Were There Two Riders Named Barry Lee?

[Guest]

Were there two riders named Barry Lee in the 1960s. One unfortunately involved in a mid-1960s accident at West Ham. He subsequently retired from speedway going onto establish himself as a leading car race driver.

 

The 'second' Barry Lee - if there was one? - was possibly linked with Canterbury for several seasons at the end of the 1960s.

Edited February 22, 2017 by Guest

[Andy Downes]

Same bloke - According to Wiki, he was a jockey too!

[Guest]

Were there two riders named Barry Lee in the 1960s. One unfortunately involved in a mid-1960s accident at West Ham. He subsequently retired from speedway going onto establish himself as a leading car race driver.

 

The 'second' Barry Lee - if there was one? - was possibly linked with Canterbury for several seasons at the end of the 1960s.

 

 

Same bloke - According to Wiki, he was a jockey too!

 

Thanks for your input Andy Downes. Since your Post I have received an email message which again causes me some confusion. This reads: "There were two Barry Lee speedway riders. There was the rider who rode mainly at Hackney and West Ham, sadly involved in the tragic accident with David Wills. He went on to achieve car racing fame. The 'second' Barry Lee was later in the 1960s and he rode for several tracks including Canterbury, Rayleigh and Berwick."I

Same bloke - According to Wiki, he was a jockey too!

 

​This is what Wikipedia has to say about Barry Lee. Thank you for the Wiki reference Andy Downes. This can be found at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Lee

Edited February 24, 2017 by Guest

[BOBBATH]

Was Barry Lee the rider involved in the Dave Wills accident or was it the Teo accident??

[chunky]

I can't personally vouch for anything, but I have been led to believe that it was the West Ham Barry Lee who went on to find fame on four wheels, and not the later Barry Lee at Canterbury and Rayleigh.

 

Steve

Edited February 23, 2017 by chunky

[Guest]

I can't personally vouch for anything, but I have been led to believe that it was the West Ham Barry Lee who went on to find fame on four wheels, and not the later Barry Lee at Canterbury and Rayleigh.

 

Steve

 

That is correct chunky.

 

However, despite other comments to indicate there MAY have been two riders named Barry Lee, I now tend to agree with Andy Downes. I have visited the A-Z of Speedway and this details only one rider of that name under the letter L.

http://www.speedwayatoz.co.uk/page14.html

 

 

Was Barry Lee the rider involved in the Dave Wills accident or was it the Teo accident??

 

Sadly that is correct BOBATH. This appeared on SpeedwayPlus in regard to both tragic accidents:

http://www.speedwayplus.com/david_john_wills.shtml

It seemed that Dave was moved out by the overslide and Barry's wheel collided with Dave's head. It looked bad and we feared the worst. We also felt sorry for Barry, because he was in no way at fault.

Edited February 23, 2017 by Guest

[Guest]

It would appear that there was an extensive debate on Barry Lee's involvement with speedway as far back as 2006. And, by the look of things, that was inconclusive as well.

Wimbledon's Other World Champ

::: I notice in the previous LINK that a mention is made of a B Leigh at Wimbledon in the late 1960s where it is speculated if that might be Barry Lee.

My view is that might well not be the case and that the B Leigh mentioned could well be Bernie Leigh. Some details on him can be found at =

http://grasstrackgb.co.uk/bernie-leigh/

Edited February 23, 2017 by Guest

[iris123]

It would appear that there was an extensive debate on Barry Lee's involvement with speedway as far back as 2006. And, by the look of things, that was inconclusive as well.

Wimbledon's Other World Champ

::: I notice in the previous LINK that a mention is made of a B Leigh at Wimbledon in the late 1960s where it is speculated if that might be Barry Lee.

My view is that might well not be the case and that the B Leigh mentioned could well be Bernie Leigh. Some details on him can be found at =

http://grasstrackgb.co.uk/bernie-leigh/

How do you come up with that conclusion sputnik,when i clearly state it was a meeting in 1965 and bernie Leigh started speedway in 1969 according to the records?

More records on Bernie not Barry

 

http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/thread/1633/bernie-leigh

[Guest]

How do you come up with that conclusion sputnik,when i clearly state it was a meeting in 1965 and bernie Leigh started speedway in 1969 according to the records?

