Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 It has been an uneasy close season when one reflects especially on the happenings in regard to Belle Vue and Coventry. Away from those venues as a discussion topic in this thread: much is being said elsewhere on the BSF in regard to them. But with the start of the season just a few weeks away, what are opinions in regard to crowds for the 2017 season? (1) Will they stabilise at present levels? (2) Will the decline that is becoming evident season-on-season continue? (3) Are there signs that speedway has levelled in regard to decreasing attendances and there is now reason for optimism to expect bigger crowds in 2017? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 It has been an uneasy close season when one reflects especially on the happenings in regard to Belle Vue and Coventry. Away from those venues as a discussion topic in this thread: much is being said elsewhere on the BSF in regard to them. But with the start of the season just a few weeks away, what are opinions in regard to crowds for the 2017 season? (1) Will they stabilise at present levels? (2) Will the decline that is becoming evident season-on-season continue? (3) Are there signs that speedway has levelled in regard to decreasing attendances and there is now reason for optimism to expect bigger crowds in 2017? I recall a conversation that I had a couple of years ago at my place of work discussing speedway attendances with a 'Brummies' fan. He tried to assure me that crowds were holding up well...which appears to go against the general consensus. I remember questioning his observation but he was convinced that it was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 It has been an uneasy close season when one reflects especially on the happenings in regard to Belle Vue and Coventry. Away from those venues as a discussion topic in this thread: much is being said elsewhere on the BSF in regard to them. But with the start of the season just a few weeks away, what are opinions in regard to crowds for the 2017 season? (1) Will they stabilise at present levels? (2) Will the decline that is becoming evident season-on-season continue? (3) Are there signs that speedway has levelled in regard to decreasing attendances and there is now reason for optimism to expect bigger crowds in 2017? I think it could go one way or the other....or perhaps stay the same as last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) It has been an uneasy close season when one reflects especially on the happenings in regard to Belle Vue and Coventry. Away from those venues as a discussion topic in this thread: much is being said elsewhere on the BSF in regard to them. But with the start of the season just a few weeks away, what are opinions in regard to crowds for the 2017 season? (1) Will they stabilise at present levels? (2) Will the decline that is becoming evident season-on-season continue? (3) Are there signs that speedway has levelled in regard to decreasing attendances and there is now reason for optimism to expect bigger crowds in 2017? I think it could go one way or the other....or perhaps stay the same as last year. All I can say Ray Stadia is that you have covered all your options very well - in sporting match terms going for a win, defeat or draw! Edited February 26, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I feel that it is much more likely that the decline in attendances at speedway matches will continue year on year. Including 2017. Too much time and effort has been spent tinkering with this rule or that rule over the last ten years at least. Only serious, professional marketing efforts will attract new fans and although we are yet to see what the BSPA is doing in that direction this year the rebranding is of no interest to would be fans. They need to see close racing with passing ( therefore thrills and excitement that might draw them back ). There is no point in preparing a track to suit the home riders if that results in a crashing defeat for the visitor and very little entertainment. I purposely chose my forum name because I think we have a very long way to go if we are to celebrate 2028 ( or 2023 whichever you choose! ) as a centenary. I feel that this is not the much trolled "doom and gloom' but a very realistic outlook for the sport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I am certain Crowds will fall - they are almost bound to - we now have one less operating Track (Coventry). With luck Crowds may increase over the new Season - I certainly hope so but I somehow don't think so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 For me there are two important things here (1)Without official crowd figures from the sport it is very difficult to know just what has been happening in the last few years in terms of falling or levelling out or a slight rise etc.And so it will be hard to judge how this season compares.Mostly hearsay from people who aren't great at estimating crowd figures (2)Funny how the thread has attracted the "usual suspects" who don't go to meetings.If you get out of your armchair maybe you will be part of a revival? Nuff Said 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) For me there are two important things here (1)Without official crowd figures from the sport it is very difficult to know just what has been happening in the last few years in terms of falling or levelling out or a slight rise etc.And so it will be hard to judge how this season compares.Mostly hearsay from people who aren't great at estimating crowd figures (2)Funny how the thread has attracted the "usual suspects" who don't go to meetings.If you get out of your armchair maybe you will be part of a revival? Nuff Said The track nearest to my home closed after its Easter 1940 meetings. The other nearest is at least 30 miles away and involves several changes en route as I need public transport. And night travel returning home means going through some not particularly nice parts of 'scarf' London. And also sadly I do not have a magic flying armchair! Edited February 26, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 The track nearest to my home closed after its Easter 1940 meetings. The other nearest is at least 30 miles away and involves several changes en route as I need public transport. And night travel returning home means going through some not particularly nice parts of 'scarf' London. And also sadly I do not have a magic flying armchair! Some people have friends who will pick them up,take them to a meeting and drop them off back home again.Now why am i not surprised you don't fall into that category Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Some