Sky To Pull Out.

[Grachan]

Firstly, have sky found a way to ditch the 5 year contract without any financial penalties? If so then you have to wonder if the delay in getting a deal with BT is due to what they are willing to offer BSPA for the rights, remember all Premiership clubs (barring Belle View) would have built a team with the security of TV income in their cash flow.

 

Or secondly if Sky have decided to simply ditch speedway to save on production costs, and are not willing to do a deal to release the rights to BT, then the knock on effect to Premiership club's could again be significant as whilst they will still receive their sky money I am sure sponsors will want a reduction in their deals or could possibly pull out all together (I estimate this to be worth just as much to the clubs as the actual sky money).

 

Either way let's hope a way forward is found otherwise lots of riders could find themselves taking a pay cut before a wheel has even turned.

 

PS also makes me wonder if Mick Horton threw the towel in once he had a sniff that these problems were coming, and hence why he didn't turn up at MC meeting to fight his case about Coventry being allowed to remain in the league. And would also makes sense as to why MC did stop Coventry running as it would allow each remaining club a larger chunk of whatever money is coming from either Sky or BT.

 

As pointed out earlier, it would be easy for Sky to get out of their contract if they have a contract to show Elite League Speedway.

 

In their wisdom, the BSPA have dropped the Elite League moniker. So it no longer exists. Perfect get-out if Sky need one.

 

It's been said here that BT are showing league speedway, but I've seen no confirmation of that anywhere.

[ruffdiamond]

As pointed out earlier, it would be easy for Sky to get out of their contract if they have a contract to show Elite League Speedway.

 

In their wisdom, the BSPA have dropped the Elite League moniker. So it no longer exists. Perfect get-out if Sky need one.

 

It's been said here that BT are showing league speedway, but I've seen no confirmation of that anywhere.

did sky not show 'premiership speedway' also ?

if the 're-branding' of the sport has allowed sky to ditch it, there must have been some other deal on the go beforehand,,,

surely the BSPA aren't capable of dropping a bollock like that ?

Edited March 2, 2017 by ruffdiamond

[Grand Central]

did sky not show 'premiership speedway' also ?

surely if the 're-branding' of the sport has allowed sky to ditch it, there must have been some other deal on the go beforehand,,,

The changes this close season are a little bit more than just rebranding.

 

The use of 'lower league' averages to determine team strengths.

Combined with just a (lower league) 10 point difference between the Premiership and Championship team strengts.

Would make it difficult to argue that there was anything 'Elite' available any more.

 

PS

I am not criticising the changes here, they are necessary to keep British Speedway alive.

But the sky moneymen will not be fooled by just the semantics of 'titles' when there has been a real (albeit correct) dilution of the overall rider quality they would be paying for.

Edited March 2, 2017 by Grand Central

[Daniel Smith]

 

As pointed out earlier, it would be easy for Sky to get out of their contract if they have a contract to show Elite League Speedway.

 

In their wisdom, the BSPA have dropped the Elite League moniker. So it no longer exists. Perfect get-out if Sky need one.

 

It's been said here that BT are showing league speedway, but I've seen no confirmation of that anywhere.

 

At the same time, if that's Sky's get-out clause they then can't stop another broadcaster taking over the TV rights

[uk_martin]

Has there been any official statement from Terry Russell / Gospeed?

 

Interesting...

• The BSPA web site still has links to SkySports
• GoSpeed still have links to SkySports

 

So, if these web sites are to be believed, it's business as usual and nothing has happened.

 

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

 

GoSpeed still purport to hold the international media rights to the Polish Extraliga. Maybe some of those more familiar with the Polish TV situation can fill in the gaps, but I'm sure that the PZM revised their international media rights allocation in order to get better worldwide exposure, which GoSpeed was denying them.

 

Wouldn't it be ironic if SkySports were to show Polish league racing at weekends?