More records on Bernie not Barry

 

http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/thread/1633/bernie-leigh

 

You are extremely rude! What is the reason to describe me as sputnik?

OK - I made an error in regard to B Leigh. That's not the end of the world. You could have phrased your response as a direct answer to what a said rather than use it to call me names. I have had several PMs from other BSF members who have commented on this tendency by you. But you will never change!

Edited February 23, 2017 by Guest

[iris123]

 

 

OK - I made an error in regard to B Leigh.

If you read it again there is no mention of a "B.Leigh".You are making things up.I mention a Barry Leigh and a B.Lee.You are the one who has magically brought a B.Leigh into it to confuse things-yet again

 

To balance things up,i have also had pms and mails about your strange behaviour.Bombarding people with pms complaining about some sleight or another.Or how certain riders disliked your attitude..... .

Edited February 23, 2017 by iris123

[Guest]

Were There Two Riders Named Barry Lee?

 

Above is the title of this thread. But TBH after the day's activities on here I don't think I really care anymore.

[chunky]

Now, if we can get back to the subject, how about this? I think that this will probably prove conclusive with regard to the following :

 

1) That the West Ham Barry Lee (of the early 1960's) went on to a successful career in autocross and hot rods.

 

2) That there were TWO riders called Barry Lee.

 

3) The other Barry Lee (Canterbury and Rayleigh) was not a champion on four wheels.

 

The following quote is taken from Barry Lee's own website, and the full article can be viewed at http://www.barrylee.co.uk/history.aspx

 

"Born in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England, in 1944. At the age of 9 he began horse riding and won may rosettes for show jumping and gymkhana. In 1962 at the age of 18 he took up speedway riding, achieving good results until an accident at the West Ham speedway stadium in 1964. When recovered, Barry decided to give four wheels a try and, after buying a 105E Anglia, he entered the world of Autocross, racing in the Players No.6 for three years and won every year.

In 1967 Fords competition manager - Henry Taylor, and Bill Mead - Fords chief engineer, took the talented young Lee to their headquarters at Boreham in Essex and signed him up in a new project. His mission was to prepare and race a brand new car, code named J25, in the first ever-televised race at Croft Autodrome. The car was the Mk1 Escort Twin Cam.

In 1968 the planned route for the International Rally was through Wales, but due to an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease the stage could not be run. A substitute for this section involved setting a track over various types of surface: mud, wet chalk, gravel, etc. Rallycross was born and Barry entered the fray, eventually winning the British championship. Although Barry was doing very well in the world of Rallycross, around 1971 he decided to enter Hot-Rod racing as well. In his first year he won the British National, South African, Northern Transvaal and Danish championships."

 

Steve

[Guest]

Barry Lee will be at Wimbledon Stadium, Sunday, March 5, 2017:

Stock car LegendsLike Page

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Good Evening Everyone well the stock car legends team are off on our travels this weekend as we head for London and Wimbledon stadium.
We are delighted to announce that Hot Rod Legend Barry Lee has confirmed he will be in attendance to be inducted into the stock car Hall of Fame on Sunday 5th March along with members of the late Mick (Duffy) Collard's Family who will receive The Eternal Flame Award (Forever Remembered)
In memory of this racing legend.
Also The Save Wimbledon stadium team will be there to receive The Unsung Hero award for the tireless work they have done & are still doing
Peter Gray
Michael Burnage
Dave Baldwin
Another member of the team Graham Brown will also receive the unsung Hero award not just for his part in saving Wimbledon but more so for the very hard work over the years Graham has done for Hot Rod Racing and the many hot rod world finals he was involved in the legends team thought an award for this Gentleman was long overdue.
And of course further unsung Hero awards will be made to long time Wimbledon employees
Mick Egan
Dave Fairway
For the services they have given to the stadium.
The Stock Car Legends Team do recognise there are other employees who have given great service to Wimbledon but we are on a very limited Budget as we pay for the trophies out of our own pockets and do hope you will be understanding.
George Polley will be presented with his hall of fame trophy on 12th March as he is unable to attend this Sunday.
So that's it folks the legends team would like to give our sincere thanks to
Dean Cox
Spedeworth
Jill Leeds Concept
Freddie Lee
Deane Wood
Rob Collard