Chris116 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Nothing. So long as the first part of the agreement was first fully complied with. I.e refurbishment of the stadium and suitable long term future use irrevocably established as specified. Do we or the council trust the present owners to do what they would have to promise based on previous events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Troll Is that because it's not to your liking & kiss assing to the return of Speedway? We have to realists sometimes and attaching hope to Greyhound Racing is a massive mistake. I thought you were the supposed King's Lynn "fan" who always attacks his own team - which does make you a troll. Always out for a reaction. Apologies if I've mixed you up with someone else, although I don't think so. Well, congratulations, because you did get a reaction from me, although you'll be going on ignore from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, 1 valve said: Because planning permission etc would only be granted subject to an agreeable & binding long term future of stadium & associated activities being finalised & implemented? That's pretty much it. Plus with a planning inspectorate decision behind them, the council will use a CPO if necessary to get the stadium into the hands of someone who would follow the Local Plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 16 hours ago, 1 valve said: Nothing. So long as the first part of the agreement was first fully complied with. I.e refurbishment of the stadium and suitable long term future use irrevocably established as specified. It depends what the clauses are. All along the council have been adamant that no houses can be built on the land. Now they have opened the door the houses on the car park I see no reason why the current owners would sell. At very least they'll want to see what stipulations are required for the stadium to be considered "operable" in order for planning permission to be granted. It also massive complicates a CPO as the council have massively increased the value of the car park simply by weakening their opposition towards housing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MattK said: It depends what the clauses are. All along the council have been adamant that no houses can be built on the land. Now they have opened the door the houses on the car park I see no reason why the current owners would sell. At very least they'll want to see what stipulations are required for the stadium to be considered "operable" in order for planning permission to be granted. It also massive complicates a CPO as the council have massively increased the value of the car park simply by weakening their opposition towards housing. All discussed at the three-hour-plus Local Plan hearing. The value of the site is its current value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: All discussed at the three-hour-plus Local Plan hearing. The value of the site is its current value. Hoping for the best. For too long now developers have been " railroading through" their plans using very dubious tactics & it would make a very pleasant change to see them fail in this particular case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: Hoping for the best. For too long now developers have been " railroading through" their plans using very dubious tactics & it would make a very pleasant change to see them fail in this particular case. Yes. Where I used to live in London they got permission to build a giant supermarket and one of the conditions at first was a swimming baths for community use. They built the supermarket ok, but it took about 20 years before any baths were built and that was only part of some Virgin fitness club !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: Hoping for the best. For too long now developers have been " railroading through" their plans using very dubious tactics & it would make a very pleasant change to see them fail in this particular case. Recall the old Grove Allen site in Cowley when it was re-developed into a retail outlet and it was stipulated that there would be no Sunday opening (before Sunday Trading laws came to the fore) to give local residents a respite. B&Q immediately opened on a Sunday and were fined a mediocre sum and continued to do so despite re-assurances put in place by the local council to the contrary. Edited December 21, 2019 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, iris123 said: Yes. Where I used to live in London they got permission to build a giant supermarket and one of the conditions at first was a swimming baths for community use. They built the supermarket ok, but it took about 20 years before any baths were built and that was only part of some Virgin fitness club !!! This is what always seems tro happen. They get their plans through by agreeing certain conditions , get their building done, and forget the bit that doesn't make them any cash. Swindon Speedway Stadium seems to be a perfect example of this situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: This is what always seems tro happen. They get their plans through by agreeing certain conditions , get their building done, and forget the bit that doesn't make them any cash. Swindon Speedway Stadium seems to be a perfect example of this situation. On that subject the flats that are being built on the site of Wimbledon stadium are looking as though they will soon be finished but the area where the football stadium is going to be built is empty! I fully expect that AFC Wimbledon are going to find they don't get the stadium they have been looking forward to for the past decade. The developers have been sponsoring the football club and my bet is the sponsorship will end just before the building starts meaning AFC Wimbledon will not be able to afford it. At that point the developers will be rushing back to get a change in the planning permission so they can drop the stadium and build more flats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chris116 said: On that subject the flats that are being built on the site of Wimbledon stadium are looking as though they will soon be finished but the area where the football stadium is going to be built is empty! I fully expect that AFC Wimbledon are going to find they don't get the stadium they have been looking forward to for the past decade. The developers have been sponsoring the football club and my bet is the sponsorship will end just before the building starts meaning AFC Wimbledon will not be able to afford it. At that point the developers will be rushing back to get a change in the planning permission so they can drop the stadium and build more flats. I wouldn't be surprised by that either. The problem is that the developers have been getting away with stuff like that for so long they appear to take it for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18184703.greyhound-racing-not-cruel-says-oxford-stadium-businessman/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Save Oxford Stadium has a new Instagram page This page will show pictures from all events that took place at the Stadium. It’s on Instagram as save_oxford_stadium. Install the app to follow photos and videos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 12/21/2019 at 12:58 PM, Chris116 said: On that subject the flats that are being built on the site of Wimbledon stadium are looking as though they will soon be finished but the area where the football stadium is going to be built is empty! I fully expect that AFC Wimbledon are going to find they don't get the stadium they have been looking forward to for the past decade. The developers have been sponsoring the football club and my bet is the sponsorship will end just before the building starts meaning AFC Wimbledon will not be able to afford it. At that point the developers will be rushing back to get a change in the planning permission so they can drop the stadium and build more flats. This was the situation in November https://therealefl.co.uk/2019/11/26/afc-wimbledons-future-in-doubt-as-new-stadium-hits-funding-crisis/ Seems they decided on fans bond to raise finance https://www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news/2020/january/stadium-update/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 On 12/21/2019 at 11:53 AM, steve roberts said: Recall the old Grove Allen site in Cowley when it was re-developed into a retail outlet and it was stipulated that there would be no Sunday opening (before Sunday Trading laws came to the fore) to give local residents a respite. B&Q immediately opened on a Sunday and were fined a mediocre sum and continued to do so despite re-assurances put in place by the local council to the contrary. Have you seen this? https://www.curtis-sport.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2543 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Midland Red said: Have you seen this? https://www.curtis-sport.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2543 Yes thanks...I ordered it a few days ago and awaiting delivery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigACE Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 The programmes are a great idea. The current Clubs ones really are. But the defunct ones are even better. Oxford is a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, craigACE said: The programmes are a great idea. The current Clubs ones really are. But the defunct ones are even better. Oxford is a must. Mine arrived this morning and interesting, if a little devoid in content, but full marks to all those involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Imagine turning up for a league meeting and finding that the opposition were tracking Ivan Mauger at reserve, and he would be off a 10 yard start! Hard to believe, but it happened to Bees once - 18 Jul 1963, at Oxford. Result was a comfortable 44-34 win for Oxford, with Mauger top scoring with a 12 point maximum, and no.1 Ronnie Genz returning an 11 point tally. Top Bee was Ken McKinlay with 12 from five rides, beaten twice by Mauger. Mauger was beaten in the 2nd half by Nigel Boocock, who went on to win the Rider of the Night final. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Midland Red said: Imagine turning up for a league meeting and finding that the opposition were tracking Ivan Mauger at reserve, and he would be off a 10 yard start! Hard to believe, but it happened to Bees once - 18 Jul 1963, at Oxford. Result was a comfortable 44-34 win for Oxford, with Mauger top scoring with a 12 point maximum, and no.1 Ronnie Genz returning an 11 point tally. Top Bee was Ken McKinlay with 12 from five rides, beaten twice by Mauger. Mauger was beaten in the 2nd half by Nigel Boocock, who went on to win the Rider of the Night final. So The Bees got stung !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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