people have friends who will pick them up,take them to a meeting and drop them off back home again.Now why am i not surprised you don't fall into that category Again, this forum is sadly lacking a thumbs down button. You would have just got one from me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Some people have friends who will pick them up,take them to a meeting and drop them off back home again.Now why am i not surprised you don't fall into that category You are dragging down the tone of debate here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 For me there are two important things here (1)Without official crowd figures from the sport it is very difficult to know just what has been happening in the last few years in terms of falling or levelling out or a slight rise etc.And so it will be hard to judge how this season compares.Mostly hearsay from people who aren't great at estimating crowd figures (2)Funny how the thread has attracted the "usual suspects" who don't go to meetings.If you get out of your armchair maybe you will be part of a revival? Nuff Said The track nearest to my home closed after its Easter 1940 meetings. The other nearest is at least 30 miles away and involves several changes en route as I need public transport. And night travel returning home means going through some not particularly nice parts of 'scarf' London. And also sadly I do not have a magic flying armchair! Some people have friends who will pick them up,take them to a meeting and drop them off back home again.Now why am i not surprised you don't fall into that category Actually I do have an offer to be taken to a speedway meeting in the forthcoming season. I will probably decline it for reasons I gave in a comment in the YEARS GONE BY debate. That was in a thread about where one might like a track to be based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Again, this forum is sadly lacking a thumbs down button. You would have just got one from me. I would have given you quite a few on the general discussions topics,so no problem with that idea But i go back to my earlier post.If there are no official stats how does gustix know where the crowds over the past few years are heading and how will he be able to compare them with this season? You are dragging down the tone of debate here. Without wanting to get too personal,most topics you post on are dragged down by your depressing attitude.You have such a big downer on present day speedway.No positives with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I would have given you quite a few on the general discussions topics,so no problem with that idea But i go back to my earlier post.If there are no official stats how does gustix know where the crowds over the past few years are heading and how will he be able to compare them with this season? Without wanting to get too personal,most topics you post on are dragged down by your depressing attitude.You have such a big downer on present day speedway.No positives with you So are you saying that all of my thoughts and opinions are wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Actually I do have an offer to be taken to a speedway meeting in the forthcoming season. I will probably decline it for reasons I gave in a comment in the YEARS GONE BY debate. That was in a thread about where one might like a track to be based. Here's the LINK to the thread I was referring to. It's about a track in Penge,"sarf' London!!! Where Would You Want To See A Speedway Track Edited February 26, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 So are you saying that all of my thoughts and opinions are wrong? Did you read the word "most".If not then read again and you will get your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Did you read the word "most".If not then read again and you will get your answer Fair enough. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Some people have friends who will pick them up,take them to a meeting and drop them off back home again.Now why am i not surprised you don't fall into that category I would give WKD a lift to Brough, if he first got the bus to the end of my street (I would be hoping he had missed it tho) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I would give WKD a lift to Brough, if he first got the bus to the end of my street (I would be hoping he had missed it tho) Cheeky sod. :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 It has been an uneasy close season when one reflects especially on the happenings in regard to Belle Vue and Coventry. Away from those venues as a discussion topic in this thread: much is being said elsewhere on the BSF in regard to them. But with the start of the season just a few weeks away, what are opinions in regard to crowds for the 2017 season? (1) Will they stabilise at present levels? (2) Will the decline that is becoming evident season-on-season continue? (3) Are there signs that speedway has levelled in regard to decreasing attendances and there is now reason for optimism to expect bigger crowds in 2017? For me there are two important things here (1)Without official crowd figures from the sport it is very difficult to know just what has been happening in the last few years in terms of falling or levelling out or a slight rise etc.And so it will be hard to judge how this season compares.Mostly hearsay from people who aren't great at estimating crowd figures (2)Funny how the thread has attracted the "usual suspects" who don't go to meetings.If you get out of your armchair maybe you will be part of a revival? Nuff Said I would have given you quite a few on the general discussions topics,so no problem with that idea But i go back to my earlier post.If there are no official stats how does gustix know where the crowds over the past few years are heading and how will he be able to compare them with this season? Without wanting to get too personal,most topics you post on are dragged down by your depressing attitude.You have such a big downer on present day speedway.No positives with you My OP merely posed a question as to what other BSF members with a more tolerant attitude think will happen in regard to 2017 speedway attendances. I did not say that I wanted comparison figures. I know full well that tracks do not and never issued official attendances. But it's not hard to make a judgment on what is happening at you local track. Wimbledon was one of mine - and I know that when I went in 1949 the attendances were far larger than those of the more recent 2002-05 Conference League era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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