BL65 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) The following were all lined up to turn out for which team in 1960? Pat Flanagan, Danny Dunton, Jim Tebby, Roy Bowers, Ernie Baker, Ron How, Ken Mellor. Edited February 19, 2017 by BL65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 You got me on this one BL55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 You got me on this one BL55 Two clues. The first two matches were lost 11-1 and 9-0. The editor of Speedway Star was introduced as a substitute halfway through the first match, having already taken part in another match earlier in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Two clues. The first two matches were lost 11-1 and 9-0. The editor of Speedway Star was introduced as a substitute halfway through the first match, having already taken part in another match earlier in the day. Speedway XI football team? My mums uncle Viv Harwood was closely involved with them i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Speedway XI football team? My mums uncle Viv Harwood was closely involved with them i believe Spot on. For several years the team played during the winter, raising money for charity. Viv Harwood was indeed a regular member of the side. The 1960 team rapidly improved and narrowly lost 6-4 in the final match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 http://bobandrewsspeedway.tripod.com/bobandrewswim61febmar.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Great post -wot a laff-don't suppose Errol Brook played -or did he?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Great post -wot a laff-don't suppose Errol Brook played -or did he?? He was hailed as the new Stanley Matthews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Great post -wot a laff-don't suppose Errol Brook played -or did he?? He was hailed as the new Stanley Matthews. I fail to see why Errol Brook should have been mentioned at all in this thread other than perhaps for a pee-take! He was never at anytime so far as I know involved in anyway with the side. I doubt if Errol Brook even knew much - or cared - about the doings of the Speedway Xl. The Speedway X1 was mainly compromised of riders living in the London and surrounding areas with much of its management done by Reg Trott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I fail to see why Errol Brook should have been mentioned at all in this thread other than perhaps for a pee-take! He was never at anytime so far as I know involved in anyway with the side. I doubt if Errol Brook even knew much - or cared - about the doings of the Speedway Xl. The Speedway X1 was mainly compromised of riders living in the London and surrounding areas with much of its management done by Reg Trott. The Speedway XI was active for many years, sometimes with matches against Showbiz personalities. From reports it seems that a good time was had by all, although the games were still taken seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertsRacer Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I fail to see why Errol Brook should have been mentioned at all in this thread other than perhaps for a pee-take! He was never at anytime so far as I know involved in anyway with the side. I doubt if Errol Brook even knew much - or cared - about the doings of the Speedway Xl. The Speedway X1 was mainly compromised of riders living in the London and surrounding areas with much of its management done by Reg Trott. All I will say is that whoever played they proved they were much better on a bike than kicking a football around. In fairness it would be interesting to know how the likes of Matthews, Finney and Wright would have got on against them on the track. Not very well I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I fail to see why Errol Brook should have been mentioned at all in this thread other than perhaps for a pee-take! He was never at anytime so far as I know involved in anyway with the side. I doubt if Errol Brook even knew much - or cared - about the doings of the Speedway Xl. The Speedway X1 was mainly compromised of riders living in the London and surrounding areas with much of its management done by Reg Trott. The Speedway XI was active for many years, sometimes with matches against Showbiz personalities. From reports it seems that a good time was had by all, although the games were still taken seriously. Are you BL65 attempting to justify the mentions for Errol Brook in this thread in the context that he was a showbiz personality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Are you BL65 attempting to justify the mentions for Errol Brook in this thread in the context that he was a showbiz personality? My previous post was about the speedway heroes who took to the football pitch. The riders were aided by other speedway figures on occasions of course, The report on the game against Paramount Sports, which took place on Sunday, 31st January 1960 at Raynes Park, recorded that a large contingent of New Cross and Wimbledon supporters were in attendance. It was also noted that the Speedway XI brought on substitutes Jim Lawlor and John Hyam for the second half, even though both had already played a match earlier in the day. All I will say is that whoever played they proved they were much better on a bike than kicking a football around. In fairness it would be interesting to know how the likes of Matthews, Finney and Wright would have got on against them on the track. Not very well I suspect. The former West Ham footballer Harry Kinsell once told me that he and his team mates were regular spectators at Custom House in the early1950s and although a few of the more daring players were tempted to have a go none were brave enough. The football club would no doubt have taken a very dim view if they had. I recall that Barry Briggs was good friends with David Webb, the former Southampton and Chelsea footballer. I wonder if David ever had a go on the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) My previous post was about the speedway heroes who took to the football pitch. The riders were aided by other speedway figures on occasions of course, The report on the game against Paramount Sports, which took place on Sunday, 31st January 1960 at Raynes Park, recorded that a large contingent of New Cross and Wimbledon supporters were in attendance. It was also noted that the Speedway XI brought on substitutes Jim Lawlor and John Hyam for the second half, even though both had already played a match earlier in the day. I have a vague recollection of being a participant in this match with the outstanding memory chatting throughout the second-half with team-mate Bert # Name Removed # about Southampton's hopes for the forthcoming speedway season. ::::: I apologise that the surname of the then Southampton team manager has been edited out by the forum. A clue is that he was a leading rider and team manager for the Saints following their return to speedway in 1947, most certainly he was one of the great names associated with the track in post-war seasons. Edited February 20, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I have a vague recollection of being a participant in this match with the outstanding memory chatting throughout the second-half with team-mate Bert # Name Removed # about Southampton's hopes for the forthcoming speedway season. ::::: I apologise that the surname of the then Southampton team manager has been edited out by the forum. A clue is that he was a leading rider and team manager for the Saints following their return to speedway in 1947, most certainly he was one of the great names associated with the track in post-war seasons. We will just have to refer to him as Bert Crou cher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I once promoted a match between the Speedway Riders X1 and a Doug Insole Select. From memory it was at Wanstead Flats but I could be wrong. If I remember correctly the riders played with 12 men in the second half but still lost...10-0 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Sorry gustix my mention of Errol Brook in the post about the Speedway X1 was indeed a pee-take. As you may know I have a bizarre sense of humour (among my many other bizarre traits)- no offence meant. Shout out to Norbold though-who evidently saw the funny side of my comment. I promise to be more serious in the future (well-maybe!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I have a vague recollection of being a participant in this match with the outstanding memory chatting throughout the second-half with team-mate Bert # Name Removed # about Southampton's hopes for the forthcoming speedway season. ::::: I apologise that the surname of the then Southampton team manager has been edited out by the forum. A clue is that he was a leading rider and team manager for the Saints following their return to speedway in 1947, most certainly he was one of the great names associated with the track in post-war seasons. We will just have to refer to him as Bert Crou cher I think that I know the reason why there is a ban on the surname Crou cher but it is not actually directed at Bert but by other Poster with that surname who as I recall caused the BSF multi-problems some years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Re previous notes and for Norbold-before we finally finish with this you wouldn't happen to know how tall Errol Brook was would you?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I think that I know the reason why there is a ban on the surname Crou cher but it is not actually directed at Bert but by other Poster with that surname who as I recall caused the BSF multi-problems some years ago? I think it was a certain Dave of that surname who had problems with the law and because of that it wasn't allowed to mention his name here.Not sure he was ever a member of this forum though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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