screm Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Are we any closer knowing to where the SWC will be held, few rumours not long ago that it will return to the NSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN 333 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Does anyone know when the big F.I.M. Conference is this winter when all the dates for the 2018 season will be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Does anyone know when the big F.I.M. Conference is this winter when all the dates for the 2018 season will be released. 18-19 november. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Really not sure about these ideas to take the main title to countries like France or Argentina.Countries that don't have GP quality riders.Some years ago i thought ok if it helps promote the sport and make it bigger in those countries,but that just didn't happen in the likes of Croatia or Italy.It is obviously going there for the money.Lesser countries really should make do with U21 championship etc,which is easy enough fr European countries.I do admit the problem of getting Argentina into worldwide competitions is far more difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Really not sure about these ideas to take the main title to countries like France or Argentina.Countries that don't have GP quality riders.Some years ago i thought ok if it helps promote the sport and make it bigger in those countries,but that just didn't happen in the likes of Croatia or Italy.It is obviously going there for the money.Lesser countries really should make do with U21 championship etc,which is easy enough fr European countries.I do admit the problem of getting Argentina into worldwide competitions is far more difficult Trouble is they are running out of places !! staging clubs- like Gorican, Krsko . Daugavpils etc etc need to be able to make a profit on staging a GP and sadly it looks as if they try but it just doesn`t stack up and they say enough is enough. that`s why BSI are always looking for new places to make a few quid for themselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Trouble is they are running out of places !! staging clubs- like Gorican, Krsko . Daugavpils etc etc need to be able to make a profit on staging a GP and sadly it looks as if they try but it just doesn`t stack up and they say enough is enough. that`s why BSI are always looking for new places to make a few quid for themselves Of course.That is no surprise.Humphrey has been stating that for a decade or so,much to Phils chagrin Just waiting for f-s-p to make a bid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) PLENTY of places want a SGP but sadly they are mostly in Poland. Current problems centre around the lack top riders who put bums on seats. If the likes of Rickardsson, Pedersen at his best, Crump, etc were still riding the scenario would be very different. The SGP can only be as good as the riders competing and at present the only country with a healthy stock of talent is, again, Poland. Looks like next year's World Champion will be crowned in Torun, which is a good thing. Edited October 17, 2017 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 PLENTY of places want a SGP but sadly they are mostly in Poland. Current problems centre around the lack top riders who put bums on seats. If the likes of Rickardsson, Pedersen at his best, Crump, etc were still riding the scenario would be very different. The SGP can only be as good as the riders competing and at present the only country with a healthy stock of talent is, again, Poland. Looks like next year's World Champion will be crowned in Torun, which is a good thing. Would agree with most of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Have to disagree (Sorry Phil!) With all the advantages the Polish boys already have I think it isnt ideal to have the final round there. Also think it is such a shame they couldn't make the Etihad work. Superb venue in a wonderful city on a completely Neutral track. Seems a lot fairer and more prestigious to me. And all the riders love going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 PLENTY of places want a SGP but sadly they are mostly in Poland. Current problems centre around the lack top riders who put bums on seats. If the likes of Rickardsson, Pedersen at his best, Crump, etc were still riding the scenario would be very different. The SGP can only be as good as the riders competing and at present the only country with a healthy stock of talent is, again, Poland. Looks like next year's World Champion will be crowned in Torun, which is a good thing. I like the idea of the champ being crowned at a European venue as that is where the vast majority of the GP fan base lies. If it's in Poland so what. How many Poles have won a world title in the last 25 years ? This statistic may improve as they have 4 very good riders in the GP series but it's not certain a Pole will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Torben Olsen, Managing Director of Speedway GP marketer BSI, will be able to present races at several new venues in the future. "But that depends on the interest there," says the Dane. For the third time, the Speedway GP will be on the 28th of October 2017 at the magnificent Etihad Stadium in Melbourne's Docklands. Australia is the only World Cup run outside Europe, since the 1995 Grand Prix there was only one other Overseas GP: in Auckland / New Zealand. In the Western Springs Stadium, from 2012 to 2014, the last race there won sensationally Martin Smolinski, thereby providing the only German Grand Prix victory. Who on earth is proof reading this? I guess FIFA, the ICC and World Rugby would be surprised to learn they've never run a World Cup outside of Europe, and no doubt many other sports too. And as for Auckland being the only other 'Overseas GP', has the ill-fated Sydney GP in 2002 already been