Crump99 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 This is a good point, however many people are happy to stand and could the club actually be missing a trick here as i believe they would earn more from offering free parking and charging a pound for the grandstand. That'd see off a few more regulars so that's some trick. The car parking was originally brought in to contribute to the clubs SRBF donation. Not sure when it actually got subsumed into running costs. Peterborough Speedway is, and always has been, the free stand. I never understand why people don't make use of that and choose to freeze outside. Anyway, don't give the showground ideas, they'd probably do both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 That'd see off a few more regulars so that's some trick. The car parking was originally brought in to contribute to the clubs SRBF donation. Not sure when it actually got subsumed into running costs. Peterborough Speedway is, and always has been, the free stand. I never understand why people don't make use of that and choose to freeze outside. Anyway, don't give the showground ideas, they'd probably do both. Good old Jonathan he is a chip of the old block isn't he, at Lynn they charge you to sit down and do not even provide a roof. As for most people enjoy standing, what bloody planet are you on Chapman, most of the speedway supporters are middle aged plus, they like to sit down mate with a hot drink in one hand and a programme board in the other. A few years ago you were a promoter with a raft of supposedly bright ideas, just remind us how did that end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Theboss Posted March 21, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Good old Jonathan he is a chip of the old block isn't he, at Lynn they charge you to sit down and do not even provide a roof. As for most people enjoy standing, what bloody planet are you on Chapman, most of the speedway supporters are middle aged plus, they like to sit down mate with a hot drink in one hand and a programme board in the other. A few years ago you were a promoter with a raft of supposedly bright ideas, just remind us how did that end. So you choose to make your comments personal,well done for bringing a good discussion down to the level that is not productive. However now you ask my days as promoter ended very successfully thank you, 10 major trophies in total plus increased gates year on year. A successful re launch of the shared events which produced a 300% increase in profits year on year. Also won promotion of the year as voted for by the riders. Sure their is more success stories to add but don't want to bore you.... Hope that clears everything up. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) So you choose to make your comments personal,well done for bringing a good discussion down to the level that is not productive. However now you ask my days as promoter ended very successfully thank you, 10 major trophies in total plus increased gates year on year. A successful re launch of the shared events which produced a 300% increase in profits year on year. Also won promotion of the year as voted for by the riders. Sure their is more success stories to add but don't want to bore you.... Hope that clears everything up. Crikey, with a CV like that it sort of beggars belief why you are discussing car park charges on the BSF as opposed to being the chairman of the BSPA and completely turning around the sport in this country. Edited March 21, 2017 by bigcatdiary 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Crikey, with a CV like that it sort of beggars belief why you are discussing car park charges on the BSF as opposed to being the chairman of the BSPA and taking the sport by storm. Possibly because the promoters didn't like being told they could and should do better Their attitude is not unlike some fans to be honest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 my pictures from the meeting here >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_womble/albums/72157678251728804 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 The car parking was originally brought in to contribute to the clubs SRBF donation. Not sure when it actually got subsumed into running costs. Thinking again about that, it was probably runnings costs anyway as a contribution to the Colin Horton benefit fund. We wouldn't have swallowed that so the SRBF was a good cover. Thinking about a quid to sit though, the abolition of free standing at the back that's always been there created enough stink, imagine charging an exta quid and policing that in the 2200 seater stand - good luck with that idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 So you choose to make your comments personal,well done for bringing a good discussion down to the level that is not productive. However now you ask my days as promoter ended very successfully thank you, 10 major trophies in total plus increased gates year on year. A successful re launch of the shared events which produced a 300% increase in profits year on year. Also won promotion of the year as voted for by the riders. Sure their is more success stories to add but don't want to bore you.... Hope that clears everything up. And how many elite league titles did you win. I promise the answer won't bore me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) And how many elite league titles did you win. I promise the answer won't bore me. During the two years I spent in the Elite League before leaving we did not win any. However we did make the play offs twice, and whilst that is not mind blowing I would say it was a pretty good achievement considering we kept things profitable and wasn't throwing away money hand over fist whilst trying to buy ourselves a title..... just as some promoters you may know have in the past Edited March 21, 2017 by jchapman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 During the two years I spent in the Elite League before leaving we did not win any. However we did make the play offs twice, and whilst that is not mind blowing I would say it was a pretty good achievement considering we kept things profitable and wasn't throwing away money hand over fist whilst trying to buy ourselves a title..... just as some promoters you may know have in the past Supporters remember titles not what the costs were involved . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Supporters remember titles not what the costs were involved .Do supporters also remember when promoters go bust and are left panicking over whether they will have a club to support the following season? Or maybe supporters remember when their wealthy owners get fed up playing with their toy and decide to walk away? Edited March 21, 2017 by jchapman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Why don't you start knocking other clubs for parking charges. £1 seems reasonable to me compared to what others charge . As an example Edinburgh charge £2 there not alone in charging over £1 there are others. Peterborough has a proper hard standing car park not all others are up to this standard including your once beloved Kings Lynn. It's free to park at Rye House, but it'll cost you a new tyre, or worst case scenario new suspension 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Do supporters also remember when promoters go bust and are left panicking over whether they will have a club to support the following season? Or maybe supporters remember when their wealthy owners get fed up playing with their toy and decide to walk away? We remember wealthy owners who did their best, put their money where their mouth is and put on a decent show despite the BSPA doing it's best to leave us without a club to support. Those wealthy owners' riders stopped many a promoter's panic I seem to recall. Your last line helps to explain up why speedway is where it is these days. Edited March 21, 2017 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Do supporters also remember when promoters go bust and are left panicking over whether they will have a club to support the following season? Or maybe supporters remember when their wealthy owners get fed up playing with their toy and decide to walk away? I can remember getting shafted by clubs during the winter of discontent when one of our neighbours took their 10 pieces of silver. On the subject of promoters going bust, it never ceases to amaze me that we always seem to have a steady stream of both the rich and not so rich new owners who are all willing to attempt and give it a go thinking they can turn it around with Plymouth, Leicester and Belle Vue the obvious ones over this winter. As for promoters getting fed up playing with their toys and walking away I rather suspect the real concern is supporters walking away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 I can remember getting shafted by clubs during the winter of discontent when one of our neighbours took their 10 pieces of silver. Seeing that i was a central part of the negotiation my memory is certainly more accurate and vivid. It certainly wasn't 10 pieces of silver, just a guarantee that we could loan riders for three years and not forced to buy them. No other special treatment. However i can imagine it would be easy to blame the stars for what was a massive miserror of judgment by others. Don't get me wrong, massive problems have always been prominent in the sport and it needs sorting. But i believe it was unfortunate that the wrong moves were made that winter to fix them I agree on your other comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 for what was a massive miserror of judgment by others. Which was and by whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Which was and by whom? Nice attempt at fishing but not leaving myself open for libel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) it never ceases to amaze me that we always seem to have a steady stream of both the rich and not so rich new owners who are all willing to attempt and give it a go I'd agree with that. More amazing in the supremo's case as he allegedly paid 200k up front without a great CV to suggest that that was the wisest investment Nice attempt at fishing but not leaving myself open for libel. You threw the bait, I just took a bite to see what happens? Nothing much so I'm with BCD, as are many Panthers fans You'll have to unlike that now (or I could say: edit - jc only likes the supremo post ) - nope, scared him off Guess I'll have to wait for the Rick Frost autobiography: boats, trains and the impossible job! Edited March 22, 2017 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Nice attempt at fishing but not leaving myself open for libel. That is a revealing post in itself. Recounting events can hardly constitute a libel, so this seems to imply that any version of events that you might recount would impune the motives of one or more participants in the events. As to errors of judgement there are probably three principal candidates: 1) the decision to change the rules in a way that disadvantaged Coventry 2) expelling Coventry and Peterborough from the league when they walked out of the AGM 3) the decision to fight Coventry and Peterborough once they threatened legal action 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Seeing that i was a central part of the negotiation my memory is certainly more accurate and vivid. It certainly wasn't 10 pieces of silver, just a guarantee that we could loan riders for three years and not forced to buy them. No other special treatment. However i can imagine it would be easy to blame the stars for what was a massive miserror of judgment by others. You are being very economical with the truth Jonathan, I recall a lot if what went on around that time and Peterborough and Coventry were well and truly shafted and not just money wise as you well know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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