Poole V Belle Vue 5/4/17 And Belle Vue V Poole 7/4/17 Ko Cup.

[poolebolton]

 

 

Don't know about Dorset but most English schools are off this week and next.

Not in Dorset

[Gavan]

Well last night was boring. Track Under watered, just nervous about having problems like Darcy. Yes, it was gate and go which was boring. But as a pirates fan this is something which was must look at positively. We are missing Kyle for Lewis. Lewis will just take some time which is fair enough but he wants to ride here and just need more rides.

 

But we somehow won with a track which wasn't traditionally Poole. KK not quite firing. He is getting better and he will come good just this is the start of the season. Let's all calm down. Hans will get better as well and so will Holder. He just needs to figure the track out a little bit. Shanes is awesome to watch with that longtrack style as he glides around the bends. Kurtz is already proving why he won an aussie world championship. Made Fricke who is the world u21 champ look rubbish.

 

So let's all calm down we are missing a key rider. If Kyle was in that team he would have got at least 5 points which is 4 better than Kerr and all of a sudden its 50-40 to Poole. As for the small crowd it's still early on in the season and school's have not broken up just yet.

 

I also think by listening to people no one really cares about the knockout-cup. Premiership is what you want.

 

 

As for Belle Vue they look really good. But Bjerre will come down next time and get 2 points somehow knowing him.

 

 

But its not all doom and gloom we managed to win a meeting still even though we were poor. If this was football MOTD would be that's a title winning team even when there rubbish they still win.

 

you think Kurtz is a better rider than Fricke??? Not yet in my opinion. Well known Fricke never goes well at Poole. Love the comment that nobody cares about the cup yet so many Poole fans were going crazy after winning the shield against Wolves!! Now because you may go out the cup you say Poole aren't bothered!! It's like a football team not worried about losing in the F.A Cup and celebrating like mad after winning the community shield!

Don't know about Dorset but most English schools are off this week and next.

my kids are off this week and so are my friends in Birmingham Edited April 6, 2017 by Gavan

[poolebolton]

you think Kurtz is a better rider than Fricke??? Not yet in my opinion. Well known Fricke never goes well at Poole. Love the comment that nobody cares about the cup yet so many Poole fans were going crazy after winning the shield against Wolves!! Now because you may go out the cup you say Poole aren't bothered!! It's like a football team not worried about losing in the F.A Cup and celebrating like mad after winning the community shield!

I actually think Kurtz is better than Fricke. I just think he will go further. I also think Adam Ellis will go further than Lambert. I really like Lambert but ellis will go further. Just what I think. Not starting an argument here just what I think.

[Gavan]

I actually think Kurtz is better than Fricke. I just think he will go further. I also think Adam Ellis will go further than Lambert. I really like Lambert but ellis will go further. Just what I think. Not starting an argument here just what I think.

your fully entitled to that opinion. I think

Fricke is better than Kurtz right now but maybe Kurtz will improve past him. Can't have Ellis being better than Lambert though. Shame Poole moved Adam on after his improvement last season

Edited April 6, 2017 by Gavan

[Bleeds Pirate Blue]

Very disappointing performance from the Pirates. Firstly, the track was incredibly slick, and somewhat dusty, producing poor racing all night. Whilst I'm aware riders prefer the slicker and therefore 'safer' tracks these days, this was too far in that direction for my taste. There were multiple races when faster riders were unable to pass slower ones in front of them, despite trying multiple lines, and as far as a viewing spectacle goes, last night's product was terrible. Gate 1 provided the heat winner of 6 of the last 8 races I believe.

As for the Poole team;

 

KK continues to look slow. I'd say he was better than a week ago, but in all honesty it was hard to tell as it was gate-and-go last night, so even if he was on faster bikes you wouldn't have been able to tell, as you couldn't pass.

Holder was underwhelming, but I'm willing to give him a pass for the time being. He needs to improve though.

Kerr was trying, but failed to make an impact. The sooner Kyle is back, the better.
Kurtz was my rider of the night. He challenged all meeting, and tried both inside and outside lines. He was one of the few riders that made a pass on the night, albeit on the first lap. He's riding the Chris Holder line and its working well.

Hansii was solid. Not as good as last week, but probably because he wasn't sharp enough from the gate.

Klindt did what was expected from a "super reserve". He scores double figures as long as he is at reserve, and despite his "gating tart" reputation, he was clearly making an effort (albeit futile) when chasing, hence his fall.
Shanes rode better than he scored. He continues to look stylish (reminds me of Steve Schofield) and like Kurtz, he was willing to explore multiple lines when chasing. Again, this proved to be a fruitless task on the slick track, other than his last to second in heat two. His gating has been pretty good too, all things considered.

 

Onwards and upwards I guess. Second year in a row when we've been caught out against Belle Vue by our own track prep. It's the same for everyone, but home riders have an expectation....

Edited April 6, 2017 by Bleeds Pirate Blue

[SteveLyric2]

Yes well done the Aces - you deserved the win, but Poole are not yet out of it with likely r/r for Kerr at the NSS tomorrow.

 

Kurtz looked and was really quick and a lot more 'gutsy' than last year - good improvement. Shanes worth more than what he scored.

 

Heat winners were on average 1 full second faster than last week against Wolves!!

 

KK managing to score more than Chris Holder at KL yet still not happy with his engine or set-up. New engine for next time!!

