your question : what the hecks happened to Bydgoszcz in the simplest way is that Bydgoszcz had a team made up of riders that were not good enough even for the 2nd division. Why they contrated such riders? Because of their financial situation. When Wladyslaw Gollob, father of the Gollob brothers, Tomasz and Jacek, took over the club it had debts in a range of 1 milion Pound Sterling. After two years of Gollob snr rule the debt has been reduced to about 300K, but the club is in the lowest division. Wladyslaw Gollob does not treat degradation to the lowest league as a personal failure. "If I was sitting on a motorbike and had to deliver the points, then one could say so. The club’s financial capacity is miserable to say the least But at least the club was paying riders on time - he said. What's happens next? Who knows. Everything has to be started from the beginning.

[racers and royals]

 

The track is still the same, but not the management which caused the club enormous debts. The riders contracted for 2017 season were such that you most likely never heard of. So Bydgoszcz is now in a place they have been inevitably going for the last few years. Former management's years of neglect, waste and lack of a rational idea how to run a club resulted with degredation to the Polish lowest division. For the last two seasons the club has been in hands of Mr Wladyslaw Gollob, father of the Gollob brothers, Tomasz and Jacek, who said two years ago that his priority is getting rid of debts. The answer to your question : what the hecks happened to Bydgoszcz in the simplest way is that Bydgoszcz had a team made up of riders that were not good enough even for the 2nd division. Why they contrated such riders? Because of their financial situation. When Wladyslaw Gollob, father of the Gollob brothers, Tomasz and Jacek, took over the club it had debts in a range of 1 milion Pound Sterling. After two years of Gollob snr rule the debt has been reduced to about 300K, but the club is in the lowest division. Wladyslaw Gollob does not treat degradation to the lowest league as a personal failure. "If I was sitting on a motorbike and had to deliver the points, then one could say so. The club’s financial capacity is miserable to say the least But at least the club was paying riders on time - he said. What's happens next? Who knows. Everything has to be started from the beginning.

You make it sound as if Bydgoszcz ARE riding in Polish lowest league- maybe it just how it`s written as I`m sure you know they are in Nice Polska league but will be in Div 2 next season.

[tarkens]

You make it sound as if Bydgoszcz ARE riding in Polish lowest league- maybe it just how it`s written as I`m sure you know they are in Nice Polska league but will be in Div 2 next season.

 

look at his avatar, he definitely knows

[PolskiZuzel]

You make it sound as if Bydgoszcz ARE riding in Polish lowest league- maybe it just how it`s written as I`m sure you know they are in Nice Polska league but will be in Div 2 next season.

 

My apologies if I mislaed you... yes Bydgoszcz are for now in the Nice 1 Liga Zuzlowa...but in reality they have been relageted to the Nice 2 Liga Zuzlowa.

 

“I am taking over the company and all responsibility for it. I do not need any advisors” - announced Wladyslaw Gollob, when he began building Polonia Bydgoszcz team for the 2016 season in the Nice Polska Liga, The team was to be made up of former and current local riders with two young Russians, Kudriashov and Kulakov. There was also a place for Oskar Ajtner-Gollob, his grandson, and Jacek Gollob son.

In the first (2016) season under Gollob’s ownership, Bydgoszcz club managed (only just) to survive and avoided relegation. This year, with more or less the same team they failed, managing only one win and one draw out of 13 meeting home and away.

As the new owner, Wladyslaw Gollob found the club in an extremely bad situation, in terms of sport and finances. In sport terms he took over the club which was relegated to the lower Nice 1 Liga Zuzlowa division and in financial terms press reports at the time were saying that the club was 1 million Pound Sterling in debts.. Many were doubtful whether the club would ever get straight.

Crushing defeats with the top 1 Polska liga zuzlowa teams showed that there was a class difference The two Russians, Andrei Kudriashov and Viktor Kulakov were not so bad last season but in 2017 they lowered their performances for which they apologised. The club chairman is trying to see some advantages. These include timely payments and debt reduction. With over five million zlotys of debt, only 1.5 million left to be settled. "

…

Wladyslaw Gollob was born in Gdynia in 1937. He came to Bydgoszcz with his parents after the war. They settled in Bydgoszcz run down district called “Londynek”. Wladyslaw had his first contact with a motorbike when he was still a pupil at the Technical College in Gdansk, and it became his passion for life. In order to avoid three years compulsory military service in the navy, Wladyslaw obtained a glider pilot license. The reason was simple - compulsory service in the Air Force took only 2 years . He completed army service in the famous VI Airborne Division.

Old residents living near the Gollob family remember the motobikes in the backyard or on the pavements. They all belonged to Wladylaw Gollob and his two sons, whom he had implanted his passion for bikes

Tomasz rode on bikes before he even started primary school. As a thirteen / fourteen year old the Gollob boys were already winners of medals in the Polish motocross championships in the 50, 80 and 125 ccm classes. Tomasz and his older brother were spending most of their time with their father,, watching how he prepared their engines.