[Grachan]

 

At the same time, if that's Sky's get-out clause they then can't stop another broadcaster taking over the TV rights

 

I guess not, if that is indeed the case, as long as someone actually wants them.

[MattK]

 

Interesting...

• The BSPA web site still has links to SkySports
• GoSpeed still have links to SkySports

 

So, if these web sites are to be believed, it's business as usual and nothing has happened.

 

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

 

GoSpeed still purport to hold the international media rights to the Polish Extraliga. Maybe some of those more familiar with the Polish TV situation can fill in the gaps, but I'm sure that the PZM revised their international media rights allocation in order to get better worldwide exposure, which GoSpeed was denying them.

 

Wouldn't it be ironic if SkySports were to show Polish league racing at weekends?

 

The GoSpeed site still refers to Elite and Premier Leagues.

 

I wouldn't hang my hat on how up to date that site is!

[Theboss]

 

At the same time, if that's Sky's get-out clause they then can't stop another broadcaster taking over the TV rights

Quite correct but it does not mean that other broadcasters will want to agree to the same deal. There offer could be more or it could be less, however when you only have one buyer then more often than not the offer will be less!

[Buttons]

You won't - SKY have pulled the plug ! BT rumoured to be interested.

Well lets hope they are.

[philfromcov]

If you go with Plusnet for b-band/tel you can, through an active Sky box, get BT Sport for £10pm on a monthly contract. I did it last year. So all the GP's cost me total of £70 in total.

thats because plusnet IS BT!

[TheReturn]

The ability of forum users to miss the point, often quite deliberately just to make cheap points is beyond belief. I posted what I did to warn people who may not know what is actually involved in buying and using these boxes to help people. As usual it gets twisted. I've deleted all posts since there really is no point in trying to reason with unreasonable people.

 

Anyone who wonders why TV advertisers and sponsors shun speedway only need to take a look at these forums to know they're wise to keep well clear.

Some things never change. RMC taking at pop at other forums users belittling our right to an opinion.

[OveFundinFan]

Correct, (as EE is as well) and one reason I went with Plusnet. But £10 per month is pretty good....but you do need an active account with Sky.

You dont get the same as BT though, they keep the business separate. For example - I am on very slow b/band, 1.2mbps and the same was quoted by all the copper wire suppliers. That is until earlier this year when I visited the Openreach website and saw my post code was now with fibre b/band. I contacted Plusnet but nothing available for offer. Go to BT website and it says I can get fast fibre b/band. One of the Openreach guys working round my area says BT will probably keep it to themselves for the first 6 months. So I got 10 weeks before I can jump ship from Plusnet (contract ends) to BT, by which time maybe Plusnet will be able to offer fibre b/band, but now I dont have an active Sky account, will be interesting.

[BurntFaceMan]

So is this confirmed yet?

[StevePark]

Some things never change. RMC taking at pop at other forums users belittling our right to an opinion.

 

And having a sense of humour!

[Hamish McRaker]

From Speedway GP site

 

" 30/01/2014, 08:38

Sky Sports will show exclusive live coverage of the British Elite League after agreeing a deal to televise at least 25 meetings per season for the next five years.

The deal with the British Speedway Promoters Association means Sky Sports viewers will be able to follow every Elite League season until at least 2019."

 

So if we have no speedway on Sky this year, what sort of deal has been done to release Sky from the contract?

Because the Elite league no longer exists?

[stevebrum]

So is this confirmed yet?

Hasn't been confirmed anywhere.

[thebaron]

I have ended up with both BT Sport and SKY. I am BT for broadband; and phone but the chap reckoned he could do me a deal to bring my phone costs down and throw in a free BT View box and BT Sport for free. All in £60. But the thing to be wary of with BT Sport is that the subscription channels are through the Ethernet cable. I am using Plug Adapters to send the signal from Router to BT View Box. But do need a direct link to your BT View box from the BT Router to avoid the picture pixelating; so where your Router is positioned is crucial. Ok if its directly behind the TV but for some daft reason BT positioned our Router in a bedroom so I need 25ft of Ethernet Cable to get a watchable picture or I need to pay £200 to have the Router moved to the back of the TV set downstairs. So for now I just stick the 25ft of Ethernet cable in to watch BT Sport on the BT View box.

