tyretrax Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 TWK, get your backside trackside and stop preaching to the converted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 You make a very fair point. The problem is that you have to cover your expenses. Any Promoter must first of all cover his costs. With so few people attending Speedway these days I don't understand how they can reduce prices. Stadium Rental (in some cases)., Rider Payments, Staff Payments, First Aid, Ambulances etc.. All of these things and more have to be paid before the Promoter makes a penny. It is also rumoured that many Tracks are actually losing money. If that is true - then how can you ask Promoters to reduce Prices and, very probably, lose even more money. Much as I would like it - I do not think that is a feasible way to solve the problem of getting more folk through the Gate. I don't even pretend to have the answers, but to me, reducing Prices in the current Financial climate would be committing Financial suicide. It obvious that the Promoters have to stop paying riders more money than they have got coming in.If the riders don't accept that they will soon have no income from the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 For the sport to survive costs have to be cut for the sport to survive. Nobody is going to pay £18 to watch a speedway meeting. Leases and rentals have to be re-negotiated and riders paid less. The easy option was to recruit an EU rider and bang him a wedge...those days are over. What about nurturing home grown talent. Don't forget work permits will be necessary, proir to the EU the government were very picky unless you were a commonwealth rider. Riders also will be reluctant to come due to the devaluation of the £ by 15%....blimey things get worse lol. I'll try to think positive !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Can't blame the few people on here who have a downer on current speedway. It is not their fault. They (the remoaners) are really the last dregs of that huge sway, the thousands that have already vanished and have no more contact with the sport. Least the whingers who no longer attend, and I am one of them, still post on this type of forum, haven't walked away entirely. After all, it is about opinions It would be a total waste of time if everyone had only positive views... confused why tracks are struggling so much, when they can't find anyone on this forum with anything bad to say. All those years that went pre-internet. If only those who completely disappeared had such a stage to vent their feelings, those in charge may have listened before the barrel ran dry. Edited March 2, 2017 by moxey63 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Can't blame the few people on here who have a downer on current speedway. It is not their fault. All those years that went pre-internet. If only those who completely disappeared had such a stage to vent their feelings, those in charge may have listened before the barrel ran dry. they could've sent a letter in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 they could've sent a letter in And I bet Speedway Star could have done a weekly supplement with all the letters . Even in the boom times, fans weren't entirely happy with the sport. In fact, followers of speedway love nothing more than putting the sport right and thinking up better ideas. They love the sport but are never entirely happy with what they fell for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 It's not about anger or apportioning blame the sport is in a very difficult place and survival will be the fundamental element. I travel up and down the country and the economic situation while stable is hitting young people the hardest and those are the ones who we need for the sport to survive. Critical analytical thinking is required and we all need to 'sing from the same song sheet' as it were lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 And I bet Speedway Star could have done a weekly supplement with all the letters . . and a prize for the best letter/moan Even in the boom times, fans weren't entirely happy with the sport. In fact, followers of speedway love nothing more than putting the sport right and thinking up better ideas. That would probly cover most aspects of life,,, They love the sport but are never entirely happy with what they fell for. well you can't really apportion any of the blame for that on promoters/managers/owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 As most seasons gone by the teams who have built competitive teams and supply good racing will get good crowds. The danger befalls those who have had a decent few years but then have a real shocker of a season for one reason or another. However as mentioned by many previous posters the constant fiddling by the powers that be are doing nothing positive for the sport along with the spiraling costs mean i will be choosing when and where i watch my speedway a lot more carefully this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 It's not about anger or apportioning blame the sport is in a very difficult place and survival will be the fundamental element. I travel up and down the country and the economic situation while stable is hitting young people the hardest and those are the ones who we need for the sport to survive. Critical analytical thinking is required and we all need to 'sing from the same song sheet' as it were lol. It seems every young person I speak to has the latest smart phone. People of most generations have money they just choose not to spend it on watching speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Brilliant reply !! It's generation thing and they fork out £40 per month too. We own our own house have a business, investments etc and I don't have a smart phone nor do I pay for sky, premier football or £10 for a pizza. That's why we are in this position. Speedway is a finite specialist market and we have to sell it and make it an attractive proposion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 March 6th tomorrow Spring is springing up all over the place ( lovely flowers in the park ) have you seen the BSPA posters ( in every chip shop and taKe away ), had a leaflet through the door with your local track's fixture list etc etc?. Or is it all coming on April the 1st? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 March 6th tomorrow Spring is springing up all over the place ( lovely flowers in the park ) have you seen the BSPA posters ( in every chip shop and taKe away ), had a leaflet through the door with your local track's fixture list etc etc?. Or is it all coming on April the 1st? HaHa!! You had me going there for just a second. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 With a new promotion in place , a new look team and the fact it's the 50 year celebration at Berwick I'd expect the crowds to be up initially, if they stay that way all season will depend on how the team performs I'd guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) March 6th tomorrow Spring is springing up all over the place ( lovely flowers in the park ) have you seen the BSPA posters ( in every chip shop and taKe away ), had a leaflet through the door with your local track's fixture list etc etc?. Or is it all coming on April the 1st?it would seem that even with free materials (perks of the job stuff),,, free labour to disperse the stuff, such idea's would fall on deaf ears.this sort of thing has all been done before, and if there is a response it would be very hard to guage, as we all know how hard it is to spot a new face in such packed venue's,,, nevermind the cost of such a campaign (zero) like, apart from a few phone calls and petrol money Edited March 5, 2017 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 All the 'razz am a tazz' of slick PR companies, wall to wall 'pay to view TV' formulated in the 90's together with Mr you know who from Denmark and his GP series. Where's it got us? I knew this would happen as speedway is a sport that appeals to a limited audience. I'm sure speedway will survive and it's no point blaming the present administration the damage was done years ago. Do all you can to help and support your local track but please please please make the sport affordable. Rather than pay for expensive foreign riders, buy some machinery and run a training school. In it's present form speedway is living beyond it's means and is a recipe for further decline. What about racing on a Friday or Saturday I'm sure we could tear ourselves away from 'Ant and Dec's Takaway' oh I forgot our foreign riders have continental commitments. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Big crowds so far for the early meetings at The Abbey, hoping for a decent summer to keep em coming. Edited April 17, 2017 by beefy keefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I have seen good gates just about everywhere I have been. Rye House was probably double the best I have ever seen before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) I have seen good gates just about everywhere I have been. Rye House was probably double the best I have ever seen before.The weather has such an effect on attendances, the casual fan will always come out on warm bank holidays. It wasn't good weather at Blunsdon last night but car park was full, always is when Poole are in town.Speedway needs more IOW style promoters. Edited April 17, 2017 by beefy keefy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 The loss of Coventry is a massive blow to British Speedway. Coventry fans are some of, if not the best away followers in the league. They now have to be replaced. As the club with the biggest fan base the average attendance in 2017 is going to be down. I can see Rye House being the biggest winners from Coventrys demise as a few Bees fans will go to Rye on a Saturday to see probably the two most popular Bees of the last 10-15 years and Robbo is well liked too. Crowds at the First three meeting at Rye have been exceptional, just like the late seventies where we were dominant. Good Friday meeting at Lakeside where the crowd was much larger that many Elite league matches last year and a very healthy crowd Easter Monday for the visit of Lakeside to Kent. Also another good looking crowd for the rain off KL v RH. Rye seem to be boosted by Lakeside dropping down, many Hammers supporters dotted around the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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