In 1987 Polonia Bydgoszcz coach and trainer, Ryszard Nieścieruk, heard about the extremely talented boys riding for the motor-cross club just outside Bydgoszcz. He also heard that the boys father was very inaccessible, cautious and mistrustful. The Polonia club former rider knew somebody within his family who was on familiar terms with Mr Gollob. His mission persuading the father was successful and the Gollob brothers made appearance on the Bydgoszcz speedway track. They took to it like a fish to the water.

At the turn of the 80s and 90s, the Gollob era began in the Polonia club, where the clan had almost always enemies, real or imaginary one - also in its own team. The first was Ryszard Dolomisiewicz. who according to the “Papa” Gollob was treated more favourable than his sons. Later the "enemy" was American Sam Ermolenko - "because he assembled coalition of foreign riders against young Gollob", and the longest one was Piotr Protasiewicz.

The Gollob Brothers era in Polonia Bydgoszcz ended fourteen years ago. At that time, the former BKS Polonia multi sport Bydgoszcz club broke up, and the speedway section was taken over by new entity, BTZ Polonia. The Gollob brothers decided to leave Bydgoszcz and signed for the wealthy Tarnów in the south of Poland. In the press interviws Jacek Gollob said that the reason it happened was because their father, Wladyslaw, was badly treated: “ for me and Tomasz our father is a leader, us three have been together for many years now, we are a team" What could they have against a distinguished old genteleman who always played fair in Bydgoszcz? And that - not the money - is the main reason for the change of the club "- explained Jacek Gollob.

Since then, none of Władysław Gollob's sons have ever competed in Polonia colours. In Bydgoszcz, however, they were still important personalities. In 2010 Tomasz firmly supported local politician for the mayor post, After his victorious campaign, Wladyslaw Gollob was even mentioned among the candidates for the speedway club chairman. Five years later, at the age of 78 he returned as the owner of Polonia Bydgoszcz club.

 

[racers and royals]

Another big weekend of Polish TV action gets underway on Friday evening- all UK times

Wroclaw v Grudziadz programme starts 5.30pm with 1st race 6pm- teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73246/betard-sparta-wroclaw-gkm-grudziadz

Reminder that on Saturday is the SEC 3rd round on Eurosport at 6pm(delayed live)

1st up on Sunday is Krakow v Lodz start time 11.30am- Eleven are showing it but not sure which channel.teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73315/arge-speedway-wanda-krakow-orzel-odz

2nd up at 1.30pm Daugavpils v Gdansk- teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73316/lokomotiv-daugavpils-wybrzeze-gdansk

1st of the Extraleague matches is Torun v Czestochowa programme starts at 3pm 1st race 3.30pm-teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73244/get-well-torun-wlokniarz-czestochowa

2nd up is Leszno v Gorzow start time 6pm-teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73247/fogo-unia-leszno-stal-gorzow

 

http://www.soccer-live.pl/transmisje.php?id=motorsport

https://www.meczyki.pl/

http://livelooker.com/en/tv,7,speedway.html

[Dave Goddard]

Which two matches are the live TV ones which Premier Sports will have, do you know? Not been informed yet.

[racers and royals]

Which two matches are the live TV ones which Premier Sports will have, do you know? Not been informed yet.

Are you on a wind up Dave my post above yours gives the 2 Extraleague matches on Sunday that are televised- that is providing tomorrow`s goes ahead- if it is called off and run on Sunday it will probably be televised instead of the Torun v Czestochowa match.

[RobMcCaffery]

Looks like Torun have freed Jack Holder of his British Sunday commitments with Peterborough. Money talks.

 

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/702676/kolejne-dobre-wiesci-dla-kibicow-get-well-torun-terminski-dopial-swego-w-sprawie

 

Google Translation: Get Well Toruń reported in social media that Jack Holder is flying to Poland. Talks on this matter lasted quite a long time, but the most optimistic scenario was fulfilled.

On Wednesday, the odds of Jack Holder starting in the match against Vitcherif CrossFit Czestochowa were 50 in 50. The Toruns were doing everything they could to keep the Australian on Sunday. Riding old seniors was definitely a safer option for Jacek Frątczak .

 

- The situation changed very quickly. Once it seemed that it was going to be okay, and in a moment there were problems again. However, we were very consistent and succeeded - the manager of Toruń tells us.

 

Frątczak is very grateful to Przemysław Terminiński , who showed a great determination in Jack Holder's case. The effect is that Chris's younger brother will be able to perform not only on Sunday but also in other meetings, which the team will play until the end of PGE Ekstraligi . - He worked the whole team who did more than you could. The greatest merit, however, is the owner's side. It is Mr. Przemyslaw who has an interest, "stresses Fratczak.

If Jack Holder scores another good performance on Sunday, then the operation for his appointment to the next game will not have to start again. The training staff has far more comfortable working experience.

