Rayleigh Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Thank you for all under estimating Rye House, it means the bookies will now give me better odds. Harris/Nicholls/Kennett very very reliable, maybe not as sexy on the world stage but have always delivered on the English stage. Watt (did you not see the Winter results from Aussie) and Robson - more than a match in the engine room for any other second string pairing. Branford - maybe in the top three of reserves and with such a solid top 5 is unlikely to reach the main team all season unlike Allen, Bates or Klient/Newman Perks - anything is a bonus although there are some comparable No7s in the league, disappointed he is riding all 3 leagues, just too much at this stage of his carear 1st - Wolves 2nd - Rye House 3rd - Poole 4th - Belle Vue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 If Branford ends up as one of the top three reserves then I'm a monkey's uncle. That said good luck to the lad #backthebrits 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 BELLE VUE ** 1-3 Cook, Fricke, S Worrall 4-5 Sedgeman, ? 6-7 Bewley, Smith Going on this being something like what is being talked about, they have a good top two with two good back up riders. Both reserves are exciting 17 year olds who have big potential and if the last signing can hold down a second string position they should be near the top again. PLAY-OFFS -- Yes COVENTRY 1-3 King, K Bjerre, Garrity 4-5 L Bjerre, L Kerr Res. Bates, Sarjeant. Kenneth Bjerre is a bargain and Bates should improve but this looks one of the weakest teams and surprised they didn't bring Woryna back. Bleak and cold off season will be followed damp summer with a few light signs of sun. PLAY-OFFS -- No KINGS LYNN 1-3 Holder, Lambert, Batchelor 4-5. Porsing, Rose Res. Huckenbeck, Bailey Possibly the strongest top three if on form but look to be too reliant on that trio and should struggle away. PLAY-OFFS - Not this time LEICESTER 1-3. Nilsson, Wolbert, Lebedevs 4-5. Gomolski, Auty Res. E Riss, Ayres Having a strong reserve won't save them from a poor season ahead but there should be some entertainment if Lebedevs and Gomolski show their true form. PLAY OFFS -- No way POOLE PIRATES 1-3. Kaspazak, Andersen, B Kurtz 4-5. J Holder, Newman Res.. Klindt, Shanes. Year after year you can put Poole down as favourites and this is a solid line up all the way down and will always have a great reserve. PLAY OFFS -- YES RYE HOUSE 1-3. Kennett, Harris, Nicholls 4-5. Watt, Robson Res. Branford, Perks Very strong top five and a great potential reserve. Long with Poole they look contenders from the start. PLAY OFFS -- YES SOMERSET 1-3. Tungate, Grajczonek, Hougaard 4-5. Wright, Starke Res. Allen, Gravesen Looks weak and no real fire power but it's a solid line up which could suprise a few but not enough to challenge. PLAY OFFS -- No SWINDON 1-3. Doyle, Morris, Ellis 4-5. Bellego, BWD Res. Grondal, Wajtneck Having one of the best riders in the world in Doyle won't make them contenders as they look to have little back up. PLAY OFFS -- No WOLVERHAMPTON 1-3. Lindgren, Masters, Thorssell 4-5. Howarth, Skornicki Res. Clegg, Greaves Defending Champions who have recalled five of last years team despite the lowering of the limit. In effect they have replaced Woffinden and Karlsson for Skornicki and Greaves and both will be key figures to their fortunes. Great top three. PLAY OFFS -- Yes Belle Vue, Poole, Rye House and Wolves look the best four with Kings Lynn the main threat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) If Branford ends up as one of the top three reserves then I'm a monkey's uncle. That said good luck to the lad #backthebrits Id say he may squeeze into the top 10.no way hecwill outscore the likes of Klindt bates huckenbeck Allen Sargent etc. Edited February 23, 2017 by waihekeaces1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 1st - Wolves Skornicki hasn't ridden a bike on shale for how long? Did you see how good Masters, Thorsell, Howarth & Clegg were away from Monmore in the playoffs? They don't have Woffinden, Kylmakorpi or PK to turn to when things are going wrong. Just some bloke who was at best a reasonable third heat leader 3 years ago, who hasn't ridden a bike in 3 years. Unless Lindgren develop a team ethic and personality. Fear not Howe is looking to return to speedway. All hail the saviour eh Steve? Edited February 23, 2017 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Harris/Nicholls/Kennett very very reliable. Watt (did you not see the Winter results from Aussie) In response to your first comment, all 3 blow hot and cold - when they are good they can be unbeatable but reliable they are not. What someone does in Aus doesn't often translate to Europe - look at Brady Kurtz last year. Having said that Rye House will comfortably make the play-offs with the team they have assembled (barring injuries). