uk_martin Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Perhaps promotions ought to also supply as an alternative, a simple A4 racecard, with just basic content. Team's, Meeting Races, Track Details, Track Record... Charge a nominal fee of 20p.... I think filling in a Racecard is an integral part of the enjoyment for a good percentage of attending fans...If a hundred buy the simple racecard, as apposed to buying nothing, that's better than losing revenue of 100 x 20p who buy nowt.. Just my opinion.. An awful lot of fuss for the sake of 100 x 20p = £20.00 of revenue. And what if you were to charge 20p? All you'd get is the usual suspects on BSF complaining about 20p for an A4 sheet of paper that they can download for free off BSF...You (nobody) can win with this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Perhaps promotions ought to also supply as an alternative, a simple A4 racecard, with just basic content. Team's, Meeting Races, Track Details, Track Record... Charge a nominal fee of 20p.... I think filling in a Racecard is an integral part of the enjoyment for a good percentage of attending fans... The full souvenir programmes are more suited to the full time followers.... If a hundred buy the simple racecard, as apposed to buying nothing, that's better than losing revenue of 100 x 20p who buy nowt.. Just my opinion.. For a couple of years at Lynn I wanted to keep the costs of programmes down so decided to produce in house an A3 full colour print out which was folded twice so it looked like a normal programme, and sold this for just £1. I basically cut out all advertising (apart from race sponsors) so all nearly all the content from a 16 page programme was squeezed in. Because it was printed at the stadium on the day of the racing the team line ups were right 99% of the time. I measured success in the amount we sold which was around 700 for every 1000 people attending compared to 450 previously. Feedback from hardcare fans was negative because they like the traditional programme, however the numbers did not lie and I felt it helped keep costs for fans down which could also have been contributing to the growing gates. Not sure what format was reverted to after I left the club. It was a shame Speedway Star review always placed it last as they clearly had no commercial awareness and never asked me once the reasons behind the design. ps Sheffield used to produce racecards many moons ago to give away for free with admission, a great idea by Machin at the time! Don't put that on TripAdvisor..No one will come! That is the point Lukas, we live in a world where people DO post their reviews on their experiences and have every right to. I have noticed a significant improvement in customer service at restaurants over the years and I put this down to the influence of reviews on sites such as Tripadvisor, basically managers know they can not risk a bad review so bend over backwards to make sure EVERY customer has a good experience. In my opinion supporters are constantly blackmailed by clubs to bring friends along or the club may not survive another season, shame they do not get things right so we are bringing friends along for the right reasons, just like when you invite friends out for a meal at a good restaurant. Comments in field Big Cat, in response to those comments may I ask if 'well they did it so that makes it ok for us to do it' is really a good argument for anything in life? I do not expect to pay for parking anywhere except where land/space is at a premium eg a city centre. I can not comment on anything at Lynn in past 4 years as I have not been there but before that the queue always moved fast and only a small handful of occasions was a start delayed by 10 minutes because of it. The crowd was not as big as you make out and fact is they failed to plan otherwise they would have had the other windows prepped and opened before the queue developed. Lets hope they learn from it. Edited March 20, 2017 by jchapman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Some would buy both, and keep the souvenir programme in Mint condition, and insert the completed racecard, for posterity.. Or fill in the basic racecard, then copy the results into the souvenir programme at home, minus any errors, so do have a couple of secondary uses... Would seem a win win to me. Of course people can just download and print off their own sheets if cost bothers them that much. I prefer a programme and it's all part of the experience to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 TBH I don't even bother with programmes where ever I go. Internet, and also being sad to know who will be in what heat anyway. Parking is down to showground I believe, as that's been asked before, and its beyond Geds control. Food has and will always be overpriced, again, the showground, no options either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 it didn't really matter what Kevlars the riders chose to wear. I disagree... when you're fighting a campaign for the identity of a club, the least they could have done was turn up in team colours with that race jacket worn over the top from what I saw of the programme... I saw it over somebody's shoulder... it even had a column by the club mascots, pinky and perky or whatever their names are... £2.70 well saved I'd say Also, another annoyance... was told to sit down by the H&S Nazi's on patrol, I generally like to stand at the top of the stand out of everybody's way, have always done this at Peterborough... and now apparently it's not safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 I disagree... when you're fighting a campaign for the identity of a club, the least they could have done was turn up in team colours with that race jacket worn over the top from what I saw of the programme... I saw it over somebody's shoulder... it even had a column by the club mascots, pinky and perky or whatever their names are... £2.70 well saved I'd say Also, another annoyance... was told to sit down by the H&S Nazi's on patrol, I generally like to stand at the top of the stand out of everybody's way, have always done this at Peterborough... and now apparently it's not safe You wasn't allowed to last season, and the Showground threatened to stop Peterborough Panthers using the EOES if