stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 How can he wrong format be allowed to be used? We have people betting on the sport and this kind of rubbish is allowed to happen It's an assumption. Guess we will know Wednesday if the shield is being ridden on old format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just got back and pretty well pleased with the result. All to play for in the second leg with Poole far far superior at reserve and KK will come to play on a more regular speedway track.  Good weather if cold. Meeting dragged out far to long. No need for an interval after all the delays with riders having two or three on the trot.  Think Poole are unlucky to be ten down. Holders move under Clegg was fine but Clegg bailed it knowing he had lost the spot and vardy fell for it. The wolves fans all around me were suprised Holder was excluded. Kurtz was leading one heat when Andersen was clipped by Howarth and in the rerun completely missed the start. Also thought Shanes got Clegg on the line by half a wheel but was at 45 degrees to the starting gate.  With Poole always having a strong reserve it gives us a decent advantage over team lie Woves who have two sitting ducks.  Some decent racing with Thorsell untouchable tonight. May be a different story in 48 hours time.  Special mention to Shanes who looked lie he was crapping hiself before the meeting but rode like a little bulldog. Fully desered his points.  If the Poole program is already printed it will be in the new format, which will make everything ludicrous. How the hell can Wolves let this happen? Ridiculous doesn't begin to cover it if it was supposed to be in the 'new' format. A bit like the track at Poole last friday I guess. Wolves and Poole should be heavily fined for both racing under the incorrect format or both results should be void and both clubs thrown out of the Elite Shield.  What a mockery the sport has sunk too, can you imagine premier league football where Chelsea show 15 players in their starting line up to play against West Hams 11, oh but its been printed.  BSPA cannot get any worse than this, lets close the doors,now to this dead sport, bunch of morons, piss up and brewery spring to mind  Bspa could fall into the gran canyon full of titties and emerge sucking their thumbs, oh man I can't even sleep now Who will win it then in that case? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Why does this sport continuely shoot itself in the foot. Whatever the reason for the programme printout, it was wrong. This year, It was decided to use a said format, therefore changes the emphasis on the reserves accordingly. It wouldn't have taken long to have reprinted a centre sheet to replace that, printed in the programme. We see them every time we have a cancellation. But this 'It'll do Attitude' is disgraceful. Now having run the first leg to the old format, the second leg has to be run the same way, other wise fairness goes out of the window. What happens now if Poole have had their programs printed already?? Â When is this sport going to be run in a professional manner, when at last, we might bring some common sense into the proceeding... Â Utter shambles ...... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Why didn't they just change the lineups throughout the programme if it was wrong, all the fans had to do was put riders initials in, not that difficult imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's an assumption. Guess we will know Wednesday if the shield is being ridden on old format. It's must have been an error, otherwise Wolves rode illegally under the old format since Thorssell should have been at 1,3 or 5. Â Would imagine Rowe was on the money with his post on social media. He generally knows what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 CB252  Think you'll find both clubs rode under the old format  Both clubs should be kicked out if the sport is to have any integrity or fined would mean next round someone gets abye to the final but could be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 CB252 Think you'll find both clubs rode under the old format Both clubs should be kicked out if the sport is to have any integrity or fined would mean next round someone gets abye to the final but could be worse Poole's riding order complied with the old format though. Â This is the final of this particular competition so no next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Oh thought it was the ko cup maybe thats just championship then  In this case maybe Wolves should receive a fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 CB252  Think you'll find both clubs rode under the old format  Both clubs should be kicked out if the sport is to have any integrity or fined would mean next round someone gets abye to the final but could be worse Get your facts right before you have a whinge. This is the equivalent of football's season opener, league winners v cup winners. In speedway terms it's a glorified challenge match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Wolves fan by any chance? Â Still makes the sport image awful and if unpunished proves how badly speedway needs a separate governing body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWolves Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I thought last night was a really entertaining meeting, better than is often the case at this early stage of the season. A very well prepared track was a big factor in that, quite an achievement given the lack of rain in the area over the last week. Â Thorsell was excellent and looks set to be another Swede off the treadmill for Wolves that looks capable of beating any rider in the world on his home track. Lets hope he can become a genuine heat leader away from home too. Freddie also rode well as did Masters after blowing the cobwebs away in his first two rides. And Howarth looked to have made a real step up on last season. Wolves did look weak at reserve but not many clubs have a rider as experienced as Klindt at reserve to exploit that. Â Will be close on aggregate as Kasprzak, Kurtz and Holder will all score better at Wimborne Road but I can see Wolves just about winning it overall. As for the season, Wolves certainly have one of the better top 5's in the league but need to get their share of points from the reserves. Clegg needs to keep improving as he did last season, while Greaves rode ok last night, and at least at home should have the beating of some of the other reserves in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's must have been an error, otherwise Wolves rode illegally under the old format since Thorssell should have been at 1,3 or 5. Would imagine Rowe was on the money with his post on social media. He generally knows what's going on. Or as is usual clubs used the rules to suit. Used the Old format but applied new race format rules. Either way poor communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Is it possible they decided to run the shield in the old format as it relates to last season. Â Enjoyed the meeting overall although the two 5-1's at the end were disappointing and why there were such large gaps between races at the start was puzzling and annoying, some good races though and Jack Holder very unlucky to get excluded, he seemed to improve as the meeting progressed. Brady started well and getting pushed towards the fence by Lindgren i don't think helped his confidence but was on the pace in most races. KK was his usual self at Monmore, Hans rode well particularly when winning heat 11. Shanes rode well and really think he could make a decent rider. Klindt rode better than i expected which was a bonus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Is it possible they decided to run the shield in the old format as it relates to last season. Â Â Â Exactly, of course it's possible and highly likely given how the BSPA run. Obviously if Poole run the same format we will know and people can stop spewing bile about Wolves being in the wrong. Either way pathetic communication to the most important people ...... The fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Is it possible they decided to run the shield in the old format as it relates to last season But they didn't fully employ last seasons format. It was the heat format from last year with subsequent rules on riding positions discarded. Â Did the BSPA really come up with a hybrid set of rules just for two matches! Â Wednesday won't really prove a lot either as Poole have time to reprint the prog before tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Exactly, of course it's possible and highly likely given how the BSPA run. Obviously if Poole run the same format we will know and people can stop spewing bile about Wolves being in the wrong. Either way pathetic communication to the most important people ...... The fans. Them orange tinted glasses are on again. It was a monumental cock up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Surely the two managers were happy with the way it was going to be run else wouldn't one of them bought it up before the meeting started.Unless none of them actually knew the rules anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 What I don't understand is that if the programme was printed wrong, surely they could of just got some inserts printed using the correct format? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Them orange tinted glasses are on again. It was a monumental cock up. Â If you provide a link that proves wrong doing last night you might have a point. I take it you won't have one. However just to prove I don't wear tinted glasses I will be the first to say if it was a printing error it would an absolutely ridiculous situation to have allowed to happen. I take it you have seen Wednesdays Poole programme with the original format in then seeing as you are so confident. I'd hate to think you were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 If you provide a link that proves wrong doing last night you might have a point. I take it you won't have one. However just to prove I don't wear tinted glasses I will be the first to say if it was a printing error it would an absolutely ridiculous situation to have allowed to happen. I take it you have seen Wednesdays Poole programme with the original format in then seeing as you are so confident. I'd hate to think you were wrong. Poole need to use last years format now, it would make the competition even more of a joke than it already is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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