Crazy robin Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I think the draught scheme was a good idea and the way forward, though needed more tweaking. I don't think its a god idea we end up with riders like Klindt at reserve when it should be a young Brit. And riders like Adam we almost hung out to dry having been lumbered with an excessive average. You can hang that one on Mick Horton who argued vehemently against any adjustment because Adam didn't have a PL average. Whats the betting they have taken the same stance as Matt Ford? Yet you'll be cheering Klindt on just like the season Freddie Erickson was a reserve Steve. Both had Ford by the balls to get a great deal better than their ability as they were League changers. For the likes of Sargent & Stefan Nielsen to not have a ride in any league & Adam to thank Rosco for one things do need to change. Matt would've had Adam if he had got an average reduction but not on his proper average if also what's wrong with the sport. Just hope Adam remembers that in the future. All the average manipulation has turned fans away long before Poland brought their new rules in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I don't think his Danish team will have had to sign anything. I think I read that a rider's home nation league still takes priority over the Extraliga. His Swedish team will have to have signed though...Having said that, they are fairly safe in signing as Poland are unlikely to reschedule any matches for a Swedish league Tuesday. Don`t think that`s quite right Henry, the Polish extraleague contract as I understand it requires the riders priority over all other league commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 It's a bit rich blaming the Aussies when our own British world champion continues to shaft British speedway after we "trained him" and even bent the rules keeping him at reserve in his first NL season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 It's a bit rich blaming the Aussies when our own British world champion continues to shaft British speedway after we "trained him" and even bent the rules keeping him at reserve in his first NL season What Woffinden has done to British speedway is beyond contempt. Utter disgrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 And they'll still cheer him on at Cardiff .... boo him or better still give him the silent treatment .... Who wants a World Champion we never see, ok never see more than twice a year ha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 And they'll still cheer him on at Cardiff .... boo him or better still give him the silent treatment .... Who wants a World Champion we never see, ok never see more than twice a year ha? Twice a year? Can only think of Cardiff. Don't forget he now refuses to represent his country. And some still defend him. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I don't think many people really begrudge riders earning where they can - its the priority issue that is causing the problem. NKI states in this week's Star that he wanted to ride in the UK this year but couldn't due to the Polish rules. He feels riders should ride in as many leagues as they want!! Aside from the obvious risks of 'burn-out' (which NKI acknowledges), surely its all about the terms of the contract that each rider has with their respective club(s). If a rider can't give the kind of commitment to the club that offers the contract then the club shouldn't sign him!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) And they'll still cheer him on at Cardiff .... boo him or better still give him the silent treatment .... Who wants a World Champion we never see, ok never see more than twice a year ha? He was booed at Belle vue in the play offs and there were chants of who are you down to the fact that he had turned his back on British speedway and we never see him anymore.He was only riding because his Polish and Swedish teams were out of the plays offs and it was the only way he could earn some money.What did he expect that we would be so grateful to see him ride that we would cheer the roof off. He hated it responding with hand gestures to the crowd and then called the Belle vue fans scum on twitter. I know this is water under the bridge but for turning his back on British speedway the way he has(world cup British final etc) he deserves the same response at Cardiff. Edited March 17, 2017 by B.V 72 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 He was booed at Belle vue in the play offs and there were chants of who are you down to the fact that he had turned his back on British speedway and we never see him anymore.He was only riding because his Polish and Swedish teams were out of the plays offs and it was the only way he could earn some money.What did he expect that we would be so grateful to see him ride that we would cheer the roof off. He hated it responding with hand gestures to the crowd and then called the Belle vue fans scum on twitter. I know this is water under the bridge but for turning his back on British speedway the way he has(world cup British final etc) he deserves the same response at Cardiff. I don't agree with him turning his back on British speedway either but he is no different to all the top guys who had a huge chunk of their speedway education in the UK. That said he will still receive the biggest cheer at Cardiff and remains hugely popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I don't agree with him turning his back on British speedway either but he is no different to all the top guys who had a huge chunk of their speedway education in the UK. That said he will still receive the biggest cheer at Cardiff and remains hugely popular. He is different. He claims he is British. As a world champion who is British he is obligated to ride in the UK. But he snubs his nose at the UK and refuses to give anything back or help promote the sport in the UK. But it wasn't for the UK he would probably be some tattood oik working in Aldi. Yet he can't be arsed to ride in our league unless it suits him (other leagues finished). He can't be arsed to ride in the British Final. He can't even be arsed to ride for his country. He might get the biggest cheer at Cardiff but that's from once a year fans who only attend Cardiff. If they knew how he treats British fans and our league he would certainly hear the boos echoing around Cardiff. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 He is different. He claims he is British. As a world champion who is British he is obligated to ride in the UK. But he snubs his nose at the UK and refuses to give anything back or help promote the sport in the UK. But it wasn't for the UK he would probably be some tattood oik working in Aldi. Yet he can't be arsed to ride in our league unless it suits him (other leagues finished). He can't be arsed to ride in the British Final. He can't even be arsed to ride for his country. He might get the biggest cheer at Cardiff but that's from once a year fans who only attend Cardiff. If they knew how he treats British fans and our league he would certainly hear the boos echoing around Cardiff. He doesn't claim to be British, he is. Don't speculate what those attending Cardiff know or don't know. Anyone has a right to applaud their best British rider in many years, equally there is a small minority that have turned their back on supporting him. Both are valid choices. Let's not forget his isn't the first British rider to have turned their back on the UK league at one point or another. Simon Wigg, Scott Nicholls and Lee Richardson all did so too. We all agree that the BSPA doesn't do enough for British speedway. Tai appears to feel the same! Looks like he has a lot in common with plenty of us too! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadiecat1999 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 well said steve spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Depends what you want from your weekly speedway fix. To see some of the best young Aussie talent (albeit until they pack their rucksacks and head over to Poland), or a team made up of Brits and lower rate Danes/Swedes. Speedway is an entertainment business. You want the best riders possible over here. There may be one or two Brits who will make the grade, but many will never be above Championship reserve class. "Team GB" is a bit of a nonsense. An excuse to get the Union flags out for a week or so during the World Cup. The rest of the time we're cheering on our own sides made up mostly of foreigners. Unless you're a Rye House fan, good to see mainly Brits in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Twice a year? Can only think of Cardiff. Don't forget he now refuses to represent his country. And some still defend him. Unbelievable. Yes, true, twice up to this year ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 TW is terrific a speedway talent and would have flourished if he had stayed in Australia rather than coming here to develop his ability. There were powerful family ties in doing that as well. I regret very much that he has turned his back - for now - on riding for GB but I do love to watch him in the GPs. Riders have always gone where the money is and the other major regret I have is that promoters over the last twenty years seem to have not much bothered about the crowd levels - until the millions from Sky came to a halt. So we are the "poor men" of European speedway nowadays when it comes to attracting the top riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 The two top Aussies, Doyley and Noddy, still ride here, with a few other Gp riders. Unfortunately its not the 70s now and the Poles can shout the loudest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 They can shout the loudest but it doesnt mean the UK cant protect their interests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Time to put brits first? Look at how many 2-3 pointers there are next season? Hopefully all will progress in 2-3 years by becoming 4-6 point men maybe the odd one progressing into more... Then next season half dozen more 2-3 pointers will emerge and within 5-10 years we'll have lots of british riders maybe not world beaters but sustaining british speedway Bspa tho needs to have fans in this time otherwise there is no sport And, it needs to develope uk talent, why it does not have say 16 bikes with 4 spares, all maintained by a chosen company and they use these machines for national individual championships for under 19's And hosting numerous experience/talent days where kids from anywhere including grass track, motox, road racing etc can "have a go" and are encouraged to We could unearth a bucket load of riders and compared to other domestix motorsport in speedway you get points money and travel.. there are around 150 kids that race 125 road bikes in the uk..... no prize money and all it is is cost cost cost Maybe these kids could be really good on a speedway bike, its one thing watching rossi and wanting to be like him none ever will bar one lucky rider every so many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 The one truly world class rider GB has produced (TW) has moved abroad. It would be the same for any future GB star - Poland pays 5 times what they can earn in the U.K. so you cannot blame a rider for maximising their income in what is a short and dangerous career. What is gaulling is this Polish directive applying to All riders of any standard - as much as Jack Holder has potential he needs to get their first and time spent in the UK should be his first commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I have no problem with Woffinden not riding in the EL at all, it's his perogative and the lighter schedule has worked for him at World Championship level. But he should be riding in the British Championshipd British Championships and for Team GB, no excuses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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