It is worth emphasizing that the Australian will have plenty of time to prepare for the meeting with the Fool. In Poland will appear on Friday and will be able to participate in the training, which was scheduled in the afternoon. One day later, he will have another chance to get acquainted with the specifics of Motoarena."

No doubt his brother will now be giving him a good talk on the subject of loyalty.

[racers and royals]

Looks like Torun have freed Jack Holder of his British Sunday commitments with Peterborough. Money talks.

 

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/702676/kolejne-dobre-wiesci-dla-kibicow-get-well-torun-terminski-dopial-swego-w-sprawie

 

Google Translation: Get Well Toruń reported in social media that Jack Holder is flying to Poland. Talks on this matter lasted quite a long time, but the most optimistic scenario was fulfilled.

On Wednesday, the odds of Jack Holder starting in the match against Vitcherif CrossFit Czestochowa were 50 in 50. The Toruns were doing everything they could to keep the Australian on Sunday. Riding old seniors was definitely a safer option for Jacek Frątczak .

 

- The situation changed very quickly. Once it seemed that it was going to be okay, and in a moment there were problems again. However, we were very consistent and succeeded - the manager of Toruń tells us.

 

Frątczak is very grateful to Przemysław Terminiński , who showed a great determination in Jack Holder's case. The effect is that Chris's younger brother will be able to perform not only on Sunday but also in other meetings, which the team will play until the end of PGE Ekstraligi . - He worked the whole team who did more than you could. The greatest merit, however, is the owner's side. It is Mr. Przemyslaw who has an interest, "stresses Fratczak.

If Jack Holder scores another good performance on Sunday, then the operation for his appointment to the next game will not have to start again. The training staff has far more comfortable working experience.

It is worth emphasizing that the Australian will have plenty of time to prepare for the meeting with the Fool. In Poland will appear on Friday and will be able to participate in the training, which was scheduled in the afternoon. One day later, he will have another chance to get acquainted with the specifics of Motoarena."

No doubt his brother will now be giving him a good talk on the subject of loyalty.

he will get a 28 day ban in the UK surely if he is not at Peterborough on Sunday ??

Another big weekend of Polish TV action gets underway on Friday evening- all UK times

Wroclaw v Grudziadz programme starts 5.30pm with 1st race 6pm- teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73246/betard-sparta-wroclaw-gkm-grudziadz

Reminder that on Saturday is the SEC 3rd round on Eurosport at 6pm(delayed live)

1st up on Sunday is Krakow v Lodz start time 11.30am- Eleven are showing it but not sure which channel.teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73315/arge-speedway-wanda-krakow-orzel-odz

2nd up at 1.30pm Daugavpils v Gdansk- teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73316/lokomotiv-daugavpils-wybrzeze-gdansk

1st of the Extraleague matches is Torun v Czestochowa programme starts at 3pm 1st race 3.30pm-teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73244/get-well-torun-wlokniarz-czestochowa

2nd up is Leszno v Gorzow start time 6pm-teams https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/73247/fogo-unia-leszno-stal-gorzow

 

http://www.soccer-live.pl/transmisje.php?id=motorsport

https://www.meczyki.pl/

http://livelooker.com/en/tv,7,speedway.html

Should be a live stream of krosno v Ostrow on Sunday start time 3.45pm UK time here https://www.youtube.com/user/83SPORT/feed?activity_view=6

Watching Wroclaw v Grudziadz on http://aliez.me/live/o7dn6c5n/

Friday nights are a disaster as regards crowds turning up !!!!

Edited August 4, 2017 by racers and royals

[Bradford Ace]

Track as crap as it was last Saturday when I was at the World Games.

 

Great City and awesome stadium but a one line borefest of a track sadly.

 

Hope they sort it out soon as would be a great place to have a GP if they got some grip & an outside line sorted.

[Wiseguy]

what are the rules for heat 14 and 15 in Poland?

 

Do the top point scorers in each side have to race in heat 15 unless replaced by a reserve?

[racers and royals]

what are the rules for heat 14 and 15 in Poland?

 

Do the top point scorers in each side have to race in heat 15 unless replaced by a reserve?

No rule anyone can ride-including tac sub if 6 down- reserves come in to replace a 1to 5 named rider.

[mikec]

Track as crap as it was last Saturday when I was at the World Games.

 

Great City and awesome stadium but a one line borefest of a track sadly.

 

Hope they sort it out soon as would be a great place to have a GP if they got some grip & an outside line sorted.

Hope you are right about the Wroclaw track producing better racing soon - especially as I've booked a weekend in Wroclaw taking a punt on them making the Polish Playoff Final & hosting the 2nd leg, which I think is due for Sun 24th September.

 

Booked this mindful that Leszno are in the shake up for the Playoffs too & is an easy commute from Wroclaw. Other than rainoffs, have I got the playoffs schedule right R&R?