air-brushed out of history? But I think the key point is 'depends on the interest there'... namely someone willing to stump up the readies. PLENTY of places want a SGP but sadly they are mostly in Poland. Current problems centre around the lack top riders who put bums on seats. And promoters willing to pay the asking price... Looks like next year's World Champion will be crowned in Torun, which is a good thing. Written off the Australian GP already then...? Also think it is such a shame they couldn't make the Etihad work. Superb venue in a wonderful city on a completely Neutral track. Usual story of the novelty of the first GP at a new venue attracting a half-credible audience, and then nothing being done to build on that, before blaming the local promoters for a lack of effort when they pull the plug in light of unsustainable crowds. Of course, the get out for Melbourne is the stadium has been taken over by the AFL. Edited October 17, 2017 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Having been there last year, I saw zero in the way promotion. I dont believe its BSI's fault alone. But does seem silly to go all that way and not promote it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Who on earth is proof reading this? Probably no-one.I thought it was just a google translate copied and pasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I like the idea of the champ being crowned at a European venue as that is where the vast majority of the GP fan base lies. If there's an Australian GP, it realistically needs to be at the end of the European season. All decent Australian venues will be hosting Aussie Rules and Rugby League from March onwards. Having been there last year, I saw zero in the way promotion. I dont believe its BSI's fault alone. But does seem silly to go all that way and not promote it. Whoever's fault it is, it seems to be recurring pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Of course.That is no surprise.Humphrey has been stating that for a decade or so,much to Phils chagrin Just waiting for f-s-p to make a bid I dont have the money and would not put anyone else's money on the line for this. The "product" is spoiled over here. And it's not BSI's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wales has no speedway clubs but the fans flock to this independent nation so clearly any country could in theory host a round assuming that close by you have a Country that hosts speedway on a regular basis. Why not try France, Spain or Portugal for the end of the season GP finale. As an outside option Cyprus or anywhere in Southern Europe/North Africa where the good weather is guaranteed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Have to disagree (Sorry Phil!) With all the advantages the Polish boys already have I think it isnt ideal to have the final round there. Also think it is such a shame they couldn't make the Etihad work. Superb venue in a wonderful city on a completely Neutral track. Seems a lot fairer and more prestigious to me. And all the riders love going there. NOT sure about your last comment. The novelty has worn off and riders aren't over-enthusiastic about travelling round the world at the end of a tiring season. If NZ does return (not next year) it will hopefully start the season when everyone including riders are fresh and roaring to start a new campaign. Torun, in my view, is perfect for the finale. Terrific stadium and track, full-house making an electric atmosphere, speedway mad town, what's not to like? Probably no-one.I thought it was just a google translate copied and pasted IT was ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wales has no speedway clubs but the fans flock to this independent nation so clearly any country could in theory host a round assuming that close by you have a Country that hosts speedway on a regular basis. Why not try France, Spain or Portugal for the end of the season GP finale. As an outside option Cyprus or anywhere in Southern Europe/North Africa where the good weather is guaranteed. Wales isn't independent,is it?It is part of Britain and it was the British Final that acts as a qualifier for the Cardiff GP and it is riders from the British leagues riding on British passes or licences that enter the British Final.Maybe if the meeting was moved to Dublin then we can say it is held in an independent country..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wales isn't independent,is it?It is part of Britain and it was the British Final that acts as a qualifier for the Cardiff GP and it is riders from the British leagues riding on British passes or licences that enter the British Final.Maybe if the meeting was moved to Dublin then we can say it is held in an independent country..... If you live in Wales you are independent. Why would you wish to associate yourself with the rest ✌️✌️. The point is that given it has no speedway teams and effectively it is Scottish and English teams that are the nearest you get you could in theory draw the same parallel by having it in a non speedway nation in Europe providing it is easy to get to by plane, train, car or shanksy pony. In reality who cares apart from the odd 10000 who bother to trek around Europe (exception being Poland and Wales who manage a few more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) If you live in Wales you are independent. Think they tried with letter bombs back in the 70s and failed miserably.If you live in wales you hold the same passport as someone in England or Scotland until things change,which doesn't seem realistic.You are comparing apples and kiwi fruit The fact is Wales did have a speedway team running at the same time Cardiff was on the GP schedule.....because that closed down we now only have Cardiff Edited October 17, 2017 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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