Jonny the spud Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Having re-discovered the UK scene again around 5 years ago after many years of riding and spectating in Europe, one of the main differences I've noticed is that English commentators stop talking the second the tapes drop . Is this normal at every track ? I've been inside several stadium bars where it's like a morgue once the race starts and I do feel that running commentary as in Europe (although not to the hysterical shouty brothers on sky) might be a good thing? With only 4 riders and 4 laps it shouldn't be too taxing on a centre green announcer / commentator to manage … Thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Having re-discovered the UK scene again around 5 years ago after many years of riding and spectating in Europe, one of the main differences I've noticed is that English commentators stop talking the second the tapes drop . Is this normal at every track ? I've been inside several stadium bars where it's like a morgue once the race starts and I do feel that running commentary as in Europe (although not to the hysterical shouty brothers on sky) might be a good thing? With only 4 riders and 4 laps it shouldn't be too taxing on a centre green announcer / commentator to manage … Thoughts ? I cant say i've been to a meeting in my entire speedway watching life and heard any kind of running commentary apart from a token one by Dave Lanning on the last night at Smallmead. On my rare trips to grasstrack meetings there have been some, but it didnt really add anything for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I am eager to see a well done, knowledgeable "talk through " of the heat just run ( fortified with correct info from team managers, riders or mechanics ) about what actually happened. One of the downsides of the live match in the stadium experience is the yawning empty "silent" gap between races ( can be 10 mins). I don't want some pop / rock music chosen by someone else blasting out. I prefer some more speedway content in the form of a talk through re-living the previous heat. Costs prevent us seeing it on a big screen but the post race commentary and comment would retain the interest and build up to what the next one would bring the supporter. NOT I must add some banal comments from someone who is not very aware of speedway and it's terms! This need cost very little and when well done could add further ( much needed ) content to the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I cant say i've been to a meeting in my entire speedway watching life and heard any kind of running commentary apart from a token one by Dave Lanning on the last night at Smallmead. On my rare trips to grasstrack meetings there have been some, but it didnt really add anything for me. Never experienced it personally but I seem to recall that Dave Lanning used to do a running commentary at Wimbledon when son Russell was in charge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 How much commentary does four blokes going round in circles really need? Personally, I think there is too much commentary when speedway is on TV, let alone live at a meeting. I'd like to see a track play music during the heats to see if that can add some atmosphere, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 How much commentary does four blokes going round in circles really need? Personally, I think there is too much commentary when speedway is on TV, let alone live at a meeting. I'd like to see a track play music during the heats to see if that can add some atmosphere, I agree. I have many, many DVDs and the standard of commentary varies considerably depending on the source. I don't require anyone telling me what I can already see jabbering away continuously (Colin Martin take a bow!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 We just don't do race commentary in the UK, I thought I enjoyed it but it's only good if the action is good, if not it's rather repetitive, like the racing basically. In Darcy's meeting from Australia they had a sponsor (100%) which they mentioned most laps, that wasn't the best to listen to but I know why they did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) So the noise level of any commentary - or music for that matter - would need to be greater than the noise generated by the bikes. That would surely go down well with any track 'neighbours'?! Can't those fans in the stadium actually see what is happening? Commentators can often get it wrong despite them watching exactly the same action as the fans - you only have to watch some of the recordings - dvds etc!! Edited February 16, 2017 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 There's nothing worse than someone telling me what I'm watching live at a stadium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 There's nothing worse than someone telling me what I'm watching live at a stadium There is, if that someone is Peter York Mind you, it's debatable whether what you are watching coincides with what he says Incidentally, will the dreadful Mr Y be at Beaumont Bees? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Thumb Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) You can just about hear the the PA at Foxhall normally, with bikes on track you'd stand no chance of hearing anything! Edited February 16, 2017 by Tom Thumb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Running commentary is necessary on grasstracks as the number of riders involved and no requirement to identify themselves other than a riding number make it trickier to distinguish between riders especially for those less familiar with the sport. With speedway you have helmet colours plus suits/bibs to distinguish plus obviously only 4 riders to deal with. There is also the issue of whether a commentator would influence the referee and we all know decisions are tough enough to get right as it is (or most ref's seem to make hard work of it). However if the commentary was streamed via headphones / smartphones etc it could offer the choice to those who want it without enforcing it on all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coventry1963 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 More often than not the commentator is on the centre green and can probably see less than the spectators! Very often the fan is watching a battle for a minor place as much as seeing a rider clear in front as the focus. Whenever I have heard commentary it has been of the "here comes X onto the final lap" ilk - not very inspiring when most fans can count to four! Describing how a rider is setting up for an overtake, or blocking same, is not an easy thing to commentate on in the few seconds concerned. However, informed commentary after the race, describing the efforts made, might be helpful for the fans who may not have the knowledge to appreciate all that has gone on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 As Midland Red has said, the only person that does the race talking, usually third entering into the 4th bend, is Peter York. He obviously does it at Coventry, but I recall he used to do it also at Reading. It is only of some use if it is audible, but that is almost impossible when the bikes are passing in front of you. I think it can be useful to build it up, but it has to be done in the right way, right volume and by someone without a home bias of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 As Midland Red has said, the only person that does the race talking, usually third entering into the 4th bend, is Peter York. He obviously does it at Coventry, but I recall he used to do it also at Reading. It is only of some use if it is audible, but that is almost impossible when the bikes are passing in front of you. I think it can be useful to build it up, but it has to be done in the right way, right volume and by someone without a home bias of course. Clubs could sell the fans those mini radio earpieces like you get at cricket/snooker, and one or two years, Cardiff GP had them.. Still got the earpiece, not much use after the event though, but could be built/set up/powered to last a full season without battery changes.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 There's nothing worse than someone telling me what I'm watching live at a stadium Agree ~ I can't stand it. Peter York used to really irritate me commenting on the race for the last two laps ~ sometimes before if something he thought was interesting was happening. He stopped ~ or was probably stopped by the Coventry promoters thank goodness ~ 2 or 3 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) They used to have race commentary at Claremont in Perth and I.must admit it was good and added a lot to the night...Wade Auger did it and it added a lot to the meeting...good weather..great track and lots of beer sold..it all added up to a good night.....and you had to remember a lot of the crowd were not die hards like here..they wanted the commentary to add to the atmosphere...and all riders had their own name...The Master of Going Faster etc....not sure it would work as well over here though?...and I've never seen it actually done. Edited February 16, 2017 by Bruiser McHuge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Clubs could sell the fans those mini radio earpieces like you get at cricket/snooker, and one or two years, Cardiff GP had them.. Still got the earpiece, not much use after the event though, but could be built/set up/powered to last a full season without battery changes.. Same here, but I was thinking of putting it on eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 As Midland Red has said, the only person that does the race talking, usually third entering into the 4th bend, is Peter York. He obviously does it at Coventry, but I recall he used to do it also at Reading. It is only of some use if it is audible, but that is almost impossible when the bikes are passing in front of you. I think it can be useful to build it up, but it has to be done in the right way, right volume and by someone without a home bias of course. Porkie does it at Wolverhampton also, from the final bend to the line. I quite like it. Not sure about the whole race. Commentary on dvd's etc can either make a big difference to the race. I have a classic race between Ryan Sullivan and Mikael Karlsson at Peterbrough on dvd, two different versions. In one the commentary adds to it and makes it even more thrilling, on the other the commentary makes you fall asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Was that the bonus point run off in 1996 by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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