fans continued to do so. Yes, its pretty pathetic, but welcome to the world we live in, where individuals will try and do anything for a trip and a claim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Parking is down to showground I believe, as that's been asked before, and its beyond Geds control. Even if it is down to the showground that would be because it has not been negotiated in the rental terms to be included in the price, therefore it is within the clubs control and they have chosen to get a reduced rent knowing the fans will have to pay. Obviously this is something they are happy about but short sighted in my opinion. Edited March 20, 2017 by jchapman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CB252 Posted March 20, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Speedway programmes are a relic of a bygone era and sum up the sport perfectly. Promotions should be handing out a score card decorated with club sponsors and a fixture list free of charge. Coventry Blaze Ice Hockey sussed this out years ago. Give out a free score sheet on the night and then produce a high quality monthly magazine that you can charge a fiver for. To ask people to pay 16-18 quid to get in and then pay the best part of another three quid to find out the teams and future fixtures is madness. Which is why speedway promoters persist with it. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Gave up on programs because within a very short space I can't remember the meeting anyway and having a program doesnt jog memory. So I have a burger instead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Having such a ridiculously lop sided match up could really harm the Peterbourough promotion. What were they thinking? Result was never in doubt before a wheel had turned.Oooo I hope you say the same when we come to Wimborne Road and beat you on April 19th! Please, please, people, stop moaning about the queues (not good I accept), the food (I wouldn't buy it either), the downbeat interviews (I don't like PY much either), the long delay before heat 15 (completely unacceptable), and the 3 only in heat 15 (a silly end to a good days racing). The Peterborough promotion hosted us for a meeting we had no right to expect. They were gracious and appreciative of the turn out when we gathered for pictures on the back straight at the end of the meeting. Did you not enjoy seeing riders in a Bees race jacket (thank you NSSC)? Are you not happy that there are folks trying to keep the team alive, get us bsck on track for 2018 and maybe, just maybe racing at Brandon this year (as we heard in interview if you listened carefully)? Suspend your normal assessment of meetings for a while. There are a lot of folks working very hard to give us a few Bees meetings and just a glimmer of hope for the future. Be bloody grateful for what we have, please. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Gave up on programs because within a very short space I can't remember the meeting anyway and having a program doesnt jog memory. So I have a burger instead Maybe all the nitrates in the burgers are affecting your brain's memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Can't remember 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Even if it is down to the showground that would be because it has not been negotiated in the rental terms to be included in the price, therefore it is within the clubs control and they have chosen to get a reduced rent knowing the fans will have to pay. Obviously this is something they are happy about but short sighted in my opinion. And just how would you know if this is negotiable or not seeing as you seem to know all the answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Oooo I hope you say the same when we come to Wimborne Road and beat you on April 19th! Please, please, people, stop moaning about the queues (not good I accept), the food (I wouldn't buy it either), the downbeat interviews (I don't like PY much either), the long delay before heat 15 (completely unacceptable), and the 3 only in heat 15 (a silly end to a good days racing). The Peterborough promotion hosted us for a meeting we had no right to expect. They were gracious and appreciative of the turn out when we gathered for pictures on the back straight at the end of the meeting. Did you not enjoy seeing riders in a Bees race jacket (thank you NSSC)? Are you not happy that there are folks trying to keep the team alive, get us bsck on track for 2018 and maybe, just maybe racing at Brandon this year (as we heard in interview if you listened carefully)? What was said about Brandon? Must've missed that chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 What was said about Brandon? Must've missed that chat. Don't know who was being interviewed but he was saying that the circuit could be brought back to racing fitness in 2 to 3 weeks. The stand may need to be roped off (suggesting more damage). But if there was a willingness we could be racing at Brandon this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Gave up on programs because within a very short space I can't remember the meeting anyway and having a program doesnt jog memory. So I have a burger instead Yes £5 for a burger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Can't remember Perhaps you need a new programme for your brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Don't know who was being interviewed but he was saying that the circuit could be brought back to racing fitness in 2 to 3 weeks. The stand may need to be roped off (suggesting more damage). But if there was a willingness we could be racing at Brandon this year. Cheers. Looking at the place it wouldn't take long to get it fit for racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Gemini - If you're attending more Coventry meetings check: http://www.savecoventryspeedway.com/ Correct line up was listed in the Panthers v Bees preview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Maybe all the nitrates in the burgers are affecting your brain's memory All these years I've been buying burgers because I misheard they contained nice traits which obviously cant be bad for you ..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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