Midland Red Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18105078.greyhound-racing-plans-oxford-stadium-slammed-peta/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Well the Peta spokeswoman did her research. "The stadium should open but only for the car racing"...... Someone has googled speedway and got a picture of Nascar come up I reckon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 I wonder how the Peta spokesperson thinks the cars are going to have any pit space? I have only ever known one trainer in greyhound racing and after all I had heard about the way the dogs were treated it was very good to find that they were treated as well as any pet dog is. I can well believe that some trainers do do things the wrong way but Peta should not tar all trainers with the same brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1,000 Greyhounds died or were killed in 2018!!!! Does that tell the whole story ? Certainly give ammo to peta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, iris123 said: 1,000 Greyhounds died or were killed in 2018!!!! Does that tell the whole story ? Certainly give ammo to peta I agree that figure is dreadful and would never support bad treatment of any animal but I would like to hear both sides of the arguement. It is possible that the person I met was one of only a few who did it the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, iris123 said: 1,000 Greyhounds died or were killed in 2018!!!! Does that tell the whole story ? Certainly give ammo to peta In Finland dogs dont die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, f-s-p said: In Finland dogs dont die. Finland has immortal dogs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Noodles said: Finland has immortal dogs? Yes. Even the dogs that are used for hunting and police dogs that are attacked by wolwes, bears and criminals only get hurt but dont die. Only british greyhound dogs die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, f-s-p said: Yes. Even the dogs that are used for hunting and police dogs that are attacked by wolwes, bears and criminals only get hurt but dont die. Only british greyhound dogs die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 hours ago, teaboy279 said: Well the Peta spokeswoman did her research. "The stadium should open but only for the car racing"...... Someone has googled speedway and got a picture of Nascar come up I reckon.... Is that taking a snippet for a swipe at her? She does say "........ and other sports". So no miss conception on her part. 12 hours ago, Chris116 said: I wonder how the Peta spokesperson thinks the cars are going to have any pit space? I have only ever known one trainer in greyhound racing and after all I had heard about the way the dogs were treated it was very good to find that they were treated as well as any pet dog is. I can well believe that some trainers do do things the wrong way but Peta should not tar all trainers with the same brush. As a Speedway fan, Oxford would be a great addition to the sport but as much as there is hope it won't happen when all is reliant on greyhounds. It just won't get the backing, even if it did reopen, it'll be shut down again within a year. The PETA spokesperson is absolutely correct, for the stadium to reopen, be sustainable and survive longevity it has to be for only, as she put it, "willing, human participants". I feel for Rob Pleasley as he tried to defend the greyhounds but I think he's a little blinkered. The Oxford Mail have ripped him a new hole with the greyhound statistics:- "Official figures released earlier this year by the Greyhound Board of Great Britain revealed that almost 1,000 racing greyhounds died or were killed in 2018. Hundreds of dogs were euthanised in 2018 for reasons including the high cost of medical treatment and the absence of a ‘viable option away from the racecourse’. There has also been a steady decline in the number of greyhound tracks, with Wimbledon and the flagship course, Towcester, among those that closed as attendance reached historic lows". Rob, if I was you, I'd speak with Budimir and try and get plans done for the inclusion of Stocks, Hot Rods & Bangers on an all shale surface and rip out the dogs. You're unfortunately on a losing campaign if the continuation is Greyhounds is the only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 59 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Rob, if I was you, I'd speak with Budimir and try and get plans done for the inclusion of Stocks, Hot Rods & Bangers on an all shale surface and rip out the dogs. You're unfortunately on a losing campaign if the continuation is Greyhounds is the only option. Isn't Nick Budimir primarily involved in greyhound racing? It would seem a strange approach to buy a stadium and then drop the one thing he has a background in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 hours ago, f-s-p said: In Finland dogs dont die. Don’t they even freeze to death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 I like speedway and stox about equally. I would love both the bikes and cars to return to Oxford but it is simply not possible as there is no space for a pit area for the cars. When the cars last ran many of them were parked on the wrong side of the road and the police allowed them to be driven across the road which is of course totally illegal. I don't think that would be possible nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Midland Red said: Don’t they even freeze to death? Only British greyhounds die. 1000 of then last year. Cat’s might though even here. And actually my neighbour put two to sleep earlier this year. But thats not news, thats life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 15 hours ago, f-s-p said: In Finland dogs dont die. I thought they eat dog in Finland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: I thought they eat dog in Finland? Yes but only live one’s. Finnish dogs dont die. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris116 said: I like speedway and stox about equally. I would love both the bikes and cars to return to Oxford but it is simply not possible as there is no space for a pit area for the cars. When the cars last ran many of them were parked on the wrong side of the road and the police allowed them to be driven across the road which is of course totally illegal. I don't think that would be possible nowadays. 2 hours ago, MattK said: Isn't Nick Budimir primarily involved in greyhound racing? It would seem a strange approach to buy a stadium and then drop the one thing he has a background in. Then I'd say the idea os a dead rubber then, greyhounds is a more extinct sport than Speedway. Great shame the project is doomed for failure before it's even got going. Maybe Budimir is planning exactly that so the grounds become impossible to prove that sport has any chance of survival and apply for planning on the whole ground for many more £m's than the redevelopment of the stadium. A free hit for Budimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Then I'd say the idea os a dead rubber then, greyhounds is a more extinct sport than Speedway. Great shame the project is doomed for failure before it's even got going. Maybe Budimir is planning exactly that so the grounds become impossible to prove that sport has any chance of survival and apply for planning on the whole ground for many more £m's than the redevelopment of the stadium. A free hit for Budimir It does seem strange that anyone would invest £20m into a decrepit stadium which plays host to two sports in terminal decline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 16 hours ago, iris123 said: 1,000 Greyhounds died or were killed in 2018!!!! Does that tell the whole story ? Certainly give ammo to peta I would like a few rounds of ammo to give to peta tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 17 hours ago, iris123 said: 1,000 Greyhounds died or were killed in 2018!!!! Does that tell the whole story ? Certainly give ammo to peta That figure sounds like the tip of the iceberg Up to 6,000 greyhounds are being killed each year because they are not fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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