dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 If you want to get a feel of what it was like in London in the 1930s and also enjoy a bit of speedway at Lea Bridge with Gus Kuhn,Tom Farndon and Ron Johnson then have a butchers at this...... great jump over the burning bike! 😲 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Would you class Middlo (jnr) a leg trailer.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Quite uncanny realy looking at this photo of Mark Loram.If it was b&w and a bit grainy,you could think it was taken at the old Frying pan in the 1930s Super image! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Here's today's leg trail action. Bert Spencer, best known for his action with Wimbledon pr-WW2 and at Norwich both pre- and post WW2. He was always recognised as being an Australian but was actually born in south London. Bert Spencer, Australia and Norwich, in a post-war season. Photo: Mike Kemp Collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) One of the most exciting legtrailers of the past decade.Nikolai Krasnikov On the dirt though was there a more exciting rider than Gollob.Great man in action here Edited March 7, 2017 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 One of the most exciting legtrailers of the past decade.Nikolai Krasnikov On the dirt though was there a more exciting rider than Gollob.Great man in action here The Gollob v Nilsen race in the GPS 1999 and the last race at Sheffield in the 1973 England v Sweden test match at Sheffield are my favourite two ever races. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) The Gollob v Nilsen race in the GPS 1999 and the last race at Sheffield in the 1973 England v Sweden test match at Sheffield are my favourite two ever races. Talking of 1973,Sid,what about PC v Michanek?Twice i think they had a ding dong battle And where did Gollob find that speed in that heat?And lots of others too. Edited March 7, 2017 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Talking of 1973,Sid,what about PC v Michanek?Twice i think they had a ding dong battleYes was it in the WTC at Wembley and the ko cup at Hyde Rd? also did PC break his handlebars? Michanek in 73 was on fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yes was it in the WTC at Wembley and the ko cup at Hyde Rd? also did PC break his handlebars? Michanek in 73 was on fire. Tried to find those races on youtube,but had no luck.Found lot of Phil Collins with Genesis though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Yes was it in the WTC at Wembley and the ko cup at Hyde Rd? also did PC break his handlebars? Michanek in 73 was on fire. PC had the clutch lever and throttle on the same handlebar during the race at Hyde Road if I recall. Also that famous run-off at Wembley...did Anders cause PC to fall? Forever debated and the race at Sheffield between England and Sweden when PC passed Mich and Eric Boocock passed Tommy Jansson to secure a match winning 4-2. Super days! Tried to find those races on youtube,but had no luck.Found lot of Phil Collins with Genesis though.... The race at Hyde Road was never filmed unfortunately...or certainly none hasn't come to light. There's an audio recording somewhere I believe? Edited March 7, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 The Gollob v Nilsen race in the GPS 1999 and the last race at Sheffield in the 1973 England v Sweden test match at Sheffield are my favourite two ever races. I wouldn't necessarily say it's my FAVOURITE race (I think the Penhall clashes with Olsen and Knudsen at Wembley are actually better), but the Gollob/Nilsen race is the ONE race that always takes my breath away whenever I watch it - which is very frequently! I have never ever seen a pass even remotely close to that. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I wouldn't necessarily say it's my FAVOURITE race (I think the Penhall clashes with Olsen and Knudsen at Wembley are actually better), but the Gollob/Nilsen race is the ONE race that always takes my breath away whenever I watch it - which is very frequently! I have never ever seen a pass even remotely close to that. Steve Funny Steve ,as i know on this forum i got slammed for saying for me Gollob was a better rider than Pedersen.I still believe that i thought he underachieved still won a title but he was some rider box office for a long period.Pedersen dont get me wrong hats off to him and he has done brilliantly a great career and even this year he will have his say Gollob for me was special. PC had the clutch lever and throttle on the same handlebar during the race at Hyde Road if I recall. Also that famous run-off at Wembley...did Anders cause PC to fall? Forever debated and the race at Sheffield between England and Sweden when PC passed Mich and Eric Boocock passed Tommy Jansson to secure a match winning 4-2. Super days! The race at Hyde Road was never filmed unfortunately...or certainly none hasn't come to light. There's an audio recording somewhere I believe? Anders took PC off not nastily a racing incident the Sheffield race unreal PC taking Mitch and Eric B coming through and picking Tommy Jansson off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) This articles carry recollections of the great Oliver Hart. Thanks to the source of origin for its use on here. http://www.national-speedway-museum.co.uk/oliver%20hart.html http://www.national-speedway-museum.co.uk/my%20leg%20trailing%20memories.html Edited March 8, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Funny Steve ,as i know on this forum i got slammed for saying for me Gollob was a better rider than Pedersen.I still believe that i thought he underachieved still won a title but he was some rider box office for a long period.Pedersen dont get me wrong hats off to him and he has done brilliantly a great career and even this year he will have his say Gollob for me was special. Well, it's just that we've seen Gollob do things on a bike that we've never seen anyone else do! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Well, it's just that we've seen Gollob do things on a bike that we've never seen anyone else do! Steve For me it isn't only close neck and neck racing that makes the sport so good at its best,but moments like an experienced rider(Ronnie Moore) riding to protect his less experienced,slower partner.Magic But it is also like you say a rider doing something no-one or hardly anyone else can manage.For me,the recoveries when it seems all is lost.I can recall a few special moments.One on the ice when in a Russian final,former world champion Dmitri Bulankin looked like he had totally lost control on the rutted bend and was layed flat out,but managed not only to stay on the bike,but to keep it going and somehow get upright again and carry on.I remember Mirko Wolter on a rain soaked Güstrow lose control,but keep going and eventually pass one or two of the riders he had given a head start to.But the most wonderful incident i remember was in a Danish Individual title final heat when Nicki Pedersen lost control on the first bend and was left behind by the other 3.He regained control and over the 4 laps passed one by one all the other,taking i think Hans Andersen on the last lap to take the title But like you say,Gollob was one rider who had so many of those special moments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 For me it isn't only close neck and neck racing that makes the sport so good at its best,but moments like an experienced rider(Ronnie Moore) riding to protect his less experienced,slower partner.Magic But it is also like you say a rider doing something no-one or hardly anyone else can manage.For me,the recoveries when it seems all is lost.I can recall a few special moments.One on the ice when in a Russian final,former world champion Dmitri Bulankin looked like he had totally lost control on the rutted bend and was layed flat out,but managed not only to stay on the bike,but to keep it going and somehow get upright again and carry on.I remember Mirko Wolter on a rain soaked Güstrow lose control,but keep going and eventually pass one or two of the riders he had given a head start to.But the most wonderful incident i remember was in a Danish Individual title final heat when Nicki Pedersen lost control on the first bend and was left behind by the other 3.He regained control and over the 4 laps passed one by one all the other,taking i think Hans Andersen on the last lap to take the title But like you say,Gollob was one rider who had so many of those special moments Gollob when he won the title seemed so relaxed that year.I thought his chance had gone but like Crump he stuck at it and got his rewards.In his ERA he deserves to be named alongside Ricko,Crump,Greg,Nicki people then can decide in what order all down to the individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Gollob when he won the title seemed so relaxed that year.I thought his chance had gone but like Crump he stuck at it and got his rewards.In his ERA he deserves to be named alongside Ricko,Crump,Greg,Nicki people then can decide in what order all down to the individual. Got to hold my hand up Sid and say i had written Gollob off.How wrong was i?Think i even posted on here that i thought he would retire because the fire seemed to have gone from him and he was a shadow of his old self in the GPs.Then he came out and proved me wrong.Would have been a travesty really if he had ended his career without a title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Got to hold my hand up Sid and say i had written Gollob off.How wrong was i?Think i even posted on here that i thought he would retire because the fire seemed to have gone from him and he was a shadow of his old self in the GPs.Then he came out and proved me wrong.Would have been a travesty really if he had ended his career without a titleI first noticed Gollob in 1992 in the U21s where the 1/2/3 were Adams,Loram,Screen he came fifth then i followed his career.He was something different to what i had seen before but when you look back did he underachieve? maybe maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I think one year he was very unlucky with an injury when it looked like he might have taken the title.But he did have some very good riders around at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 When Tomasz first arrived on the scene he had a real aura about him. Everyone wondered who this mysterious Pole who never gave interviews or spoke any english was. His father 'Papa' Gollob used to run the whole show. I too thought he'd 'missed the boat' to be world champion, especially after being so far ahead with just a couple of rounds to go in 99. There's no denying he was a bit wild (to put it mildly) in his early career, but the way he turned it around and won the respect of the fans and his fellow riders was fantastic. As others have said some of the moves he made (particularly at Bydgoszcz) almost defied gravity. He's up there as my favourite Pole (along with Plechy of course!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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