PHILIPRISING Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Surely if Sky pull out of a contract they are liable for the remaining months irrespective of whether or not the BSPA can negotiate an alternative. THINK that's right It will be interesting what will happen to Pearson and Tatum- if BT want Kelvin there shouldn't be any problems with him finishing with SKY. Nigel on the other hand has his SKY darts- so it would be i would think impossible for him to work for both companies- and before anyone says he works for BT on the GP's and SWC NO he doesn't - BT take the Gp world feed. KELVIN and Nigel did the commentary on the Aussie GP from London because BT wanted to stay with them rather than have the world feed commentators (Crump and Tapp). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Some teams literally grab people off the street with free ticket handouts if they are struggling to fill their stadium, as doing so means they avoid a fine for conduct which is deemed to be detrimental to the sports image... .. a think 'grabbing people off the street' and forcing them to endure speedway, would land some clubs facing kidnapping charges, or at least common assault Edited February 28, 2017 by ruffdiamond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 It will be interesting what will happen to Pearson and Tatum- if BT want Kelvin there shouldn't be any problems with him finishing with SKY. Nigel on the other hand has his SKY darts- so it would be i would think impossible for him to work for both companies- and before anyone says he works for BT on the GP's and SWC NO he doesn't - BT take the Gp world feed. Don' t see where the problem is Nigel is not an employee of Sky TV , he's freelance is he not ? He also commentates on talkSport and does newspaper work as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Don' t see where the problem is Nigel is not an employee of Sky TV , he's freelance is he not ? He also commentates on talkSport and does newspaper work as well And the darts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Don' t see where the problem is Nigel is not an employee of Sky TV , he's freelance is he not ? He also commentates on talkSport and does newspaper work as well I think you will find that someone would not be able to commentate and work for Sky and Bt- tv companies tend to not like rivals- the BBC and bt is an exception. If you name someone who works for Sky and bt i would happily accept i am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snackette Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 This is rather difficult for me to post much at the moment but hopefully in the next couple of days everything will become clear. I will update further on my personal thoughts then. The general production on Sky Sports cutbacks have been happening across the board right from Football with the EFL final not being in UHD,Two less cameras on PL Darts,More Sky sports news live inserts done using mobile technology rather than satellite uplink trucks and less Wireless cameras for Cricket. So hopefully many can now see this not related to viewing figures,Speedway has always performed well with viewing share especially considered it's often up against the soaps and sometimes Football on Sky & BT. It always has been on par with sports of similar interests and some with much larger crowds I did post the full average figures in a previous post a couple of weeks ago I think it was about 70 odd thousand over the year as some weeks were very good. This data comes direct from All Sky users that box has a Broadband connection the system is clever and very detailed like was it paused,were the ads watched and even has this person watched before. This is much more detailed rather than the limited BARB panel so Sky data is much more accurate and can also see how much time shifted viewing is done e.g Recorded and watched later and also takes into account on demand/Catch up viewers Where Speedway does have a problem is that during live coverage advertisements just don't sell apart from to BSI for GP ads there are no brands that say want to buy ad space during Speedway coverage and most ads shown are just part of bigger package like Ford have guaranteed 30 mins during course of the day. There have always been problems in selling ads during speedway broadcasts. The demographic has been well documented in the past. The audience has far fewer ABC1s than other sports, and whilst viewing figures are relatively strong, the preponderance of poorer socio-economic viewers means that speedway will always be in the shadow to the likes of golf, cricket, rugby union who will always attract a greater advertising revenue stream thanks to largely to their more well-heeled audience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Sky are quite strict about people that they offer work to do not take work on with BT sport in particular. This applies across the board from Camera crew,Vision engineering staff and even more so with on screen talent. Although I am not 100% sure on the facts I believe that Nigel & Kelvin had to get high up clearance at board level to get the ok to do the GP comms when it moved to BT and at one point BT may have got their own comms team in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Can't believe that people believe that Sky dropping speedway is all about cutbacks . Sky get speedway for a pittance compared to other sports. Sky dropping speedway has more to do with the state of the sport than anything else. BT taking over may be ok but as with the GP and Champions League football, less people will be watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Phoned to cancel sky sports but they offered me such a good deal decided to tie myself in till next January just for the league speedway really although I watch darts and wrestling. Oh well there you go, no league speedway, gps or moto GP for me this year. Anyone know the cost of adding bt to sky? I wonder if BT will have an offer on to entice speedway fans, I think there was last year£27.99 for non bt customers first 3 months free at the moment £15 activation fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Thanks, I won't be bothering at that price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Can't believe that people believe that Sky dropping speedway is all about cutbacks . Sky get speedway for a pittance compared to other sports. Sky dropping speedway has more to do with the state of the sport than anything else. BT taking over may be ok but as with the GP and Champions League football, less people will be watching. Or is more about meeting production costs which always look to be pretty high to me?I would now get rid of SKY but my family like the footy and F1 on SKYgo and I'm sure there are channels that the non footy/non F1 fans watch that aren't on flipping freeview ..... oh well keep paying the £60+ a month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Can't believe that people believe that Sky dropping speedway is all about cutbacks . Sky get speedway for a pittance compared to other sports. Sky dropping speedway has more to do with the state of the sport than anything else. BT taking over may be ok but as with the GP and Champions League football, less people will be watching. You need to read flagrag's post #67. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Can't believe that people believe that Sky dropping speedway is all about cutbacks . Sky get speedway for a pittance compared to other sports. Sky dropping speedway has more to do with the state of the sport than anything else. BT taking over may be ok but as with the GP and Champions League football, less people will be watching. Very true. Sky pay over £10 million to the Premier League for every football game they broadcast live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 SKy overpaid for the Premiership, by a HUGE margin and they are cutting back left right and centre. They look for everything (including non sports channels) to subsidise it. It's shocking. Their football (particularly non EPL coverage) looks like it's done on a shoestring. And David Haye vs Tony Bellew this saturday incredibly is a PPV - extra £17 on top of your subscription. It's become less and less value and the only reason I've kept it on is for the speedway. I've got BT anyway so hopefully they get it. Again I'd stress this doesn't surprise me but in the context of Sky's recent behaviour (fight with discovery over contract etc) it wouldn't surprise me and is all about the mess Sky is in, not speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Why would BT be interested in speedway? It's one thing taking a stream for the SGPs but actually covering the production costs for an event? BT are also tightening their belts with the CL football bidding coming up soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Having dealt with both organizations , BT infinitely worse than Sky. This is over their whole range of services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 This change from Sky to BT is a further contraction of interest in TV companies broadcasting live speedway. The BT deal will be sure to be three year one and at the end of that, the tiny viewing figures will very likely bring an end to league matches on TV. Except for the GPs which can presumably be sold on to other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Will not last that long Yes it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I changed to BT TV late last year after getting an absolutely ridiculous bargain on a black Friday deal. I have had absolutely no problems with BT whatsoever and customer service has been good in my experience. So that's British League, SWC & SGP on BT sport HD and SEC, Best Pairs and Swedish League on Eurosport HD for me this year. I'm well happy with this news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I cannot believe that anyone takes out a subscription for Sky or BT or whoever purely to watch speedway - which is what seems to come across when tv is mentioned on this forum There is so much more to view that, whilst the monthly fee may on the face of it look hefty, the variety of sports and entertainment available for that sum makes it well worthwhile, particularly when one considers some of the ticket prices for sporting events Perhaps if league speedway disappeared from the screens, people might get out to their local track more often and pay at the turnstile to see this great sport 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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