 

Its not over til its over!! :-)

Edited April 6, 2017 by Skidder1

[Daniel Smith]

one thing Poole have never had problems with is the crowd. I'm guessing people are voting with their feet after the fiasco at the Darcy meeting. If Poole can't get a decent crowd for Belle Vue then they will be very poor against the likes of Leicester and Rye House.

 

I don't think it's just the Darcy meeting.

Also releasing Chris Holder could be a factor with some too

[ray c]

Don't understand the Poole management riding Lewis at 3 in his first meeting surely it would have been better at 2

[Starman2006]

I see Gavan is flooding the Poole thread again.. No supprise there..

[poolebolton]

your fully entitled to that opinion. I think

Fricke is better than Kurtz right now but maybe Kurtz will improve past him. Can't have Ellis being better than Lambert though. Shame Poole moved Adam on after his improvement last season

Yes, I would agree with Fricke is better ATM but Kurtz has such a nice style on a bike.

 

Gavan What do you think about Holder?? I'm not sure what to think yet. But everyone says he is better than Chris. It's early season and last night perhaps wasn't his night which is fair enough considering it's only the second week.

 

 

Ellis and Lambert are the hope though. They have GP potential.

Bates, will get to Danny King/Cook level

Bewley, Shanes,Perks seem the three to me who could also make the grade.

Shanes is awesome to watch with his style on a bike due to grass and long track. I really think he could be a good rider.

[Gavan]

I see Gavan is flooding the Poole thread again.. No supprise there..

nope just having a discussion with adults about the meeting. Nice to know your so concerned about me though

[acef]

Fricke is way ahead of Kurtz.

 

World u21 champion and number 1 in his team. Rides top league in both Poland and Sweden.

 

And I just don't buy the opinion that he will be better in the future. You'd be seeing signs already. Your not

[Gavan]

Yes, I would agree with Fricke is better ATM but Kurtz has such a nice style on a bike.

 

Gavan What do you think about Holder?? I'm not sure what to think yet. But everyone says he is better than Chris. It's early season and last night perhaps wasn't his night which is fair enough considering it's only the second week.

 

 

Ellis and Lambert are the hope though. They have GP potential.

Bates, will get to Danny King/Cook level

Bewley, Shanes,Perks seem the three to me who could also make the grade.

Shanes is awesome to watch with his style on a bike due to grass and long track. I really think he could be a good rider.

 

early to say about Holder but I think he should be doing better at the moment. I personally dont ever see him being as good as Chris. Needs to up his game as the current 1-2 partnership of KK and Holder are the issue at the moment

[Starman2006]

nope just having a discussion with adults about the meeting. Nice to know your so concerned about me though

Not concerned about you at all. Find your waffling very boring. But nice to see your very concerned about us. Shame you can't show bit more concern about your alledged home town club, which is clearly rubbish which is in your case all talk, or lack of it..

Edited April 6, 2017 by Starman2006

[acef]

nope just having a discussion with adults about the meeting. Nice to know your so concerned about me though

I've had a long time away from this board.

 

Imo you talk a lot of sense, certainly about poole, they just don't see it because they're so arrogant

[poolebolton]

Fricke is way ahead of Kurtz.

 

World u21 champion and number 1 in his team. Rides top league in both Poland and Sweden.

 

And I just don't buy the opinion that he will be better in the future. You'd be seeing signs already. Your not

Fricke isn't a top rider. Cook is the number 1 in your team. Fricke hasn't made the grade in England yet. He rides in Poland for a team which is the worst in the league. Lingren and Laguta will keep that team in good shape not fricke. Krystian Pieszczek was a much better rider in that team and will be a future world champ. He will be a GP rider but Kurtz has more potential and is tapping into that because he came to premiership a year later than Fricke.

[Gavan]

Fricke is way ahead of Kurtz.

World u21 champion and number 1 in his team. Rides top league in both Poland and Sweden.

And I just don't buy the opinion that he will be better in the future. You'd be seeing signs already. Your not

ahead yes but not way ahead. It is time now for Kurtz to step up to the next level though

[Starman2006]

Fricke isn't a top rider. Cook is the number 1 in your team. Fricke hasn't made the grade in England yet. He rides in Poland for a team which is the worst in the league. Lingren and Laguta will keep that team in good shape not fricke. Krystian Pieszczek was a much better rider in that team and will be a future world champ. He will be a GP rider but Kurtz has more potential and is tapping into that because he came to premiership a year later than Fricke.

Mate Brady needs to start chasing the better riders its the only way he will improve. Chris did the same and look where he got.

[Gavan]

Not concerned about you at all. Find your waffling very boring. But nice to see your very concerned about us. Shame you can't show bit more concern about your alledged home town club, which is clearly rubbish which is in your case all talk, or lack of it..

i would be on the Ipswich thread but we don't have a meeting thanks. Oh and I live an hour from Ipswich so as you know it's not my home town. Do us a favour and either talk about the meeting or simply shut up

[poolebolton]

early to say about Holder but I think he should be doing better at the moment. I personally dont ever see him being as good as Chris. Needs to up his game as the current 1-2 partnership of KK and Holder are the issue at the moment

KK will up his game, I have faith. Chris Holder was a very inconsistent rider which people seem to forget. Only Magic and Darcy have been on it every day. But Jack, might be a bit like Brady this year. Yesterday was such a boring track, it was safe which is good but it was too safe to ruin the racing. I think Jack Holder needs to get some form a PBoro.