 

I also have BT Sport on the SKY box but if this is right and SKY have ditched League Speedway then I'm ditching SKY and will put up with the 25ft of Ethernet cable for now. I like BT Sport; to be honest it kind of mimics ITV World Of Sport for being prepared to cover motorcycling; US sports etc. Yet still throws in some Premier League football and most of the European Football.

 

On the downside it shows where Speedway is when at a time when the sport is trying to re-launch as a product that the long standing TV partner is pulling out. I read that SKY cannot sell advertising when Speedways on and when you think about that; its probably correct. Think of the adverts you see on TV today; that's right picture them; think of what is being advertised and who they use in the adverts; stay with me and then ask yourself why those same adverts that run between say Ant and Dec's SNTA and The Voice just do not run in the intermission between the Speedway heats.

 

Are we together on this ?

 

Lucky if BT Sports picking up the gauntlet; but with two weeks to go to tapes up on the season we seem to be in a right old mess to me.

[Noodles]

I have ended up with both BT Sport and SKY. I am BT for broadband; and phone but the chap reckoned he could do me a deal to bring my phone costs down and throw in a free BT View box and BT Sport for free. All in £60. But the thing to be wary of with BT Sport is that the subscription channels are through the Ethernet cable. I am using Plug Adapters to send the signal from Router to BT View Box. But do need a direct link to your BT View box from the BT Router to avoid the picture pixelating; so where your Router is positioned is crucial. Ok if its directly behind the TV but for some daft reason BT positioned our Router in a bedroom so I need 25ft of Ethernet Cable to get a watchable picture or I need to pay £200 to have the Router moved to the back of the TV set downstairs. So for now I just stick the 25ft of Ethernet cable in to watch BT Sport on the BT View box.

 

I also have BT Sport on the SKY box but if this is right and SKY have ditched League Speedway then I'm ditching SKY and will put up with the 25ft of Ethernet cable for now. I like BT Sport; to be honest it kind of mimics ITV World Of Sport for being prepared to cover motorcycling; US sports etc. Yet still throws in some Premier League football and most of the European Football.

 

On the downside it shows where Speedway is when at a time when the sport is trying to re-launch as a product that the long standing TV partner is pulling out. I read that SKY cannot sell advertising when Speedways on and when you think about that; its probably correct. Think of the adverts you see on TV today; that's right picture them; think of what is being advertised and who they use in the adverts; stay with me and then ask yourself why those same adverts that run between say Ant and Dec's SNTA and The Voice just do not run in the intermission between the Speedway heats.

 

Are we together on this ?

 

Lucky if BT Sports picking up the gauntlet; but with two weeks to go to tapes up on the season we seem to be in a right old mess to me.

Contact BT via chat and explain the router is in a different room to the You view box and that the ethernet cable is too short. They will send you a set of quality home plug adapters free of charge. I've done the same myself and have no pixelating (this will however depend on the quality of your wiring of course).

[BWitcher]

Just buy one of these and cancel everything

 

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Firestick Or a chrome cast it's simple to reprogram add what ever you want amazon are now bringing out a new fire stick to try stop this but I know people that have had one and had it a good while and never had any probs you can look on you tube and see how to do it it's pretty simple these new boxs are amazing the reprogram it if goes off

 

This is certainly the quickest way to ensuring no speedway is shown on TV.

[The White Knight]

 

 

 

This is certainly the quickest way to ensuring no speedway is shown on TV.

For the good of the Sport - that may be the best outcome.

 

It may make folk go out to watch their Speedway instead of just sitting in an armchair.

 

Just a thought.......