iris123 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) I actually thought when I did the meeting that showed you could win with 9 that it could never happen. The link to the slovenian gp last year practically said anything can happen. I could make a bet that nobody will ever win with just one 0 from a meeting though... Is there a scenario in the rules where you could get 1 pt,but not win the meeting because you aren't officially in the meeting,so the rider on 0pts wins?Think there have been meetings where a riders points aren't counted?Such as tomorrows ice speedway German Final,when i think none of the non German riders can possibly win the title,it would go to the top scoring german,They normally i think state that the "foreign" riders aren't officially in the meeting or some such. Edited March 1, 2017 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 So basically your saying that you could win a meeting with dddd0 or 00000 if everyone else have only letters on their score.what if all 16 riders had a set of 5 letters?Does one type of letter have a lower value in countback? Eg ef beats fex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 0X0NE is actually a word (but I've never recorded this against any rider in a meet to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 what if all 16 riders had a set of 5 letters? Does one type of letter have a lower value in countback? Eg ef beats fex Think it just says that a number is better than any letter. Would and could think that the others are better than N, but dont think the book says so. German final rules dont count in this, thats not the basic 20 heats... ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Is there a scenario in the rules where you could get 1 pt,but not win the meeting because you aren't officially in the meeting,so the rider on 0pts wins?Think there have been meetings where a riders points aren't counted?Such as tomorrows ice speedway German Final,when i think none of the non German riders can possibly win the title,it would go to the top scoring german,They normally i think state that the "foreign" riders aren't officially in the meeting or some such. In equestrian sports, that happens quite a bit and is referred to as "hors concours" - engaged in a competition but not competing for a prize!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 is that anything like Hors d'oeuvres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 is that anything like Hors d'oeuvres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) If Ermolenko had been excluded in that race he could still have won his final heat to be champion. As it was he just pootled round at the back pulling wheelies because the title was already in the bag. ...but if he had been rightly excluded he would have had to have won his last race to become outright champion and chose, instead, to play to the gallery. Would have been interesting if he had needed points but all is conjecture of course and one will never know what the outcome would have been in such a scenario. Andy Smith certainly was non too impressed with Sam's inclusion in the re-start of heat 15 judging by his actions after that particular race! PS However I'll change my initial observation and suggest that he was very lucky to have won rather than shouldn't have...but all water under the bridge now! Edited March 2, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 If after 19 heats, no points have been scored by any riders, heat 20 starts, rider in Red throws chain on start, blue falls on 2nd bend, pushes bike onto centre green, so race continues, white then has engine fail on lap 2 and pushes onto centre green, yellow and black, then with half a lap to go, puts it into the fence and needs ambulance to take him from track, so again, no finishers....! Would yellow and black be declared the meeting winner on account he was the rider that got the furthest in the last race??? Bizzare I know, but technically possible.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) If after 19 heats, no points have been scored by any riders, heat 20 starts, rider in Red throws chain on start, blue falls on 2nd bend, pushes bike onto centre green, so race continues, white then has engine fail on lap 2 and pushes onto centre green, yellow and black, then with half a lap to go, puts it into the fence and needs ambulance to take him from track, so again, no finishers....! Would yellow and black be declared the meeting winner on account he was the rider that got the furthest in the last race??? Bizzare I know, but technically possible.... He would be disqualified for the wrong helmet colour, so no. Edited March 2, 2017 by f-s-p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 You know I haven't got the most exciting of lives but if one of you come into my local please don't start a conversation with me . Thanks very much 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 your local what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston197 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 You know I haven't got the most exciting of lives but if one of you come into my local please don't start a conversation with me . Thanks very much Local library ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 You know I haven't got the most exciting of lives but if one of you come into my local please don't start a conversation with me . Thanks very muchA bit harsh, but I know you didnt mean me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) He would be disqualified for the wrong helmet colour, so no. It's not GP format, its an old style British Final type event.. solid yellow is not allowed in British Speedway.. And bizarrely, new regs re helmets painted in helmet colours this year.... RULE CHANGE RE HELMETS/COLOURS All helmets painted in Red, blue, white, and yellow and black have to have the peak the same colour...!! There are also size limitations for logos on helmets, and now ONLY Helmet manufacturer logos allowed, so no Monster, Red Bull, etc on skid lids this year.... Edited March 2, 2017 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 It's not GP format, its an old style British Final type event.. solid yellow is not allowed in British Speedway.. And bizarrely, new regs re helmets painted in helmet colours this year.... RULE CHANGE RE HELMETS/COLOURS All helmets painted in Red, blue, white, and yellow and black have to have the peak the same colour...!! There are also size limitations for logos on helmets, and now ONLY Helmet manufacturer logos allowed, so no Monster, Red Bull, etc on skid lids this year.... Ah, but what if Red Bull started their own helmet line? That would be okay, wouldn't it? Of course, who would want to admit to having a Monster helmet??? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Ah, but what if Red Bull started their own helmet line? That would be okay, wouldn't it? Of course, who would want to admit to having a Monster helmet??? Steve Quite right, but I can't see Red Bull or Monster opening a helmet factory, or even buying into a helmet.. OR Merge with Bell, will give you - "RED BELL" gives you wheels!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Without dropped points then 9 is correct. Assuming no dropped points and no dead-heats: 1 rider takes 5 rides and scores 8 to win the meeting without a run-off 13 riders take 5 rides and score 7 2 riders turn up late for the meeting, miss their opening 2 outings and score 7 from their remaining 3 rides 1 reserve scores 4 points from 2 reserve rides 1 reserve scores 3 points from 2 reserve rides I make it 8. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Assuming no dropped points and no dead-heats: 1 rider takes 5 rides and scores 8 to win the meeting without a run-off 13 riders take 5 rides and score 7 2 riders turn up late for the meeting, miss their opening 2 outings and score 7 from their remaining 3 rides 1 reserve scores 4 points from 2 reserve rides 1 reserve scores 3 points from 2 reserve rides I make it 8. All the best Rob I'm impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Assuming no dropped points and no dead-heats: 1 rider takes 5 rides and scores 8 to win the meeting without a run-off 13 riders take 5 rides and score 7 2 riders turn up late for the meeting, miss their opening 2 outings and score 7 from their remaining 3 rides 1 reserve scores 4 points from 2 reserve rides 1 reserve scores 3 points from 2 reserve rides I make it 8. All the best Rob Impressed as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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