R87 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) To be fair the PA outside was so bad in the first part of the meeting then you wouldn't have been able to hear any announcements even if it was made. I stand on the last bend and could barely hear a thing from the box. A real mixture of a meeting. The first five or six heats were pretty dull and the long delays between didn't help. The turning point seemed to be Freddies ruthless move on Kurtz. After than, we saw some terrific action. However, we certainly need to improve our gating when the league action starts. Other than Thorssell (who was exceptional) Poole were far better out of the start. Edited March 28, 2017 by mb1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Forgetting who allegedly screwed up with the format for a moment the really poor show is that the Wolves OS has a match report but sod all explanation as to what's gone on. The promotion cannot possibly be unaware of the uncertainty amongst their supporters so one can only assume they're using the 'keep quiet and hope it goes away' method. Get your facts right before you have a whinge. This is the equivalent of football's season opener, league winners v cup winners. In speedway terms it's a glorified challenge match. Even when told still ploughed on in ignorance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Poole need to use last years format now, it would make the competition even more of a joke than it already is. Irrelevant. Poole's programme will already be printed. Anyway we will all know on Wednesday. If they have chosen to use last season's format for just this competition it still doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Poole need to use last years format now, it would make the competition even more of a joke than it already is. With this seasons riding order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 With this seasons riding order You can't use two different race formats for one competition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 To be fair the PA outside was so bad in the first part of the meeting then you wouldn't have been able to hear any announcements even if it was made. I stand on the last bend and could barely hear a thing from the box. I was in the stadium from 6.30 and could hear perfectly announcements from my stand point. It's the radio show with Dicky Dodd till 7.30 who is in no position to give official news. Which he didn't. No mention of the race format during introductions or prior to heat 1 or at any time during the meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 You can't use two different race formats for one competition Don't bet on it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Wolves fan by any chance? Still makes the sport image awful and if unpunished proves how badly speedway needs a separate governing body Yep a Wolves fan and proud of it but not blinkered like Shovlar. Clearly the Wolves management must be at fault, either by 1. sending the wrong format to the printer or 2. not proof reading the draft. If the old format was used then Poole have benefited by their reserves having more protected rides than this years format. Hence those who made the mistake have suffered by it, all equitable one could say. As regards making the image awful, I would ask to whom? The match was not televised, the majority of fans there would not understand, or probably care, about the nuances of the change in formula. The presenter Porky every week asks if there any people new to speedway, and there were a few. They wouldn't even be aware that there had been a change in formula. So yes it was an error/mistake but hardly a capital offence for a challenge match. For me the main point we got the meeting on, and it was enjoyable with good racing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Yep a Wolves fan and proud of it but not blinkered like Shovlar. Clearly the Wolves management must be at fault, either by 1. sending the wrong format to the printer or 2. not proof reading the draft. If the old format was used then Poole have benefited by their reserves having more protected rides than this years format. Hence those who made the mistake have suffered by it, all equitable one could say. As regards making the image awful, I would ask to whom? The match was not televised, the majority of fans there would not understand, or probably care, about the nuances of the change in formula. The presenter Porky every week asks if there any people new to speedway, and there were a few. They wouldn't even be aware that there had been a change in formula. So yes it was an error/mistake but hardly a capital offence for a challenge match. For me the main point we got the meeting on, and it was enjoyable with good racing. Its certainly not Pooles reserves that need protecting. wolves reserves must be the weakest in the league. They both need all the help they can get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Its certainly not Pooles reserves that need protecting. wolves reserves must be the weakest in the league. They both need all the help they can get! Whoosh ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Its certainly not Pooles reserves that need protecting. wolves reserves must be the weakest in the league. They both need all the help they can get! Missed the point completely. The old formula (used last night) benefits teams like Poole with a strong reserve with 2 protected heats. Poole benefited last night by using the old formula. And yet still lost by 10 because of the failings of the 1-5. Sounds familiar tho doesn't it? Cough cough play offs splutter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Missed the point completely. The old formula (used last night) benefits teams like Poole with a strong reserve with 2 protected heats. Poole benefited last night by using the old formula. And yet still lost by 10 because of the failings of the 1-5. Sounds familiar tho doesn't it? Cough cough play offs splutter. Still trying to gloat about beating half a team in the playoffs? Only way you won last year is because we had riders out and you know it. Make the most of it cause Wolves ain't going to win anything this season. Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Missed the point completely. The old formula (used last night) benefits teams like Poole with a strong reserve with 2 protected heats. Poole benefited last night by using the old formula. And yet still lost by 10 because of the failings of the 1-5. Sounds familiar tho doesn't it? Cough cough play offs splutter. Oh dear, one meeting into the season and you are already biting and getting arrogant! Shame Tai won't be there to save you this time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Well I cocked up with what cup it is so I don't care what format it was run in lol I'll go back to my championship level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Still trying to gloat about beating half a team in the playoffs? Only way you won last year is because we had riders out and you know it. Make the most of it cause Wolves ain't going to win anything this season. Lol! still trying to make excuses for your inept play off performance despite bringing in a GP rider on a false average?? PMSFL. We were the best team in the play offs and you know it. If we ain't gonna win anything this season looks like Poole will do worse judging on last night's showing. no doubt the rules will be fiddled to replace Newman with a higher averaged rider 'in the interest of (Poole) speedway'. Oh dear, one meeting into the season and you are already biting and getting arrogant! Shame Tai won't be there to save you this time It's not getting arrogant pointing out facts. True regards Tai, but then you can't bring Lindback or Greg back either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Forecast is for a dry day tomorrow if overcast. The track should have nicely recovered from the pounding it received last week and we should hopefully see Poole lift the first trophy of the season. I guess its going to have to be r/r for Kyle again. Be interesting to see if Wolves gamble with Skornicki or stick with r/r who should get them extra points with Masters and Howarth able to take rides. With KK likely to score double figures, backed up with Andersen, and Klindt at reserve able to take 7 rides, we should be able to pull back the deficit. James Shanes has yet to do one single lap at Wimborne Road so I hope there's a behind closed doors session for the lad tomorrow afternoon. Only 12 quid to get in tomorrow as well. Expect a few coaches coming down from Wolverhampton in the hope their team defends their lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Yep a Wolves fan and proud of it but not blinkered like Shovlar. Clearly the Wolves management must be at fault, either by 1. sending the wrong format to the printer or 2. not proof reading the draft. If the old format was used then Poole have benefited by their reserves having more protected rides than this years format. Hence those who made the mistake have suffered by it, all equitable one could say. As regards making the image awful, I would ask to whom? The match was not televised, the majority of fans there would not understand, or probably care, about the nuances of the change in formula. The presenter Porky every week asks if there any people new to speedway, and there were a few. They wouldn't even be aware that there had been a change in formula. So yes it was an error/mistake but hardly a capital offence for a challenge match. For me the main point we got the meeting on, and it was enjoyable with good racing. Except we're meant to be a serious sport now that people can bet on. By messing up the format they had a serious effect on betting. A footballer was sacked a few weeks ago for eating a pie that effected betting, surely this is far more serious?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 It doen't make the slightest difference that the racing was good, or who benefitted from using the wrong format . The fact remained the format was wrong and the meeting should be either rerun or forfeited. In the AGM, the promotors agreed and formulated a new programme for the coming year. A new format was introduced together with restriction for team construction. Rules were released informing promoters of their responsibility. Team Managers have for freedom of rider positions. this represented a total change from what we have been using for the last 3 years. This was the first Meeting using these new rules. But wait, Wolves have decided to do it differently, They want to use all the new team rules but revert back to last years format... This is a cock-up of epic proportions. and needs to be reprimanded ASAP..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Oh dear, one meeting into the season and you are already biting and getting arrogant! Shame Tai won't be there to save you this time Long season Lisa, its a marathon not a sprint. Mind i doubt brum could even sprint.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) still trying to make excuses for your inept play off performance despite bringing in a GP rider on a false average?? PMSFL. We were the best team in the play offs and you know it. If we ain't gonna win anything this season looks like Poole will do worse judging on last night's showing. no doubt the rules will be fiddled to replace Newman with a higher averaged rider 'in the interest of (Poole) speedway'. It's not getting arrogant pointing out facts. True regards Tai, but then you can't bring Lindback or Greg back either. Don't want Lindback back if last season is anything to go by!! What rule can be fiddled to get someone better than Kyle Newman, quite impressed by the other Kyle last night though, thought he rode well. Edited March 28, 2017 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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