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Poole King's Lynn Rye House Wolves Swindon Coventry Somerset Belle Vue Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Skornicki hasn't ridden a bike on shale for how long? Did you see how good Masters, Thorsell, Howarth & Clegg were away from Monmore in the playoffs? They don't have Woffinden, Kylmakorpi or PK to turn to when things are going wrong. Just some bloke who was at best a reasonable third heat leader 3 years ago, who hasn't ridden a bike in 3 years. Unless Lindgren develop a team ethic and personality. Fear not Howe is looking to return to speedway. All hail the saviour eh Steve? Definate play off contenders in my opinion. Thorsell and Masters were ok at Poole in the play offs both scored similar to Tai i believe and P.K was poor at Poole. Don't think Howe will be an option he has to prove himself first. Skornicki will be fine i don't see him not riding for a while to be a problem, if he had any doubts he would not ride. Edited February 23, 2017 by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Skornicki hasn't ridden a bike on shale for how long? Did you see how good Masters, Thorsell, Howarth & Clegg were away from Monmore in the playoffs? They don't have Woffinden, Kylmakorpi or PK to turn to when things are going wrong. Just some bloke who was at best a reasonable third heat leader 3 years ago, who hasn't ridden a bike in 3 years. Unless Lindgren develop a team ethic and personality. Fear not Howe is looking to return to speedway. All hail the saviour eh Steve? Shown up by your usual hatred of all things wolves again eh Col? You do know that Thorssell top scored at Poole in the semi?? Very poor eh Col? Which is your prediction for Wolves again Col? The one you said we were useless or the latest one that has us in the top 4?? Hard to keep up as you change your mind so often. Why is Howe the saviour??? A top 4 side Col, or one when you question another poster for having them in your top 4?? Waiting with baited breath for the next change of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Rye House Kings Lynn Poole Windon Wolves Belle Vue Coventry Somerset Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Id say he may squeeze into the top 10.no way hecwill outscore the likes of Klindt bates huckenbeck Allen Sargent etc. Outscored Klindt and Sarjent in the PL last year just didn't attain a real average, id rather Branford than most at least you know he will try no matter what conditions etc same cant be said for Klindt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Outscored Klindt and Sarjent in the PL last year just didn't attain a real average, id rather Branford than most at least you know he will try no matter what conditions etc same cant be said for Klindt Wasn't Branford in the easier reserve races last year whilst Sarjeant & Klindt were in the top 5? Branford will try hard but I don't think he will be anywhere near the top 3 reserves in the league. He wasn't when he rode for Swindon. Branford - maybe in the top three of reserves and with such a solid top 5 is unlikely to reach the main team all season unlike Allen, Bates or Klient/Newman Really? I personally would say that Klindt/Newman, Bates/Kerr, Huckenbeck, Sarjeant and possibly Ayres & Clegg are all better in the top league. The 5 listed first are all capable of performing in the top 5 in both EL & PL. Branford is a long way off being in the EL top 5 and still rides at reserve In the PL rather than the main body. I can't see reserves like Branford, Shanes, Zach coming out against riders like Doyle, King, Masters or even second strings like Gomolski or Starke and beating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I loathe the fact I think Poole & Wolves will make the play-offs >8 Play-offs - Kings Lynn, Poole, Wolves. A top 4 side Col, or one when you question another poster for having them in your top 4?? Waiting with baited breath for the next change of mind. What change of mind is that then? You do know that Thorssell top scored at Poole in the semi?? Threw cheap points away, after gating well by going too wide on bends 1 & 2. Probably outscored the riders who did the heat leader slots and Wolves reserves who were tragic, two reserves Wolves have retained. Expecting one to be a reasonable second string and the other to be their main man at reserve :D With that septet Wolves will make the play-offs I'm sure, but Wolves won't win the play-offs, they won't even make the final IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) If Branford ends up as one of the top three reserves then I'm a monkey's uncle. That said good luck to the lad #backthebrits Id back Riss, Klindt, Sarjeant, Bates, Huckenbeck and Allen ahead of him. People are saying Sarjeant is a crap signing but he's younger, has about 3 seasons less senior (EL and PL) experience and even if his worst PL season has averages more than Branford has ever manged. Really not getting the hype. Outscored Klindt and Sarjent in the PL last year just didn't attain a real average, id rather Branford than most at least you know he will try no matter what conditions etc same cant be said for KlindtExcept he didn't outscore Sarjeant at all. He average 0.1 less and that was riding in reserve vs riding at number 2. Edited February 24, 2017 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Branford will be in the Rye House top 5 by the first averages and will finish the season as the top rider in that other league. Buxton to go undefeated in the NL. Chopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 COVENTRY 1-3 King, K Bjerre, Garrity 4-5 L Bjerre, L Kerr Res. Bates, Sarjeant Decent top two with King and K. Bjerre, L. Bjerre can add some points but depends on how he improves from a bad season. Bates is a good reserve but for me the last three are budget signings and don't add much. Play offs - No KINGS LYNN 1-3 Holder, Lambert, Batchelor 4-5. Porsing, Rose Res. Huckenbeck, Bailey Holder and Lambert are a brilliant pairing and this is the season for Batchelor to get back on form. Posting and Rose aren't the best second strings but will add decent back up. Hucknbeck is a bargain at reserve and Bailey has more to offer than his average. Play offs - Yes LEICESTER 1-3. Nilsson, Wolbert, Lebedevs 4-5. Gomolski, Auty Res. E Riss, Ayres Nilson is a decent no.1 and Lebedevs almost certain to go on to be a heat leader. However I can't see any real strength throughout the team. Play offs - No POOLE PIRATES 1-3. Kaspazak, Andersen, B Kurtz 4-5. J Holder, Newman Res.. Klindt, Shanes Best top two in the league however Andersen isn't as good as he once was. Strength throughout but don't think Poole are that much better than any other team. Play offs - Yes RYE HOUSE 1-3. Kennett, Harris, Nicholls 4-5. Watt, Robson Res. Branford, Perks I would say the best top three in the league and Branford is in for a big season. However I just don't think they have enough strength in the rest of the team. Play offs - No SOMERSET 1-3. Tungate, Grajczonek, Hougaard 4-5. Wright, Starke Res. Allen, Gravesen Come in for a lot of criticism but is a team that an do very well at home. Allen is capable of scoring heavily and Graversen just has to score his average. Wright and Stark can score decent second string points. Top three is a problem but only takes Hougaard to improve and not as bad as everyone thinks. Play offs - No SWINDON 1-3. Doyle, Morris, Ellis 4-5. Bellego, BWD Res. Grondal, wajtknecht Doyle is without doubt the best rider in the league and I believe can become world champion. The rest of the side though looks very weak and one high scoring rider won't win meetings play offs - No WOLVERHAMPTON 1-3. Lindgren, Masters, Thorssell 4-5. Howarth, Skornicki Res. Clegg, Greaves Decent top 5 and definitely looks the best top 5. I don't think much of the reserves, I don't think Greaves is ready and away from home I don't think Clegg brings in the points. Still strong enough top 5 for play offs. Play offs - Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred5 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 For me its Poole and Wolves, for the top two, with BV and KL not far away. Also think the Rebels could well be in the mix, must not underestimate Gary May, he`s a winner and will make changes as and when required. Am looking forward to visiting the OTA this year, have heard its a great racing track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Ward Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Had predicted kl, Poole, wolves and rye house in that order but after hearing what belle vues team is likely to be they will def take rye house's place in the top four imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 You know, the more I look at Rye House, the more I think they'll at least make the play-offs... Won't light any fires, but will be rock solid at home, and could win some vital points away, especially at the smaller tracks.... Play-off Final candidates.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Poole Belle Vue A.N.Other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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